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Another Trade Idea I Would Love

Created by: BallPuckFellow10
Team: 2021-22 Toronto Maple Leafs
Initial Creation Date: Aug. 23, 2021
Published: Aug. 23, 2021
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Let me know in the comments what you think. Let's have a constructive discussion rather than being mean to each other.
Free Agent Signings
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Ekholm, Mattias
1$937,500
Trades
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    Mattias Ekholm 75% retained. Nashville retains 50% for a 1st, 2nd and Dermott, and 3rd party team retains 25% for a 4th.

    Similar structure to the Savard deal last deadline where Columbus got a 1st and 3rd from Tampa and Detroit a 4th for the retention as a third party.

    Ekholm is better than Savard which is why Nashville would get a better return. Ekholm could potentially be extended and be a Rielly replacement next season if he takes something in the $5M-$6M range.

    2022-2023 the Leafs blue line could look like this:

    Ekholm-Brodie
    Muzzin-Holl
    Sandin-Liljegren
    NSH
    1. Dermott, Travis
    2. 2022 1st round pick (TOR)
    3. 2023 2nd round pick (TOR)
    4. 2023 4th round pick (TOR)
    Additional Details:
    Dermott could either be kept or flipped for more picks if NSH goes full rebuild mode. I think this fair value. 1st and 2nd plus a roster player that could be flipped for a 3rd IMO.
    Nashville's net value from this trade could potentially be a 1st, 2nd and a 3rd for someone that likely walks in FA.

    4th round pick goes to 3rd party team for salary retention.
    Retained Salary Transactions
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    2023
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    2024
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    ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES TooltipBONUSESCAP SPACE
    22$81,500,000$81,392,283$0$400,000$107,717

    Roster

    Left WingCentreRight Wing
    Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
    $2,500,000$2,500,000
    LW
    UFA - 2
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    $11,640,250$11,640,250
    C
    UFA - 3
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    $6,962,366$6,962,366
    RW
    UFA - 3
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    $796,667$796,667
    LW, RW
    RFA - 3
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    $11,000,000$11,000,000
    C, LW
    NMC
    UFA - 4
    Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
    $10,903,000$10,903,000
    RW
    UFA - 4
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    $950,000$950,000
    LW
    UFA - 2
    Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
    $3,500,000$3,500,000
    LW, C, RW
    UFA - 2
    Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
    $1,250,000$1,250,000
    RW
    UFA - 1
    Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
    $1,645,000$1,645,000
    LW, RW
    UFA - 1
    Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
    $1,500,000$1,500,000
    C
    UFA - 2
    Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
    $750,000$750,000
    C, RW
    UFA - 1
    Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
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    $5,000,000$5,000,000
    LD
    NMC
    UFA - 1
    Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
    $5,000,000$5,000,000
    LD/RD
    NTC
    UFA - 3
    Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
    $1,650,000$1,650,000
    G
    UFA - 1
    Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
    $5,625,000$5,625,000
    LD
    NTC
    UFA - 3
    Ekholm, Mattias
    $937,500$937,500
    Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
    $3,800,000$3,800,000
    G
    M-NTC
    UFA - 3
    Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
    $894,167$894,167
    LD
    UFA - 1
    Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
    $2,000,000$2,000,000
    RD
    M-NTC
    UFA - 2
    ScratchesInjured Reserve (IR)Long Term IR (LTIR)
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    $900,000$900,000
    RW, LW
    NTC
    UFA - 2
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    $863,333$863,333 (Performance Bonus$400,000$400K)
    RD
    RFA - 1

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    Aug. 23, 2021 at 8:36 p.m.
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    Watch him just leave in UFA though
    Aug. 23, 2021 at 8:38 p.m.
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    Only way if there's a extension and I don't think Ekholm would stay
    Aug. 23, 2021 at 8:38 p.m.
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    You can't have a player retention over 50%, right?
    Aug. 23, 2021 at 8:39 p.m.
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    Quoting: Juiceman
    Watch him just leave in UFA though


    Obviously a risk you take when trading for him. Hopefully he likes the City and the project the Leafs present him. Being a top 4 defenseman on a Championship contender surely has to be something that Ekholm would like. Hopefully his family would like Toronto as well. I think this could be a very smart move by Dubas.
    Aug. 23, 2021 at 8:40 p.m.
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    Quoting: BallPuckFellow10
    Obviously a risk you take when trading for him. Hopefully he likes the City and the project the Leafs present him. Being a top 4 defenseman on a Championship contender surely has to be something that Ekholm would like. Hopefully his family would like Toronto as well. I think this could be a very smart move by Dubas.


    The only way he’d want to stay is if the leafs can win a round. If they can’t even pass round 1 again this year, you cannot say they are a championship contender.
    Aug. 23, 2021 at 8:42 p.m.
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    Quoting: tryger
    You can't have a player retention over 50%, right?


