Brock Faber is not available under any circumstances.

VAN is not moving Horvat, a full rebuild is not happening either, it will be a retool with the roster.

if this happens im jumping ship

Not saying Horvat will be traded or that this is the path they should take. I thought it would be interesting to post something different from what every other person posts.

Let me ask you guys this though, do you think its likely (not possible because almost anything is possible) that with their roster, prospects, picks, and cap situation that they can do a retool that would allow them to compete for the cup (not playoffs) in the near future?
I think it would be extremely difficult. I see them as having two core groups of players one of which will be out of their primes before the team is good enough to compete, in my opinion some of those players should be moved. Again not saying they should gut the team but this team is currently not in a good position to succeed now or in the near future.

I disagree with that. LA has a lot of young depth at the RD position. Not saying they would necessary trade him in a Boeser package but I definitely think he's available, every player is for the right price.

This team doesn't need to do a full rebuild, period. We have a fringe playoff team as it is, not a cellar dweller. Clearing cap space won't be anywhere near as difficult as some people worry it will be

If Boeser is going to LA, conversation has to start with either Faber or Jordan Spence, assuming Brandt Clarke is off the table. Kings currently have Doughty, Roy, Sean Durzi, Austin Strand, and Sean Walker (currently injured) as it is

Vancouver is a fringe playoff team with a bare prospect cupboards and no 2nd round pick this year, how is the team going to transition from a fringe playoff team to a contender? They don't have the cap space to sign key free agents, and they don't have any impact prospects that can make the jump and contribute enough for them to make the jump. There is a massive difference between being a fringe playoff team and a cup contender.

Can't you read? I just said it won't be hard for them to clear cap space to sign a couple of free agents. I know there is a massive difference, I can see this team being contenders in as little as two years down the road

You don't become contenders through free agency. It's too expensive and free agents are usually on the verge of being over the hill. I think the Canucks can be very good in 3 years but it's not because they cleared cap space and signed free agents its because they make a few smart big moves over the next 18 months that position themselves well.

I never said the key rests on free agency, but I do agree in that I believe their new management group can make some very smart moves to position the team well in the near future

"There were insiders saying had the Canucks traded him at last years TDL he could have returned a late 1st or early second... "


Hahahahahahahaha WHAT???? Was this insiders or meth users?

When people say "every player is available for the right price," they're usually using that phrase to justify their contention that the player is available at all, and by "right price," they really mean "for a favorable if not downright one-sided return." Is Faber available for Adam Fox? Of course. Is Faber available for Owen Power? Sure. Is Faber available for Montreal's top-2 protected 2022 first-round draft pick? Probably. But the Kings aren't going to get that for him. In the real world, the return for him is going to be close to an equivalent value. And they're not going to trade him for a theoretically equivalent value because management and the scouting staff have already settled on his value and thus believe that they know what they've got, whereas they don't know what they would have with the "equivalent value."

As to the trade proposed here, whether Los Angeles would include him in a trade for Boeser is a close call. Even up? Sure. With a second? Maybe. With our 2022 first? Doubtful. As shown? No chance. But that's just my opinion.

I don't think Rob Blake and the front office are eager to trade a first and a second in a deal for virtually ANY player. To me, a Boeser deal looks like a first, a roster player and a prospect, which is what most deals for an impact player and high-quality improvement on the roster look like.

You think Schenn gets a 3 BHAHAHAHA

No thanks for caps, we need to get younger. McM is our future and we’re not giving him up unless we get a young forward/prospect back. Also We’re really short on RHD so iorio is not going anywhere

What is it you feel I had issue with interpreting and understanding? No need to get upset over a forum post.
You mentioned the team didn’t need a full rebuild because they are a “fringe playoff team”, I was pointing out how difficult it will be for Vancouver to make the jump from “fringe playoff team” to cup contender based on their current situation. Personally I would rather suffer another 2-3 years with no playoffs if it meant watching some exciting young talent, then turning into a long term contender.

You would have to ask them. If I recall correctly (last years deadline was almost a year ago) there were multiple insiders saying he could fetch at least a 2nd. I was surprised to hear the 1st but I do recall the insider said it was due to last years draft being weak and a crap shoot due to Covid.

That’s not what I said in the explanation. I said I wouldn’t trade him unless he brings back a 3rd. I don’t see his value changing much between this years deadline and nexts, and he’s been a good fit with the team so there’s no rush to trade him. Insides were also saying that Vancouver doesn’t want to move the player unless it’s a can’t refuse offer (which is probably a 3rd in the case for this player).

That’s fair. I saw some other Caps fan saying they would take this deal on other AGM’s. I think that’s around the cost to move Garland because of his age/contract. I picked WASHas a trade partner because I think there a team that’s wants/needs to win now before their window closes.

They might consider Grans or Spence. Clarke and/or Faber will not be traded for Boeser.

IMO, Kings would trade Roy, Durzi, Strand, and Walker before they traded Faber. They'd probably consider Spence too. Doughty, Clarke, and Faber are the future of the Kings RHD.

People through around the term “untouchable” and “unavailable” far to often. I don’t think you’ll have to blow the socks off a team to acquire Faber, good offer and team fit for sure but I don’t think one would have to significantly overpay for the player.

As for the value part, I don’t think we’re that far apart? You mentioned Boeser being worth a 1st/roster player/prospect, I would personally take a younger roster player returning over a 2nd.

Not only that, but Washington is already clogged on the wings, making Garland essentially excess goods. If we have to give up this return, It should be for something much more worthwhile than Garland.

More like, that "insider" was having a wild delusion. That's so far from reality, it's kooky. Motte has never been near to worth a 1st in his life. If you can remember who it was, please do share.

I wish nothing but the best to Luke,if that's their bottom line I feel confident saying he'll be in Vancouver.