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Whats the best option

Created by: rookescr96
Team: 2021-22 Edmonton Oilers
Initial Creation Date: Nov. 2, 2021
Published: Nov. 2, 2021
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What is Gibson's value, who is the best option?
Wait for Skinner/Konovalov?
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CHI
    2022 1st Round Draft Pick
    Mikko Koskinen
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      2022 First Round Draft Pick
      Dimitri Samorukov
      Mikko Koskinen
      2023 2nd Round Draft Pick
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        2022 First Round Draft Pick
        Mikko Koskinen
        Dimitri Samorukov
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        UFA - 1
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        Nov. 2, 2021 at 10:43 a.m.
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        If you are spending that type of capital, then you should go with 1) Fleury (with retention, for that package), then 2) Korpisalo (for probably that package and a 3rd rather than a 1st), then 3) Gibson (for maybe a 2rd and retention on his contract...due to his contract length and term, but not a 1st)
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        Nov. 2, 2021 at 10:52 a.m.
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        That's some massive overpayment for Korpi and Fleury
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        Nov. 2, 2021 at 11:15 a.m.
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        Koskinen is >>>>>>>>> Korpisalo
        Nov. 2, 2021 at 11:27 a.m.
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        The only deal that is even close to market value here is the Gibson deal. Even there you're making a huge gamble that he himself hasn't declined and its 100% the team in front of him causing his numbers to be below average. It's likely a combo of the 2.

        Koskinen is better than Korpisalo so not sure why you're giving a 1st AND a blue chip prospect to worsen your goaltending.

        While Fleury is coming off of a Vezina, I'm hard pressed to trade Koski while he's playing well for Fleury while he's struggling AND throw in a 1st to do it. That's just asking for it to blow up in your face. It's murphy's law that Koskinen would go to Chicago and play lights out and Fleury would not round to form in Edmonton.
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        Nov. 2, 2021 at 11:29 a.m.
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        In this scenario, the best option would be to stick with Koskinen. I like Gibson but I don't think Anaheim would trade him to a division rival for that package.
        Nov. 2, 2021 at 11:48 a.m.
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        Or stick with kosk and reevaluate the position in offseason. He’s been really good. One shaky game against philly but otherwise very solid I’m not sure any of them is a true upgrade.
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        Nov. 2, 2021 at 12:02 p.m.
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        Quoting: rpain
        The only deal that is even close to market value here is the Gibson deal. Even there you're making a huge gamble that he himself hasn't declined and its 100% the team in front of him causing his numbers to be below average. It's likely a combo of the 2.

        Koskinen is better than Korpisalo so not sure why you're giving a 1st AND a blue chip prospect to worsen your goaltending.

        While Fleury is coming off of a Vezina, I'm hard pressed to trade Koski while he's playing well for Fleury while he's struggling AND throw in a 1st to do it. That's just asking for it to blow up in your face. It's murphy's law that Koskinen would go to Chicago and play lights out and Fleury would not round to form in Edmonton.


        I do agree with that, if Fleury is having a down year might not be worth the price to upgrade from Koskinen for only one playoff run.
        I think Gibson would be the best goalie potentially available at the moment but for a team with Puljujarvi, Yamamoto, Bouchard, Holloway, and Broberg all likely needing pay raises in the future, maybe the 6.4 mil could be spent elsewhere
        Nov. 2, 2021 at 1:09 p.m.
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        Quoting: rookescr96
        I do agree with that, if Fleury is having a down year might not be worth the price to upgrade from Koskinen for only one playoff run.
        I think Gibson would be the best goalie potentially available at the moment but for a team with Puljujarvi, Yamamoto, Bouchard, Holloway, and Broberg all likely needing pay raises in the future, maybe the 6.4 mil could be spent elsewhere


        I would have been all over a Fleury for Koski swap in the summer. But clearly moving franchises at his age has had an impact on is play, and thats not overly surprising. Fluery was with the Penguins for so long and the writing was on the wall that he was on his way to Vegas. He could prepare for that. After a pretty sudden move to Chicago, he's looked pretty of more games than not this year. There is reason to expect a mid-season move would be similar. And at this point, the Oilers have zero complaints with Koskinen. No questions that Koski/Smith aren't long term solutions (hell not even solutions for next season), but neither is Fleury, so no reason to make the deal.

        I was interested in Korpi like 5-6 years ago. SInce then, he has had stretches of strong play, but he stats are not at all enticing of moving a 1st rounder for. As has already been mentioned, he and Koski have been pretty comparable over the last few seasons, which Koski taking the tops in several categories. I would argue the only reason that there is any traction in a deal like this is because the "vocal minority" Oilers fans have been a lot louder on hating on Koskinen than fans are in the smaller market Columbus. Statistically, this deal is just not an upgrade and the way Korpi has been trending, not much reason to suggest he's a long-term solution.

        That brings us to Gibson. No doubt this deal is steep, and ideally I'd like to shed one of Samorukov or the 2nd, but I without a doubt would be targeting him. Duck fans understandably don't want to move him, no less to a divisional rival, but trying to be as objective as possible, I honestly believe that his prime years are just not aligned at all with the Ducks next competitive window. In saying that, I also understand the value in still having some good players on a lottery team to maintain a good culture, but at the same time, it will be guys the Zegras and Drysdale who will shape the team down the line. I know its easy to say hypothetically, but if I were a Ducks fan I would absolutely try to load up on young talent and assets. Give yourself the best chance when your window opens 4-5 years down the line. Just my thoughts
         
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