    Nashville retains 50% ($1.875M)
    third party retains 50% of the remaining $1.875M which would equal $937,500. That is = 25% of $3.75M his full cap hit.
    Thus Ekholm at 75% retained is possible if three teams are involved. Tampa Bay, Columbus and Detroit did such a deal last year.
    Aug. 23, 2021 at 8:44 p.m.
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    Quoting: DroverD2
    Only way if there's a extension and I don't think Ekholm would stay


    Quoting: Juiceman
    The only way he’d want to stay is if the leafs can win a round. If they can’t even pass round 1 again this year, you cannot say they are a championship contender.


    Their roster is absolutely a championship contender, you can't deny that. He would be the guy that takes them past that 1st round hopefully. As for the season after, lots of moves could happen. But the Leafs would likely be a contender again. Not unrealistic at all to see him resign in Toronto.
    Aug. 23, 2021 at 8:46 p.m.
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    Quoting: BallPuckFellow10
    Their roster is absolutely a championship contender, you can't deny that. He would be the guy that takes them past that 1st round hopefully. As for the season after, lots of moves could happen. But the Leafs would likely be a contender again. Not unrealistic at all to see him resign in Toronto.


    1 guy does not take you past a round. Their roster is not built for the championships. After the core 4, the depth is pretty saddening to be honest. It’s cause the core 4 takes up all the cap and leaves no cap for other improvements. Of course they are gonna play well still and make the playoffs but if you look at true contenders, they have depth throughout their lineup.
    Aug. 23, 2021 at 8:47 p.m.
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    Quoting: BallPuckFellow10
    Nashville retains 50% ($1.875M)
    third party retains 50% of the remaining $1.875M which would equal $937,500. That is = 25% of $3.75M his full cap hit.
    Thus Ekholm at 75% retained is possible if three teams are involved. Tampa Bay, Columbus and Detroit did such a deal last year.


    Even with multiple teams, I believe 50% is the maximum amount a salary can be retained. I believe on that trade Savard was 50%

    https://puckpedia.com/salary-cap/retained-salary
    "The maximum retention % is 50%."
    Aug. 23, 2021 at 8:48 p.m.
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    Quoting: Juiceman
    1 guy does not take you past a round. Their roster is not built for the championships. After the core 4, the depth is pretty saddening to be honest. It’s cause the core 4 takes up all the cap and leaves no cap for other improvements. Of course they are gonna play well still and make the playoffs but if you look at true contenders, they have depth throughout their lineup.


    I completely disagree with you. The Leafs have done an excellent job in adding depth pieces around the core 4. Ritchie, Kase, Bunting and Kämpf are all guys that will contribute in different ways. Robertson could have a calder type of season playing next to Tavares and Marner. Our defense with Rielly, Brodie, Muzzin, Ekholm, Holl and Sandin would be stacked. Our goalies are good as well in Campbell and Mrazek. I think you underestimate this roster greatly.
    Aug. 23, 2021 at 8:56 p.m.
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    Quoting: tryger
    Even with multiple teams, I believe 50% is the maximum amount a salary can be retained. I believe on that trade Savard was 50%

    https://puckpedia.com/salary-cap/retained-salary
    "The maximum retention % is 50%."


    A team can only retain 50% of the salary. however, the next team can retain salary on that contract as well. Last year Columbus retained 50% of Savard's $4.25M contract ($2.125M). Then Detroit retained 50% of the remaining $2.125M ($1,062,500). Tampa had him on their roster for a quarter of his cap hit, thus what I am suggesting is fully legal and would work.

    https://www.capfriendly.com/trades/players/david-savard
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    Aug. 23, 2021 at 9:00 p.m.
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    Don't think the Leafs just be giving up Dermot and three picks for a few months of Ekholm. Let's forgot this sign him next summer fantasy. Leafs have a one in thirty two chance of signing him as a UFA.
    Aug. 23, 2021 at 9:06 p.m.
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    If Ekholm doesn't want to re-sign in NSH, it's a fine offer. I think NSH would prefer the 4th, and let Dermott go to the 3rd team though.
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    Aug. 23, 2021 at 9:07 p.m.
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    Don't think the Leafs just be giving up Dermot and three picks for a few months of Ekholm. Let's forgot this sign him next summer fantasy. Leafs have a one in thirty two chance of signing him as a UFA.


    Why not act smart and replace Rielly with someone that already will be comfortable in the 2022 season when he resigns? Ekholm would already know all his teammates and have experience playing in Toronto and under the coaching staff. Ekholm at around $5M - $6M is way better value than Rielly north of $8M. I don't think it is unrealistic for him to resign at all if he was acquired during the season.
    Aug. 23, 2021 at 9:08 p.m.
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    Quoting: gmgb
    If Ekholm doesn't want to re-sign in NSH, it's a fine offer. I think NSH would prefer the 4th, and let Dermott go to the 3rd team though.


