Why Connor Brown is similar in value to Blake Coleman and why he is not for sale

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Created by: sensonfire

Team: 2021-22 Ottawa Senators

Initial Creation Date: Oct. 4, 2021

Published: Oct. 4, 2021

Salary Cap Mode: Basic

Trades

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Connor Brown

Age 27

6 feet tall

Cap hit is 1.8 million if you retain half his salary

Has two years left on his contract

During the 2020-2021 season ...

Played all 56 Games

Scored 35 Points for 0.63 points per game

Played 18:14 in ice time per game

Logged 2 hours 43 minutes killing penalties

#1 Penalty Killing forward in the NHL based on time spent killing penalties

Scored 5 Shorthanded Goals

Put 123 shots on goal, 20 of which were shorthanded

Can play Left Wing or Right Wing anywhere in the Lineup

Currently plays for the Ottawa Senators and received 10 votes for the Selke Trophy

Since 2018

209 Games Played

107 Points

11.8 Shooting Percentage

0.51 points per Game

10 Shorthanded Points

+6 Playing for the Toronto Maple Leafs and the Ottawa Senators

CGY

Blake Coleman

Age 28 at the time he was traded

5 foot 11

Cap hit was 1.8 million when he was traded to Tampa.

Had two years left when he was traded

During the 2020-2021 season ...

Played 55 games and missed 1

Scored 31 points for 0.56 points per game

Played 15:28 in ice time per game for the Tampa Bay Lightning

Logged 2 hours 2 minutes killing penalties for Tampa

#16 Penalty Killing Forward in the NHL based on time spent killing penalties

Scored a shorthanded goal last season

Put 122 shots on goal, 16 of which were shorthanded

Can play Left Wing or Right Wing anywhere in the lineup

Played for the Tampa Bay Lightning last season but received 0 votes for the Selke Trophy

Since 2018

199 Games Played

99 Points

10.7 Shooting Percentage

0.50 points per game

10 Shorthanded Points

-4 playing for the New Jersey Devils and the Tampa Bay Lightning

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Foote, Nolan
Mukhamadullin, Shakir [Reserve List]

Additional Details:

What did New Jersey get for Blake Coleman?

1. A prospect that was very recently drafted in the first round

(Nolan Foote)

2. A 1st round pick for a deep draft

(Used by the Devils to select Mukhamadullin)

NJD

This is what the New Jersey Devils got for Blake Coleman when they traded him to Tampa on February 16, 2020.

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That means only one thing if we are trading Connor Brown ...

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The starting bid for Connor Brown will be exactly that:

1. A prospect that was very recently drafted in the first round

And

2. A 1st round pick for a deep draft

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Amirov, Rodion
2022 1st round pick (TOR)

TOR

Brown, Connor ($1,800,000 retained)

Additional Details:

That means something like this ...

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Barron, Justin
2023 1st round pick (COL)

COL

Or this ...

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Poulin, Samuel
2022 1st round pick (PIT)

PIT

Or this ...

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Coronato, Matthew [Reserve List]
2023 1st round pick (CGY)

CGY

Or this ...

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2023 1st round pick (NJD)

Additional Details:

Nolan Foote

NJD

Or maybe even this again.

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But we're not trading Connor Brown.

TOR

Over the next two years, we'll be pushing to make the playoffs.

And maybe get lucky in the first round like Montreal last season

Against a team that is built for the regular season instead of the playoffs.

Either way, Connor Brown is going to be a part of it.

And we're going to reward him for it once it's all set in done

Like we did in October, 22nd 2020

It's going to be a beautiful thing.

I look forward to watching it with you :D

Buyouts

Bobby Ryan: $3,583,333
Dion Phaneuf: $354,167

Retained Salary Transactions

Connor Brown: $1,800,000 (50%)

Draft	Round 1	Round 2	Round 3	Round 4	Round 5	Round 6	Round 7
2022
2023
2024

ROSTER

LONG-TERM OUTLOOK

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TEXT-EMBED

ROSTER SIZE	SALARY CAP	CAP HIT	OVERAGES	BONUSES	CAP SPACE
25	$81,500,000	$58,661,749	$0	$4,720,000	$22,838,251

Left Wing	Centre	Right Wing
	Batherson, Drake $4,975,000$4,975,000 RW, LW UFA - 6	White, Colin $4,750,000$4,750,000 C, RW UFA - 4
Sanford, Zachary $2,000,000$2,000,000 LW, RW UFA - 1	Tierney, Chris $3,500,000$3,500,000 C UFA - 1	Watson, Austin $1,500,000$1,500,000 RW, LW UFA - 2
Formenton, Alex $747,500$747,500 ($107,500$108K) LW RFA - 1	Paul, Nicholas $749,250$749,250 C, LW UFA - 1
	Stützle, Tim $925,000$925,000 ($2,500,000$2M) C UFA - 2
Foote, Nolan $863,333$863,333 LW RFA - 3	Norris, Joshua $925,000$925,000 ($850,000$850K) C UFA - 1
Amirov, Rodion $925,000$925,000 LW UFA - 3	Pinto, Shane $925,000$925,000 ($600,000$600K) C RFA - 2
Poulin, Samuel $863,333$863,333 C, LW RFA - 3	Bishop, Clark $800,000$800,000 C, LW UFA - 1

