Not bad IMO
LAK : Eichel
BOS : Kopitar
BUF : Turcotte Thomas DeBrusk 2 1st rounders and some cap in Haula and Moore

I can see the buffalo and LA part of the deal I can't see boston getting kopitar for a late 1st, debrusk, and haula and moore that hold no value.

I think with retention Kopitar is worth a ton but not sure of his value at 10 mill with his age. A young top 9 F and a 1st is good value , maybe Boston can add something going to LA idk

The issue here is I think it’s tough for Boston to take on three years of a 10 million 34 year old. Giving up debrusk, Moore, and a first definitely isn’t an issue, but 16 million to re-sign Bergeron and McAvoy is. I think McAvoy costs 11 long term, and they shouldn’t be banking on bergeron taking a huge cut.

I think if Coyle didn’t have an NTC , you totally include him in the deal instead of Moore and Haula and then the other 2 shouldn’t be super hard to move or in Moore’s case maybe a buyout

From a Sabre perspective this is a perfect trade.
Two centers who have a good ceiling.
Two first round draft picks in 2022
PK forward Haula
Two cap reduction players who could fill spots in the line up.
How about Eichel to LAK for Kopitar, Turcotte, Thomas, and 2022 1st round pick (LAK)
Kopitar with $3,000,000 retention to BOS for DeBrusk, Moore, Haula, 2022 1st round pick (BOS)
Kings get a top Center, Boston gets a less expensive 2nd Center, Buffalo gets a boat load of good prospects, picks and players.
I think the Kings need to add less, and the Bruins need to add more, but it is close.
Sort of not fair to Haula going from cup contender to first AO contender.
I think I need to look at this from a Sabre perspective,
With Haula and DeBrusk it opens up other trades for current roster players as well.

EDIT:
I took an old post and added these trades plus one.
https://www.capfriendly.com/armchair-gm/team/2658513
Losing jack is huge but this team would not be in the battle for 1st AO after adding the players as Haula, Debrusk, Butcher, Radulov etc. IMO

I just dont think its enough for kopitar especially retain ing 9 million dollars on him. Moore has negative value haula has almost no value so your talking debrusk and a 1st. Thats not enough for kopitar nevermind the giant amount thier retaining.

How about adding Beecher going to Buffalo with the retention

The problem with the bruins cap still remains.

There’s still the cap issue. There’s still the issue of acquiring an expensive guy until he’s 37.

Boston is in a win now mode basically. They’ve been since like 2010.

That is correct. No issue going after a veteran. No issue going after a guy on the back nine. But if there’s an issue with getting mcavoy and bergeron signed, that’s a problem.

I think there was so many deals like Reilly, Forbort, Coyle, Haula, Ullmark, Foligno, a lot of them were overpays

Sure were (except for reilly). But that doesn’t really matter now. The bruins aren’t going to acquire kopitar and risk not being able to extend mcavoy.

Maybe, honestly buffalo should keep him. Hes a perfect guy to rest the culture and especially if they get Wright to mentor the kid.

I hear you all.
Bruins need to add but still have cap issues.
If Boston adds then LAK has to reduce its offer as then the return for Eichel would be too much.
So let's shuffle the deck, LAK offers Kopitar, Turcotte, and 2022 1st round pick (LAK) for Eichel
Buffalo retains 50% of Kopitar for DeBrusk, Moore, Lysell and 2022 1st round pick (BOS)
Kings get Eichel
Bruins get Kopita $5,000,000 retained
Sabres get DeBrusk, Moore, Lysell, Turcotte, 2022 1st round pick (LAK) and 2022 1st round pick (BOS)
Bad precedent to trade a player just signed as a UFA>
Boston's window is shrinking.
They lost Ritchie and replaced him with Huala.
In this trade the Bruins replace Krejci, Moore and DeBrusk with Kopitar.
They will have Hall for the entire season.
Maybe Boston would need to add but, IMO this is still a huge haul for Buffalo.

Can you think of an instance of a team giving up a lot for a 34 year old guy signed for three years at huge money? Ya, me neither.

Chris Chellios 1999-Mar-23 Traded from Chicago Blackhawks to Detroit Red Wings for Anders Eriksson, round 1 pick in the 1999 draft (Steve McCarthy) and round 1 pick in the 2001 draft
Martin St. Louis 2014-Mar-05 Traded from Tampa Bay Lightning with round 2 pick in the 2015 draft (Oliver Kylington) to New York Rangers for Ryan Callahan, round 1 pick in the 2014 draft (Josh Ho-Sang), round 1 pick in the 2015 draft (Anthony Beauvillier) and round 7 pick in the 2015 draft (Ziyat Paigin)
Keith Tkachuk 2007-Feb-25 Traded from St. Louis Blues to Atlanta Thrashers for Glen Metropolit, round 1 pick in the 2007 draft (Mikael Backlund), round 3 pick in the 2007 draft (Brett Sonne) and round 2 pick in the 2008 draft
Mattias Norstrom 2007-Feb-27 Traded from Los Angeles Kings with Konstantin Pushkarev, round 3 pick in the 2007 draft (Sergei Korostin) and round 4 pick in the 2007 draft (Maksim Mayorov) to Dallas Stars for Jaroslav Modry, Johan Fransson, round 2 pick in the 2007 draft (Oscar Moller), round 3 pick in the 2007 draft (Bryan Cameron) and round 1 pick in the 2008 draft
I am sure there are more, but it is late, and I am tired.

So the first one i looked up was St. Louis, and he doesn’t even come remotely close to the qualifications I mentioned. Do the others? Did you think this was just old guys that got traded? I don’t think there’s an instance of this happening.

Got HockeyDB.com https://www.hockeydb.com/ihdb/stats/pdisplay.php?pid=946 look at the trade for Chris.
In the 1999 draft the Hawks picked Steve McCarthy (the Wings pick) and in the 2001 the Hawks drafted Adam Munro with the Wings pick.
The Hawks had two picks in 2001, with their 9th OA they picked Tuomo Ruutu.
How does St. Louis not qualify, He was 38 years old and the Rangers gave up two first round picks for him?
This is amazing, I give you four players two with players much older than 34.
I will admit, Boston may not want to give up that much, but you cannot dispute easily verifiable history.

So you’re missing some stuff with the qualifications for this apparently.
If you go back and read my post, its a guy of a certain age, signed for 3 years, at huge money. Now i would have thought that the phrase, “at huge money,” would mean cap era, as who gave a crap about money before that. Apparently it wasn’t enough. If you can find contract stuff for chelios, I’m all ears.
St. Louis was signed for one additional year, at kind of small money.
I stopped looking after that, as I don’t think you saw the list of qualifications and were just looking up guys taht were traded when they were old….i don’t really care about that.

I know it’s not a trade but Dallas gave Pavelski a 3 year deal at 7 per when he was 34/35 which is where Kopitar is right now. He has 3 years left at 10. If you can get a team like Buffalo to retain those 3 million, what’s the difference

Well, that’s just completely different. Not giving up assets. Setting a price the team is comfortable with.

As for the retention, i assume that would cost more.

Let’s pretend Kopitar is a UFA for a second. Bruins staff is considering signing him to a 3/21 deal that kopitars agent said would get the job done. I bet there would be some lively debate. Some in favor, some against. It’s a pretty tight decision to sign a guy to that kind of contract at that age. Then someone says, “oh by the way, if we sign this we have to give up a first, debrusk, prospects etc. Those that were arguing in favor of the signing sit down, and everyone moves on.