Stab at Giroux Deal And He Returns

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Created by: bluspy88

Team: 2022-23 Philadelphia Flyers

Initial Creation Date: Mar. 14, 2022

Published: Mar. 14, 2022

Salary Cap Mode: Basic

Description

Hypothetical where Giroux returns after the trade. I think its not likely, but its more possible than some other deals given his reticence to be moved so far. Lets also assume the team would take him back, and that this is the Flyers' "aggressive retool" Fletcher wants to do. I disagree with that strategy, but I want to try to make moves that seem like what he could do. Exception is the Hayes one, this is just an idea spitballed by NRD and some others about IF Hayes wanted to move, what sort of locations would work.

Free Agent Signings

RESERVE LIST	YEARS	CAP HIT
Attard, Ronnie	3	$925,000
Cates, Noah	1	$925,000
Ginning, Adam	2	$925,000
McClennon, Connor	3	$925,000
St. Ivany, Jack	2	$925,000

RFA	YEARS	CAP HIT
Allison, Wade	1	$925,000
Frost, Morgan	1	$925,000
MacEwen, Zack	1	$850,000
Ratcliffe, Isaac	2	$850,000
Sandström, Felix	1	$850,000
Ustimenko, Kirill	1	$850,000
Laczynski, Tanner	1	$925,000
Högberg, Linus	2	$925,000
Vilardi, Gabriel	1	$925,000

UFA		YEARS	CAP HIT
Giroux, Claude		3	$5,500,000
Husso, Ville		2	$2,500,000

Trades

PHI

Barron, Justin
Jost, Tyson
2023 1st round pick (COL)

COL

Giroux 50% at TDL, likely someone else retains for another lower pick after Manson move if Landeskog isn't LTIRed.

PHI

2022 3rd round pick (BOS)

OTT

van Riemsdyk, James

Additional Details:

Draft day move, winger for Stutzle for one year.

PHI

Vilardi, Gabriel [RFA Rights]
Wagner, Austin
2023 2nd round pick (LAK)

Additional Details:

His name has been in a lot of rumors, I wonder if he's sort of lost a spot in the organization after getting Byfield.

LAK

Konecny, Travis
2023 4th round pick (PHI)

Additional Details:

I think the Flyers have soured on Konecny a bit, and LA has been looking to add younger-ish guys like Chychrun. TK is similar to Arvidsson in some ways. Other locations possible.

PHI

Additional Details:

Flyers don't get much value here, but a player who can play in Haula, and Moore as depth/dump.

BOS

Hayes, Kevin ($2,000,000 retained)
2022 3rd round pick (BOS)

Additional Details:

If Bergeron retires or starts to drop, some insurance. One of the few teams I could see him waiving for. Reminds me of Ekman Larsson trade in some ways.

Buyouts

Ilya Bryzgalov: $0

Retained Salary Transactions

Kevin Hayes: $2,000,000 (56%)

Draft	Round 1	Round 2	Round 3	Round 4	Round 5	Round 6	Round 7
2022
2023
2024

ROSTER

LONG-TERM OUTLOOK

EMBED

TEXT-EMBED

ROSTER SIZE	SALARY CAP	CAP HIT	OVERAGES	BONUSES	CAP SPACE
24	$81,500,000	$74,513,166	$295,000	$937,500	$6,986,834

Roster

Left Wing	Centre	Right Wing
Giroux, Claude $5,500,000$5,500,000 RW, C UFA - 3	Couturier, Sean $7,750,000$7,750,000 C NMC UFA - 8	Frost, Morgan $925,000$925,000 C RFA - 1
Farabee, Joel $5,000,000$5,000,000 LW, RW UFA - 6	Laughton, Scott $3,000,000$3,000,000 C, LW UFA - 4	Atkinson, Cam $5,875,000$5,875,000 RW, LW M-NTC UFA - 3
Lindblom, Oskar $2,500,000$2,500,000 LW UFA - 2	Vilardi, Gabriel $925,000$925,000 RW, C RFA - 1	Jost, Tyson $2,000,000$2,000,000 C UFA - 1
Haula, Erik $2,375,000$2,375,000 C, LW UFA - 1	Laczynski, Tanner $925,000$925,000 RW, C UFA - 2	Allison, Wade $925,000$925,000 RW RFA - 2
	Brown, Patrick $750,000$750,000 C, RW UFA - 1