Left Defense	Right Defense	Goaltender
Chabot, Thomas $8,000,000$8,000,000 LD UFA - 7	Zaitsev, Nikita $4,500,000$4,500,000 RD M-NTC UFA - 3	Murray, Matt $4,687,500$4,687,500 G M-NTC UFA - 3
Del Zotto, Michael $2,000,000$2,000,000 LD UFA - 2	Zub, Artem $2,500,000$2,500,000 RD UFA - 2	Forsberg, Anton $900,000$900,000 G UFA - 1
Holden, Nick $1,700,000$1,700,000 LD UFA - 1	Brown, Joshua $1,200,000$1,200,000 RD UFA - 1
Mete, Victor $1,200,000$1,200,000 LD/RD UFA - 1	Brännström, Erik $863,333$863,333 ($450,000$450K) LD/RD, LW RFA - 1
Barron, Justin $925,000$925,000 ($212,500$212K) RD RFA - 3

Oct. 4, 2021 at 7:13 p.m.

#26

sensonfire

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Quoting: JaredOfLondon

I do love it when a fan of a team whose only cup winning goal ever is an own goal tries to talk success smack

I do love it when a fan of a team whose only destiny nowadays is a first round exit tries to talk success smack.

Also, that own goal was from over a decade ago and nobody remembers it except you.

Oct. 4, 2021 at 7:15 p.m.

#27

sensonfire

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Quoting: RIP_RICK_RYPIEN

unless he requests a trade lol

And that hasn't happened during his time in Ottawa.

So ... crickets.

Oct. 4, 2021 at 7:19 p.m.

#28

JaredOfLondon

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Quoting: sensonfire

I do love it when a fan of a team whose only destiny nowadays is a first round exit tries to talk success smack.

Also, that own goal was from over a decade ago and nobody remembers it except you.

Lol, you just tried to burn me by saying no one remembers your own teams cup run. fantastic stuff

Oct. 4, 2021 at 7:24 p.m.

#29

sensonfire

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Quoting: JaredOfLondon

Lol, you just tried to burn me by saying no one remembers your own teams cup run. fantastic stuff

Nobody remembers when the Leafs won a playoff round either.

Oct. 4, 2021 at 7:24 p.m.

#30

RIP_RICK_RYPIEN

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Quoting: sensonfire

And that hasn't happened during his time in Ottawa.

So ... crickets.

not yet
been there for 2 season
1 proper season 2019-2020
has 2 left
hasnt made playoffs
if they dont make payoffs this year hes out

Oct. 4, 2021 at 7:26 p.m.

#31

JaredOfLondon

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Quoting: sensonfire

Nobody remembers when the Leafs won a playoff round either.

so you agree, no one cares enough about your own team to remember their best season ever.

Oct. 4, 2021 at 7:29 p.m.

#32

sensonfire

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Quoting: RIP_RICK_RYPIEN

not yet
been there for 2 season
1 proper season 2019-2020
has 2 left
hasnt made playoffs
if they dont make payoffs this year hes out

As an Ontario native playing for an up and coming team in Ontario, I find that unlikely.

Oct. 4, 2021 at 7:36 p.m.

#33

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Quoting: JaredOfLondon

so you agree, no one cares enough about your own team to remember their best season ever.

People only care about the answer to this question:

"What have you done for me lately?"

People remember and care for the Ottawa Senators because they've improved from the previous season.

Lots of people remember and care for the wealthiest team in the league after they make the playoffs.

Just not for the right reasons.

You would know.

Oct. 4, 2021 at 7:40 p.m.

#34

zk97

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interesting concept... love reading these things over other things
Brown on MTL would be cool imo but like you said it would take a lot...
unless you want Mailloux 😉

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Oct. 4, 2021 at 7:44 p.m.

#35

JaredOfLondon

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Quoting: sensonfire

nah, people care about the leafs because they're the wealthiest team in the league with the biggest fanbase and are currently one of the better and most exciting teams in the league and even sens fans care about the leafs more than they do their own team, hating the leafs is literally their primary identity. Lil brothers of the NHL, forever in the shadow.

