Match on KK and 3 way trade

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Created by: HabsFan33

Team: 2021-22 Montreal Canadiens

Initial Creation Date: Aug. 30, 2021

Published: Aug. 30, 2021

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Could this work for all teams involved? I feel like just letting KK walk isn't the smart thing to do but if he truly wants out of MTL, maybe match the offer then swing a 3 way deal between Canes and Flames.

If more cap space is needed, maybe Drouin can be added to either of the trades - depending on which team between Canes and Flames values him more (or might need him more). I think the Flames would want to a winger to add to their top 6.

Trades

MTL

Bear, Ethan
Trocheck, Vincent
2022 1st round pick (CAR)
2022 3rd round pick (CAR)

CAR

Harris, Jordan [Reserve List]
Mysak, Jan

Additional Details:

MTL matches the offer sheet but after trades KK back to Canes for the 1st and 3rd round picks. Habs send two prospects to get Ethan Bear. Trocheck gets flips to Flames along with Carolina's picks for Monahan.

MTL

Monahan, Sean

Additional Details:

Habs send Trocheck, Hillis and three picks for Monahan.

CGY

Hillis, Cameron
Trocheck, Vincent
2022 1st round pick (CAR)
2022 3rd round pick (ANA)
2022 4th round pick (TBL)

Additional Details:

Flames could then send a prospect and Panthers 2nd round pick to Canes to complete the 3-way deal

Buyouts

Karl Alzner: $1,958,333

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2022
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2024

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ROSTER SIZE	SALARY CAP	CAP HIT	OVERAGES	BONUSES	CAP SPACE
23	$81,500,000	$68,412,977	$597,561	$1,475,000	$13,087,023

Left Wing	Centre	Right Wing
Hoffman, Mike $4,500,000$4,500,000 LW UFA - 3	Suzuki, Nick $863,333$863,333 ($537,500$538K) C UFA - 1	Caufield, Cole $880,833$880,833 ($300,000$300K) LW, RW UFA - 2
Drouin, Jonathan $5,500,000$5,500,000 LW, RW M-NTC UFA - 2	Monahan, Sean $6,375,000$6,375,000 C, LW, RW M-NTC UFA - 2	Anderson, Josh $5,500,000$5,500,000 RW, LW M-NTC UFA - 6
Toffoli, Tyler $2,125,000$2,125,000 RW, LW UFA - 3	Evans, Jake $750,000$750,000 C UFA - 1	Gallagher, Brendan $6,500,000$6,500,000 RW, LW M-NTC, NMC UFA - 6
Lehkonen, Artturi $1,150,000$1,150,000 LW, RW UFA - 1	Paquette, Cédric $950,000$950,000 C, LW, RW UFA - 1	Armia, Joel $3,400,000$3,400,000 RW, LW UFA - 4
Perreault, Mathieu $950,000$950,000 LW, RW, C UFA - 1

Left Defense	Right Defense	Goaltender
Edmundson, Joel $875,000$875,000 LD/RD M-NTC UFA - 3	Petry, Jeff $2,343,750$2,343,750 RD M-NTC, NMC UFA - 4	Price, Carey $10,500,000$10,500,000 G NMC UFA - 5
Romanov, Alexander $894,167$894,167 ($637,500$638K) LD RFA - 1	Savard, David $3,500,000$3,500,000 RD UFA - 4	Allen, Jake $2,875,000$2,875,000 G UFA - 2
Chiarot, Ben $1,750,000$1,750,000 LD/RD M-NTC UFA - 1	Bear, Ethan $2,000,000$2,000,000 RD UFA - 1
Kulak, Brett $925,000$925,000 LD/RD UFA - 1	Wideman, Chris $750,000$750,000 RD UFA - 1

Scratches	Injured Reserve (IR)	Long Term IR (LTIR)
		Weber, Shea $7,857,143$7,857,143 RD UFA - 5
		Byron, Paul $3,400,000$3,400,000 LW, RW UFA - 2

Aug. 30, 2021 at 4:50 p.m.

mastersp4

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Can't trade for 1yr after matche the OS

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Aug. 30, 2021 at 4:51 p.m.