Left Defense	Right Defense	Goaltender
Provorov, Ivan $4,725,000$4,725,000 LD UFA - 3	Ellis, Ryan $6,250,000$6,250,000 RD UFA - 5	Hart, Carter $3,979,000$3,979,000 G RFA - 2
Sanheim, Travis $4,675,000$4,675,000 LD/RD UFA - 1	Barron, Justin $925,000$925,000 ($212,500$212K) RD RFA - 2	Husso, Ville $2,500,000$2,500,000 G UFA - 3
York, Cam $880,833$880,833 ($725,000$725K) LD/RD RFA - 1	Ristolainen, Rasmus $5,100,000$5,100,000 RD UFA - 5
Moore, John $2,750,000$2,750,000 LD UFA - 1

Scratches	Injured Reserve (IR)	Long Term IR (LTIR)
MacEwen, Zack $850,000$850,000 RW, C UFA - 1
Wagner, Austin $1,133,333$1,133,333 RW, LW UFA - 1

Special Teams

Power Play 1
Farabee, J.		Couturier, S.		Atkinson, C.
	Giroux, C.		Ellis, R.

Power Play 2
Frost, M.		Laughton, S.		Jost, T.
	Sanheim, T.		Vilardi, G.

Penalty Kill 1
	Couturier, S.	Atkinson, C.
	Provorov, I.	Ellis, R.

Penalty Kill 2
	Laughton, S.	Lindblom, O.
	Sanheim, T.	Ristolainen, R.

Mar. 14, 2022 at 8:01 p.m.

DirtyDangle

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barron is likely off the table now that hellesons gone. likely olausson, behrens, or ranta+

Mar. 14, 2022 at 8:04 p.m.

Nqutilus

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Barron is not being traded. How about Behrens, Ranta or Kaut, and a 1st?

Mar. 14, 2022 at 8:05 p.m.

bluspy88

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Quoting: Nqutilus

Barron is not being traded. How about Behrens, Ranta or Kaut, and a 1st?

I agree its less likely Barron is going, but those three are absolutey a downgrade and I don't think they settle for that.

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Mar. 14, 2022 at 8:12 p.m.

OldNYIfan

Once a Kings Fan Too

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I would take that deal for Konecny in a heartbeat.

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Mar. 14, 2022 at 8:21 p.m.

Claesson4Norris

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Sens have a better LW for Stützle already. His name is Alex Formenton and he has racecars for feet. They need an impact RW to play on that line, and JVR ain't that

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Mar. 14, 2022 at 9:35 p.m.

griffmeister

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As a Bruins fan, I like the idea of acquiring Hayes. The only thing that troubles me is his contract.

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Mar. 14, 2022 at 9:43 p.m.

bluspy88

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Quoting: griffmeister

As a Bruins fan, I like the idea of acquiring Hayes. The only thing that troubles me is his contract.

Yeah...I tried to make the money work at least for this coming season but long term not sure.

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Mar. 15, 2022 at 12:02 a.m.

palhal

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Giroux is nice but the Avs really don't need a lot for another forward. Besides if Colorado is the only team that Giroux will waive too, Avs, don't have to give up so much. If long time Flyer Giroux wants a Cup run, do you really think the Flyers will deny him, especially if they want to resign this summer?

Mar. 15, 2022 at 12:58 a.m.

Squid17

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Quoting: palhal

Avs do need another forward didn't 92 just have knee surgery? Even if Giroux says he will only go to the Avs that might take a bit of leverage away from Flyers but not too much if Edmonton, Calgary, St Louis start loading up for playoffs and Vegas starts to get healthy. Now they've given up a couple of assets with the Manson trade. Avs don't have a first or second in 2022 draft and Fletcher should get fired if he let's Giroux go for any combination of draft busts like Kaut, Bowers and Yost. I think I would have been ok with Helleson coming back to Flyers with a pick(s) but he is now gone and I have no idea how good Olausson or Behrens are maybe one of those guys in a deal might work. I'm sure Flyers goal is to get Barrons.

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