Oct. 4, 2021 at 7:58 p.m.

#36

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Quoting: JaredOfLondon

The Leafs are sort of exciting when they make the playoffs.

They certainly have a decent performance in the regular season.

Until the last game of the first round ends and then reality kicks in.

Why would I hate the Leafs when that happens?

If anything, I'd feel sorry you.

Big brothers of the NHL, forever in the shadow of first round exits.

Oct. 4, 2021 at 7:58 p.m.

#37

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Barron is a non starter for COL. Good break down on the comparison though. However TBL willing over paid for a low contract because they were so tight against the cap and were definitely a cup favorite. I don’t know that you can expect teams to pay that premium if they have cap space like COL is projected to have over $4M cap space at the deadline. Really good post though.

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Oct. 4, 2021 at 8:01 p.m.

#38

yikes

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I love Connor Brown so I’m just here for the CBrown appreciation post

Don’t know if many teams would meet the price but if a teams desperate like Tampa I could see a similar trade (deep pick but a deep draft (this year) like #20-32, and a solid prospect). Either way I’d rather see Brown stay in Ottawa, he’s quite useful and would be a hard piece to replace.

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Oct. 4, 2021 at 8:01 p.m.

#39

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Quoting: Xqb15a

Thanks for the warm reception.

Always like producing good quality posts

Would Olausson be a non-starter for Colorado as well?

Oct. 4, 2021 at 8:01 p.m.

#40

JaredOfLondon

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Quoting: sensonfire

all you really have is "i know you are but what am i" eh? disappointing.

Oct. 4, 2021 at 8:02 p.m.

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TheThunder

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Quoting: sensonfire

Nobody remembers when the Leafs won a playoff round either.

2003 TB has three cups since

Oct. 4, 2021 at 8:07 p.m.

#42

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Poulin and a 1st would not happen. Poulin is a top 100 prospect in NHL, close to NHL ready. 6’3, 210 pound Power forward.

Connor Brown isn’t the same two-way, gritty player like Coleman. Not even close.

He’s a complimentary winger, that isn’t elite at anything. Doesn’t even play a good two-way game. Doesn’t “hit” a lot, isn’t a top PP threat.

A nice winger. On a good not great contract.

Oct. 4, 2021 at 8:08 p.m.

#43

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Quoting: JaredOfLondon

all you really have is "i know you are but what am i" eh? disappointing.

What I have is people coming to my posts like a flock of birds and giving me such lovely commentary.

Even you.

What do you have?

Oct. 4, 2021 at 8:09 p.m.

#44

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Quoting: TheThunder

2003 TB has three cups since

That's nice

Oct. 4, 2021 at 8:09 p.m.

#45

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Quoting: sensonfire

What I have is people coming to my posts like a flock of birds and giving me such lovely commentary.

Even you.

What do you have?

yeah, the lil bro is always starved for attention

Oct. 4, 2021 at 8:11 p.m.

#46

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Quoting: LetsGoPens69

Is Coleman elite for not receiving any votes for the Selke Trophy?

Oct. 4, 2021 at 8:11 p.m.

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TheThunder

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Quoting: sensonfire

That's nice

Quoting: sensonfire

That's nice

Very

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Oct. 4, 2021 at 8:12 p.m.

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Quoting: sensonfire

Thanks for the warm reception.

Always like producing good quality posts

Would Olausson be a non-starter for Colorado as well?

Right now probably, he has looked fantastic in the preseason. At the trade dead line that might be a different story. Right now COL has to work through who is going to be their bottom 6 and they have a lot of guys that are really pushing for spots in Ranta and Bowers, a guy they targeted in the Graves trade in Maltsev, a guy they just gave a 3yr extension to in LOC, Newhook needs to play with the Avs this year, they signed Helm as UFA, and still have guys like Jost and Compher. That’s 8 guys not counting Nichushkin who has been playing 2LW, and Kaut. Guys like Olausson are even more valuable to them because they are cost controlled. All that being said I do think Sakic is going to do more than just add meh depth guys like Soderberg and Nemeth this year.

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Oct. 4, 2021 at 8:14 p.m.

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Quoting: JaredOfLondon

yeah, the lil bro is always starved for attention

And thank you for giving me that attention.

You'll be giving even more of it, once you start typing up another reply and then reach for that submit button.

I can feel it.

Oct. 4, 2021 at 8:18 p.m.

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Quoting: sensonfire

And thank you for giving me that attention.

You'll be giving even more of it, once you start typing up another reply and then reach for that submit button.

I can feel it.

well, it is the big brothers job to pretend the little one is doing a good job

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