McSchleep

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you cant match than trade him

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Aug. 30, 2021 at 4:51 p.m.

Gmonwy

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If we are trading Monahan in a 3 way if is most likely for Eichel not Trocheck

Aug. 30, 2021 at 4:51 p.m.

Gmonwy

GO FLAMES GO

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Quoting: Gmonwy

If we are trading Monahan in a 3 way if is most likely for Eichel not Trocheck

Also we are fine on top 6 wingers. Gaudreau Tkachuk Mangiapane and Coleman

Aug. 30, 2021 at 4:54 p.m.

coga16

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Quoting: McSchleep

you cant match than trade him

exactly, and cant trade him until this time next year. So hes going to have a nice new contract or a high 1 year QO once again by the time they can trade him.
KK has all the power now

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Aug. 30, 2021 at 4:54 p.m.

HabsFan33

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Quoting: mastersp4

Can't trade for 1yr after matche the OS

Thanks for the info. I wasn't aware and forgot to check the Offer sheet FAQ on this site first. My bad.

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Aug. 30, 2021 at 4:58 p.m.

FrankFurter48

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just throwing it out there...maybe the number the canes offered is a little high for someone unproven and the compensation MTL would get is kinda fair? not sure why everyone is shocked. i know it is a bush league move but it is within the rules and it is total payback for the Aho thing a few years ago. Everyone is making Kotkaniemi out like he is a superstar.

Aug. 30, 2021 at 4:58 p.m.

HabsFan33

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Quoting: Gmonwy

Also we are fine on top 6 wingers. Gaudreau Tkachuk Mangiapane and Coleman

For the record, Coleman is not top 6 winger. He may eventually fill that role but not because he has the talent for it. It will be because of injury or lack of depth on the Flames. A top 6 forward should be producing at least 40 pts/year, Coleman has not come close yet. And while were on the Coleman subject, $4.9M per year is a significant overpay by the Flames. On a 6 year term, that AAV should've been no more than $3.9M.

Aug. 30, 2021 at 5:00 p.m.

Marchy

Marchyyy

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Bro there’s no way that Bergevin and Waddell EVER makes a trade with each other’s EVER AGAIN

Aug. 30, 2021 at 5:15 p.m.

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TGDline

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Don't think that's right Habs can trade him its Carolina can't trade him.

Aug. 30, 2021 at 5:22 p.m.

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vikhodush

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Quoting: TGDline

Don't think that's right Habs can trade him its Carolina can't trade him.

Neither team can trade him according to nhl rules. Even if they could, no reason Canes would move Troch and Bear to get picks and prospects now.

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Aug. 30, 2021 at 5:31 p.m.

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mokumboi

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This OS has broken brains in the 514.

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Aug. 30, 2021 at 10:06 p.m.

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TGDline

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Quoting: vikhodush

Neither team can trade him according to nhl rules. Even if they could, no reason Canes would move Troch and Bear to get picks and prospects now.

if that's is the case why would sports writers be saying its and options for the Habs is to trade him

Aug. 30, 2021 at 10:07 p.m.

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vikhodush

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Quoting: TGDline

if that's is the case why would sports writers be saying its and options for the Habs is to trade him

I haven’t seen any of them saying that so not sure.

Aug. 30, 2021 at 10:36 p.m.

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HappyKampfers

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Quoting: TGDline

if that's is the case why would sports writers be saying its and options for the Habs is to trade him

Quoting: vikhodush

I haven’t seen any of them saying that so not sure.

The team receiving the OS (Habs) if matched cannot trade the player for one year.

The offersheet faq has nothing about the offering team so I assume they can do anything with the player

Aug. 31, 2021 at 4:37 a.m.

#16

mokumboi

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Quoting: TGDline

if that's is the case why would sports writers be saying its and options for the Habs is to trade him

Care to drop the link(s) of the people saying this?

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