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Namestnikov is playing at a much higher rate this year so his past value isn't much of an indicator of his current value. Taking a retention spot alone is worth at least a 4th. If you want retention a 2nd is closer to what I think his real value will be.

Wings pass, 2nd for him or we keep and resign him

Your really close though. Just bump it up again or get him without retention.

3rd with no retention. 2nd if you want $$$$ retained.

3rd/4th + prospect (e.g., Kaut or Beaucage)?

3rd and beaucage works for me.

If you're adding to the 4th line, I think I'd prefer a defensive forward like Clutterbuck. Namestnikov might look good on the third with Nichushkin and Newhook though.

I'd try to swap out Bowers for a third in the Philly trade, but that's small potatoes. Overall looks pretty good.

I like the Flyers trade, Helleson 1st and bowers as the future pieces works

I pass on Namestnikov, hes not worth a 3rd IMO, hes not as good as when he was traded twice the same year for a 4th round pick, dont see the logic trading a better pick for a guy who isnt really bedder than LOC or NAK?

I would try to snag somene else. Rather do Clutterbuck for a 3rd than Namestnikov

My thinking is that Namestnikov is more maneuverable throughout the lineup should someone go down. Clutterbuck is purely a 4th liner in my book.

That's true and a good point. I think with Jost and LOC also capable that is a nice to have but maybe not a necessity. Gotta weigh that against the heavier game and defense first mentality that clusterf@%k brings. No right or wrong but more a matter of preference I guess.

I agree 3rd + beaucage is a homerun

You aren’t getting that for namestinkov,

IMO avs have enough guys who can move around the top 9. NAK, LOC, Compher, Newhook. Those guys can moonlight in the Top 6 if needed. Get something else besides a Swiss army knife that really was meh during his stint

He also is reasonable for that goal against in game 7 against the stars. SO im done on him bc of that brain fart of his, just plays a bit too soft on the puck for my liking

Cool I didn't suggest I, I said I agree with the above posters, learn to read. Namenstinkov is getting a 2nd with retention or they will just resign him and not move him. since avs can't the op said 3rd and one of beaucage or kaut and I agreed.

Namenstinkov is not being traded for a 2nd bc of retention, you guys are living in a dream world thinking he is going to get more than 4th. He has almost the identical stat line last time he was traded at the TDL, which was a 4th round pick. He had a cap hit of 4m. At 2m, even if you retain that is not a significant amount which now makes the same production from the same player but now 2 years older jump up from a 4th to a 2nd.

Beaucage and 3rd looks great for Namestnikov. Good trade.

And then he doesn't get moved and we resign him and it's fine and everybody is happy. No point in moving him for a 4th, we are past that part of the rebuild

I like the Flyers trade.

Both overpays by the Avs imo. Namestnikov 4th or pass. Maybe 3rd with retention. Too many pieces going to PHI.