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Created by: Borocop

Team: 2022-23 Ottawa Senators

Initial Creation Date: Mar. 10, 2022

Published: Mar. 10, 2022

Salary Cap Mode: Basic

Description

then after this year, pay to unload the 1 left year of Zaitsev, and buy out colin white.

then ride off into the sunset with the stanley cup

Free Agent Signings

RESERVE LIST		YEARS	CAP HIT
Sanderson, Jake		3	$925,000

RFA	YEARS	CAP HIT
Norris, Joshua	4	$6,750,000
Formenton, Alex	2	$2,750,000
DiPietro, Michael	1	$875,000
Brännström, Erik	1	$1,500,000

UFA	YEARS	CAP HIT
Forsberg, Filip	8	$12,000,000
Forsberg, Anton	3	$3,800,000
Paul, Nicholas	5	$2,750,000

Trades

OTT

NSH

Thomson, Lassi
2022 1st round pick (OTT)

Additional Details:

TDL Sign and trade for Forsberg
im completely out of my depth here in trying to figure out what kind of trade leverage nashville has over ottawa in this scenario, but if you tell me i can get filip forsberg for 8x12 id probably be willing to give up a lot to make that happen

Id ideally want to protect the pick but i have no idea what kind of ballpark im even in here

OTT

DiPietro, Michael [RFA Rights]
2022 5th round pick (VAN)

VAN

2022 3rd round pick (VAN)

Additional Details:

i think adding a goalie on a 2 way contract is something to look at if theyre rolling with gusavsson and forsberg. Not sure if dipietro is even avaliable or what hed cost but could be a decent addintion

Buyouts

Bobby Ryan: $1,833,333
Dion Phaneuf: $354,167
Matt Murray: $1,750,000

Draft	Round 1	Round 2	Round 3	Round 4	Round 5	Round 6	Round 7
2022
2023
2024

ROSTER

LONG-TERM OUTLOOK

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ROSTER SIZE	SALARY CAP	CAP HIT	OVERAGES	BONUSES	CAP SPACE
21	$81,500,000	$74,518,214	$0	$3,525,000	$6,981,786

Left Wing	Centre	Right Wing
Tkachuk, Brady $8,205,714$8,205,714 LW UFA - 6	Norris, Joshua $6,750,000$6,750,000 C UFA - 8	Batherson, Drake $4,975,000$4,975,000 RW, LW UFA - 5
Forsberg, Filip $12,000,000$12,000,000 LW UFA - 8	Stützle, Tim $925,000$925,000 ($2,500,000$2M) C UFA - 1	Brown, Connor $3,600,000$3,600,000 RW, LW UFA - 1
Formenton, Alex $2,750,000$2,750,000 LW RFA	Pinto, Shane $925,000$925,000 ($600,000$600K) C RFA - 1	White, Colin $1,200,000$1,200,000 C, RW UFA - 1
Kelly, Parker $762,500$762,500 LW RFA - 2	Paul, Nicholas $2,750,000$2,750,000 C, LW UFA - 7	Watson, Austin $1,500,000$1,500,000 RW, LW UFA - 1

Left Defense	Right Defense	Goaltender
Chabot, Thomas $8,000,000$8,000,000 LD UFA - 6	Zub, Artem $2,500,000$2,500,000 RD UFA - 1	Forsberg, Anton $3,800,000$3,800,000 G UFA - 3
Brännström, Erik $1,500,000$1,500,000 LD/RD, LW RFA - 1	Sanderson, Jake $925,000$925,000 LD UFA - 2	Gustavsson, Filip $787,500$787,500 G UFA - 1
	Bernard-Docker, Jacob $925,000$925,000 ($425,000$425K) RD RFA - 1
Holden, Nick $1,300,000$1,300,000 LD M-NTC UFA - 1

Scratches	Injured Reserve (IR)	Long Term IR (LTIR)
Zaitsev, Nikita $4,500,000$4,500,000 RD M-NTC UFA - 2		Greig, Ridly $863,333$863,333 C, LW RFA - 3
		Kastelic, Mark $821,667$821,667 C, RW RFA - 1
		Crookshank, Angus $838,333$838,333 LW RFA - 2
		Reinhardt, Cole $813,333$813,333 LW RFA - 2
		Sokolov, Egor $818,333$818,333 ($15,000$15K) LW RFA - 1
		Del Zotto, Michael $750,000$750,000 LD UFA - 1
		DiPietro, Michael $875,000$875,000 G RFA - 1

Mar. 10, 2022 at 11:39 p.m.