    Could absolutely be an option!
    Aug. 23, 2021 at 9:11 p.m.
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    Quoting: BallPuckFellow10
    Why not act smart and replace Rielly with someone that already will be comfortable in the 2022 season when he resigns? Ekholm would already know all his teammates and have experience playing in Toronto and under the coaching staff. Ekholm at around $5M - $6M is way better value than Rielly north of $8M. I don't think it is unrealistic for him to resign at all if he was acquired during the season.


    I think you already answered your question. While I'm sure the Leafs have no desire or capability of signing Reilly north of 8m, there seems to no way Ekholm signs for well under 7m
    Aug. 23, 2021 at 9:14 p.m.
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    Edited Aug. 23, 2021 at 9:25 p.m.
    Quoting: palhal
    I think you already answered your question. While I'm sure the Leafs have no desire or capability of signing Reilly north of 8m, there seems to no way Ekholm signs for well under 7m


    I disagree, I think he would sign in the Muzzin to Petry range if he got an extension. He won't get $7M + in the open market. Thats just my opinion.
    Aug. 23, 2021 at 9:23 p.m.
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    Quoting: Juiceman
    1 guy does not take you past a round. Their roster is not built for the championships. After the core 4, the depth is pretty saddening to be honest. It’s cause the core 4 takes up all the cap and leaves no cap for other improvements. Of course they are gonna play well still and make the playoffs but if you look at true contenders, they have depth throughout their lineup.


    After the core 4 is just question markets waiting to be answered. Like if Kase can stay healthy and stills core. Can bunting be anywhere close to productive as last year etc. Honestly Kase could be very important if he can stay off the ltir I feel like
    Aug. 23, 2021 at 9:23 p.m.
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    Quoting: tryger
    Even with multiple teams, I believe 50% is the maximum amount a salary can be retained. I believe on that trade Savard was 50%

    https://puckpedia.com/salary-cap/retained-salary
    "The maximum retention % is 50%."


    Maximum one team can retain is 50% of a contract.
    Another team inheriting that contract can retain 50% of the remaining value.
    Retention can not be applied to the same contract more than twice.
    No team may reacquire a player they have retained salary on until a calendar year has passed.

    So if team A retains 50% and team B retains 50% of the remainder, team C gets that player at 25% of their original salary.
    If team A retains 25% and team B retains 25% (of the original contract value), team C gets that player at 50% of their original salary and nobody can offer retention on that player for the remaining duration of their current contract.
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    Aug. 23, 2021 at 9:32 p.m.
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    Quoting: BallPuckFellow10
    A team can only retain 50% of the salary. however, the next team can retain salary on that contract as well. Last year Columbus retained 50% of Savard's $4.25M contract ($2.125M). Then Detroit retained 50% of the remaining $2.125M ($1,062,500). Tampa had him on their roster for a quarter of his cap hit, thus what I am suggesting is fully legal and would work.

    https://www.capfriendly.com/trades/players/david-savard


    Quoting: ricochetii
    Maximum one team can retain is 50% of a contract.
    Another team inheriting that contract can retain 50% of the remaining value.
    Retention can not be applied to the same contract more than twice.
    No team may reacquire a player they have retained salary on until a calendar year has passed.

    So if team A retains 50% and team B retains 50% of the remainder, team C gets that player at 25% of their original salary.
    If team A retains 25% and team B retains 25% (of the original contract value), team C gets that player at 50% of their original salary and nobody can offer retention on that player for the remaining duration of their current contract.


    Did not know this. Thanks dudes.
    Aug. 23, 2021 at 9:38 p.m.
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    Quoting: Juiceman
    The only way he’d want to stay is if the leafs can win a round. If they can’t even pass round 1 again this year, you cannot say they are a championship contender.


    Weak lazy chirps
    Aug. 23, 2021 at 9:56 p.m.
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    Quoting: BallPuckFellow10
    Nashville retains 50% ($1.875M)
    third party retains 50% of the remaining $1.875M which would equal $937,500. That is = 25% of $3.75M his full cap hit.
    Thus Ekholm at 75% retained is possible if three teams are involved. Tampa Bay, Columbus and Detroit did such a deal last year.


    I don’t think you can even do that
    Aug. 23, 2021 at 9:57 p.m.
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    Quoting: IconicHawk
    I don’t think you can even do that


    Yes you can, Columbus and Detroit literally just did it at the last trade deadline: https://www.capfriendly.com/trades/players/david-savard
    Aug. 23, 2021 at 9:58 p.m.
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    Quoting: BallPuckFellow10
    Yes you can, Columbus and Detroit literally just did it at the last trade deadline: https://www.capfriendly.com/trades/players/david-savard


    Oh right
    Aug. 23, 2021 at 10:00 p.m.
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    Quoting: BallPuckFellow10
    Yes you can, Columbus and Detroit literally just did it at the last trade deadline: https://www.capfriendly.com/trades/players/david-savard


    Well Nashville would probably demand you give them Sandin knowing their return wanted would be prospects and picks and not Dermott
     
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