Why shouldnt CBJ do this today

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Created by: exo2769

Team: 2021-22 Chicago Blackhawks

Initial Creation Date: Dec. 12, 2021

Published: Dec. 12, 2021

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The Hawks are playing better hockey lately. They're not going to be the last place or 2nd to last place team. You "help" the Hawks by slightly overpaying for DeHaan, but you really help yourself because the #5 pick is better than the #10 pick by a ton.

That's the math Jarmo should be doing. If he can remove the guy that's currently playing the #1LD...does that make my CHI draft pick better? The Hawks will always have a certain percentage to win the lottery. For every "extra" 5% the Hawks get to Wright....they have a 95% chance that CBJ gets 1 more pick better.

You still can't overpay for DeHaan but a ton, but make sure you get KD to accept. And by the way....you're still in the playoff hunt too. He really can help your own young Dmen develop.

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CHI

2022 3rd round pick (TBL)

CBJ

De Haan, Calvin

Retained Salary Transactions

Olli Määttä: $750,108 (18.37%)

Buried

Brett Connolly: $2,375,000 ($3,500,000)

Draft	Round 1	Round 2	Round 3	Round 4	Round 5	Round 6	Round 7
2022
2023
2024

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ROSTER SIZE	SALARY CAP	CAP HIT	OVERAGES	BONUSES	CAP SPACE
22	$81,500,000	$57,980,880	$452,439	$2,615,000	$23,519,120

Left Wing	Centre	Right Wing
DeBrincat, Alex $6,400,000$6,400,000 LW, RW UFA - 2	Toews, Jonathan $10,500,000$10,500,000 C NMC UFA - 2	Kane, Patrick $2,625,000$2,625,000 RW NMC UFA - 2
Kubalik, Dominik $3,700,000$3,700,000 LW, RW UFA - 1	Strome, Dylan $3,000,000$3,000,000 C UFA - 1	Carpenter, Ryan $1,000,000$1,000,000 RW, C UFA - 1
Hagel, Brandon $1,500,000$1,500,000 LW UFA - 3	Borgström, Henrik $1,000,000$1,000,000 C RFA - 2	Johnson, Reese $880,833$880,833 RW, C RFA - 1
Hardman, Mike $912,500$912,500 LW, RW UFA - 1	Dach, Kirby $925,000$925,000 ($2,500,000$2M) C, RW RFA - 1	Gabriel, Kurtis $750,000$750,000 RW UFA - 1
Kurashev, Philipp $842,500$842,500 ($32,500$32K) LW, C, RW RFA - 1	Slavin, Josiah $842,500$842,500 ($82,500$82K) C UFA - 2

Left Defense	Right Defense	Goaltender
	Jones, Seth $5,400,000$5,400,000 RD M-NTC UFA - 1	Fleury, Marc-André $3,500,000$3,500,000 G M-NTC UFA - 1
McCabe, Jake $2,000,000$2,000,000 LD/RD M-NTC UFA - 4	Murphy, Connor $3,850,000$3,850,000 RD UFA - 1	Lankinen, Kevin $800,000$800,000 G UFA - 1
Stillman, Riley $1,350,000$1,350,000 LD RFA - 3
Jones, Caleb $850,000$850,000 LD/RD UFA - 1
Gustafsson, Erik $800,000$800,000 LD UFA - 1

Scratches	Injured Reserve (IR)	Long Term IR (LTIR)
	Khaira, Jujhar $975,000$975,000 LW, C UFA - 2	Johnson, Tyler $5,000,000$5,000,000 RW, C, LW M-NTC UFA - 3
		Shaw, Andrew $3,900,000$3,900,000 C, RW UFA - 1

Dec. 12, 2021 at 12:03 p.m.

QualityTrades1

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Are you okay? Reading this is giving me a migraine

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Dec. 12, 2021 at 12:06 p.m.

Wadejos123

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I don't think Davidson and King realize that this team isn't getting back into the wildcard hunt yet

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Dec. 12, 2021 at 12:07 p.m.

JaredOfLondon

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so you admit it's an over pay....and that columbus would be helping the hawks out by trading for him at all. That's some interesting logic

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Dec. 12, 2021 at 12:33 p.m.

dopplsan

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If he was a RD and could come with a cheap extension, maybe. CBJ have no need for LD - our blue line is already either stacked with long terms pieces, or uses the space to give young guys playing time.

Not to mention, looking at CHI’s upcoming schedule, it’s going to get tough. All told, I expect their pick will probably be Top-10.

I think the better question right now is what this team does at TDL. Trade away all the players you can for futures and hope you are bad enough that it turns out to be 1 or 2 OA (while risking a better pick go to CBJ), or try and fight it out this season so the conveyed pick is as “good” as possible, and chalk any anti-tanking to a sort of “we’re trying to build character” type excuse?

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Dec. 12, 2021 at 1:16 p.m.

exo2769

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Edited Dec. 12, 2021 at 1:41 p.m.

Quoting: dopplsan

The pick already sent to CBJ is a "sunk cost" you can't change it. It's not wasting time if your CBJ. If you can make that pick a better pick while also helping your own team...why not.

KD can't focused on the CHI 2022 1st even if they trade everyone away. He needs to focus on whatever he thinks makes this team better.

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Dec. 12, 2021 at 1:17 p.m.

exo2769

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Edited Dec. 12, 2021 at 1:40 p.m.

Quoting: JaredOfLondon

so you admit it's an over pay....and that columbus would be helping the hawks out by trading for him at all. That's some interesting logic

If CBJ can make a projected #7 to a #4 all while making your own playoff chances better...it's worth it.

Dec. 12, 2021 at 1:32 p.m.

dopplsan

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Quoting: exo2769

The pick already sent to CBJ is a "sunk cost" you can't change it. It's not wanting time ymif your CBJ. If you can make that pick a better pick while also helping your own team...why not.

KD can't focused on the CHI 2022 even if they trade everyone away. He needs to focus on whatever he thinks makes this team better.

I get what you’re saying. Even if he is your #1 LD, I’m not sure the loss of DeHaan, considering how bad CHI otherwise may be, is enough to be consequential in anything more than, what, a loss or two? The guy hasn’t scored a single point all season.

So, what I’m saying is, I’m not sure giving up a 3rd rounder is enough to make a difference in order to “buy” a loss or two. Plus, for every draft spot “worse” for CHI (slash better for CBJ), the odds you gain of the better draft spot have to be taken in with the improved odds the pick is 1 or 2 OA, and is retained by CHI.

And I mean, if that happens, sure the pick is then unprotected in 2023, but if CHI gets a Shane Wright, I don’t see them as being a worse team next year. Still probably bottom-10, but not worse.

Then again, I don’t follow them as closely. As a CBJ fan, I’m just tracking them because of the pick.

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Dec. 12, 2021 at 1:56 p.m.

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