You've got TWO 1st round picks + Broberg + Lavoie for a cap dump.

Gibson is a cap dump. You aren't getting any of these assets from Edmonton for him.

OldNYIFan

LOL. You lost every argument so you're going for reinforcements?

I'm just trying to prove that despite poor numbers, Gibson is not a cap dump and can still rebound

You can't prove that though. Only John Gibson can prove it, and he's had 2 years to prove it and hasn't succeeded yet. Maybe he can turn things around, but until he does he's a cap dump.

Here's a comp between Gibson and Koskinen:

Past 2 years shots against/60
Gibson: 31.08
Koskinen: 32.70

Past 2 years 5v5 shots against/60
Gibson: 31.07
Koskinen: 32.34

Past 2 years 5v5 HD shots against/60
Gibson: 8.78
Koskinen: 8.50

So Koskinen faced more shots overall, more 5v5 shots and nearly as many 5v5 HD shots. Koskinen wasn't benefitting from a better defense, that's for sure. With that out of the way, lets look at how they performed:

Past 2 years save percentage
Gibson: .904
Koskinen: .910

Past 2 years 5v5 save percentage
Gibson: .916
Koskinen: .915

Past 2 years 5v5 HD save percentage
Gibson: .814
Koskinen: .833

I'm not seeing "miles better", are you? What I'm seeing is that Gibson has worse results than Koskinen despite a slightly lighter workload. And yet somehow you label Koskinen as a "cap dump" while asking for TWO high-end prospects + TWO 1st round picks for the worse player with a larger contract.

I see miles better

Try laser surgery. I've heard good things about it.

You should try it too!

I could name you 20+ teams where Koskinen would be a backup, some of which he wouldn't even be playing in the NHL (namely MTL, DAL, NYR, NYI, VAN, TOR, BOS and many others)

So? Tearing down Mikko Koskinen doesn't add anything to John Gibson.

Gibson would be a starter or 1B goalie on every team except Tampa and Winnipeg

You're a comedian. Funny I don't see you trading him to Toronto or Carolina for multiple high picks and prospects.

Toronto doesnt need him, but if they did i would give up Amirov and a 1st in a heartbeat

You're welcome to ruin your favorite team any time you want. I won't let you ruin mine.

You are going to be the only person i ever see that things your current sh-tty goalie tandem is better than John Gibson

OldNYIFan

I see miles better

Isn't it astounding that this guy is actually arguing that Koskinen is a better goalie than Gibson? And that his cherry-picked figures prove that?

I'll never be able to understand this guy's irrational hatred of John Gibson.

which ones? be specific

Getzlaf = i think i added in like a 4th or something, thats for getzlaf
Gibson = Koskinen, Broberg, Lavoie and a 1st

How is that bad??

Gibson is just not close to being worth 1 A level prospect (Broberg) and B level one (Lavoie) and 2 first !!!!!!! Koskinens cap dump value isnt anything given hes in his final year of his contract, Oilers could just burry him and save all of the assets youre apparently suggesting theyd need to dump him

Yeah i just realized i used two 1st, i meant for it to be one 1st