Gmonwy

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Holy overpay for Forsberg

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Mar. 10, 2022 at 11:42 p.m.

Borocop

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Au-revoir Dorion

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Quoting: Gmonwy

Holy overpay for Forsberg

in which sense

Mar. 10, 2022 at 11:46 p.m.

Gmonwy

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Quoting: Borocop

in which sense

He isn't good enough to be the 2nd highest paid player per year

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Mar. 10, 2022 at 11:46 p.m.

villenash

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Forsberg is good, but not that good… that contract is insane.

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Mar. 10, 2022 at 11:48 p.m.

Borocop

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Quoting: Gmonwy

He isn't good enough to be the 2nd highest paid player per year

Quoting: villenash

Forsberg is good, but not that good… that contract is insane.

theres not a lot of things i wouldnt do to see filip forsberg in a sens jersey

Mar. 10, 2022 at 11:49 p.m.

Borocop

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Quoting: Gmonwy

He isn't good enough to be the 2nd highest paid player per year

Quoting: villenash

Forsberg is good, but not that good… that contract is insane.

is something like 8x10 a little closer

Mar. 10, 2022 at 11:58 p.m.

palhal

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What a way to ruin your team. Overpay a Forsberg in $$$ and term. Ridiculous to spend a first rounder on him also.
Sens are in great position with cap space, to sign guys who want to play for the Sens and not overpay. Teams are cap strapped....heck get Fiala from Minni, cheaper

Mar. 11, 2022 at 12:00 a.m.

Borocop

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Quoting: palhal

been there done that with fiala, could definitely happen though

Mar. 11, 2022 at 12:05 a.m.

palhal

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Quoting: Borocop

been there done that with fiala, could definitely happen though

Getting a 28 year Forsberg on a 8 year deal? Shades of Erik Karlsson. I'm a believer in signing guys who want to play for your team, not guys who only want to play for your team for the money.
Heck Matthew Tkzachuk might be a UFA in 2023...

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Mar. 11, 2022 at 12:06 a.m.

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Borocop

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Quoting: palhal

Mar. 11, 2022 at 12:15 a.m.

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sensibleguy

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Forsberg has a 21.4% shooting percentage this season, he's a career 12.1% prior to this season, it's unsustainable.

He has 131 SOG

21.4% - 28 goals
12.1% - 16 goals

He has 12 more goals than his uaual shooting percentage would create

Are you paying $12MM for 16G 21A in 44 games?

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Mar. 11, 2022 at 8:11 a.m.

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TCMonkey

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I agree with all the above comments on Filip Forsberg. Strangles the rebuild before we even get to see it peak.
We got Anton Forsberg off waivers. I don't see any GM offering him that deal and Ottawa shouldn't either.
Nick Paul is a solid bottom 6 guy, but on a 5 year deal that $$ need to be closer to $2M. I'd go as high as $2.5 on a 4 year deal with zero trade conditions. Otherwise, move him now.

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Mar. 11, 2022 at 8:15 a.m.

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Forsberg should at max be around 9M a year. If that pick is unprotected, I’d be interested as a Nashville fan. If the pick isn’t, then I lose interest because our core rhd group is young and I view a potential top 5 pick as the main return

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Mar. 11, 2022 at 11:11 a.m.

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gmgb

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Quoting: herzausstein

Honestly, I might be happier with a protected pick. Since OTT's 2022 pick will very likely be top 5, that would give NSH an unprotected 2023 1st from the Sens. 2023 is supposed to be a much better draft, and even with Forsberg, I think OTT would still be a lottery team,

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