While maybe there's something here for us to work out for Bertuzzi, I don't think this is it. It seems (just looking at stats) that Beecher hasn't improved while in college (though you're on the right track as we do need a C), and Berglund has recently been demoted to the ECHL so he has no value to us (especially on RD).

The bruins need a center not a winger.

Your explanation for if the bruins get Bertuzzi then Larkin will come to the bruins makes no sense he’s the captain of his hometown team he grew up idolizing why would he ever want to leave? StevieY would also be able to offer more money for him they will have plenty of cap room.

Honestly I don't think you are close in value, I'm not really a fan of Beecher but he does play the position we would probably use Bertuzzi for.

That does not land Bertuzzi. At least one piece going back to Detroit is going to have to hurt and none of these pieces are even close to good enough for Detroit to part with him.

Both are declined pretty quickly.

3rd might get you Braun. Olson and Seny have little to no value.

Bertuzzi starts with a 1st.

Nobody is taking Debrusk without an extension with a paycut in place unless they are giving up little. Debrusk will not be the primary piece of a trade where Boston upgrades. He’d be a secondary piece in that scenario.

Get real here, Bertuzzi > DeBrusk John Beecher at best translates to no more then a 3C/4C/3LW that we already have an overabundance of. And Victor Berglund RD prospect Detroit already has the best LD/RD prospect pool in the league. Honestly if you're going to make an effort on a trade. At least know what our needs are like 2C and top 4 LD. And you can forget about Dylan Larkin ever donning a Bruins jersey. According to Wings insider Max Bultman Yzerman and Larkins agent are already working on a lucrative long term deal possibly in the 8 x $8,500,000 to 8 x $9,000,000 per range. our Captain is absolutely going nowhere.

So much wrong here even after the trade.

Injury concerns? Shot at Larkin? Oilers in the Cup Final?

I don't follow your logic. "Both are declined pretty quickly" but "3rd might get Braun" in a trade that includes a third? Brassard is not worth that much given his season to say the trade is declined quickly even though Braun, the more valuable piece, is worth the third leaving Olson and Senyshyn for Brassard. Olson is himself a recent third-round pick and the top play-maker on one of the best teams in the NCAA - not exactly "little to no value". Senyshyn is just a throw in as he has requested a trade and Philly can give him a look down the stretch before he's a UFA.

As for the Bertuzzi deal, you all may be right that it's not enough. I think that's very possible. However I also think the vaccine issue hurts his value and the return is being underrated. DeBrusk has already said he's willing to sign an extension below his QO, which makes him more valuable to Detroit. The Wings are no longer in the early stages of a rebuild and could use a player in his prime in return for Bertuzzi. If anyone outside of Boston has a good read on Beecher, it's Detroit who watched him play down the road at Michigan the last three years. He's still considered the Bruins' first or second-best center prospect, which is what the Wings need. I personally believe that Beecher has the physical tools to be a late bloomer in the pros and I didn't give him up easily. Berglund is a tough call because I have not been impressed with his progression, but some prospect pundits still like his potential. If bumping up the pick to a second or conditional first (w/ strict conditions) or "upgrading" Beecher to Steen or Studnicka or Berglund to Ahcan, Mast, or Gallagher gets the job done, I would still make the deal.

Bertuzzi missed almost all of last season due to back surgery. Or did you forget? And I covered my bases with all potential Canadian playoff opponents if you're reading carefully.

I admitted that Larkin was a longshot hence the 1% note. Just saying that it doesn't hurt the Bruins chances of signing him, which is absolutely true even if their current odds are slim to none. If that's the biggest sticking point of this mock, you're all just looking for something to scream about lol.

Wings pass, not close to what they would be looking for

Olson does not project to be an NHLer. Beecher projects to be a 4th liner who has produced little offense in college. Debrusk is closer to a detriment than he is an asset at this point. You have no primary piece in the Wings trade ie a 1st or a high end prospect. Just a bunch of meh.

Think you overvalue here.

Ya that doesn't fall under injury concerns haha that's called back surgery. He's healed and quite productive. The vaccine issue will be a distant memory soon.

This trade doesn't even come close.

Oh right, spinal issues are never long-term concerns for professional athletes...

Just writing off Olson because you don't know anything about him is silly. He's a 20-year-old kid with three NCAA seasons under his belt already having a better season than say Karson Kuhlman ever did at UMD. But sure he doesn't project to be an NHLer you say. I'm including him in a deal for Derrick Brassard, a 34-year-old UFA on a definite seller who has been injured for much of the year. Flyers would absolutely take Olson for him and you yourself already said a 3rd gets Braun.

Beecher is also just 20 with three NCAA seasons and has been buried on the Michigan depth chart and dealt with injuries last year. There is still too much unknown to call him fourth line or bust. I'm not alone in maintaining value on him either. He's still considered a top-five Bruins prospect by most.

I'm no DeBrusk fan, but to call him a detriment is not fair. In a regular top-six role in Detroit, who has the cap space to give him a look, he's probably a 20/40 guy. The Wings only have three forwards with over 30 points right now, one of which is Bertuzzi. They could use DeBrusk.

Think you undervalue here.

I know who Olson is, he’s nothing special, will just be a spare part.

Debrusks contract situation is the issue, not his talent.

But the vaccine issue isn't a problem to Detroit so why would they discount him for that reason to another team?

If you were trading DeBrusk for a player Fabbri or Suter then yeah he would be under valuing him but Bertuzzi has been the 2nd best player on the Wings for the last couple of seasons.

I posted this yesterday about Bertuzzi's value:

Bertuzzi is just below a point a game and out of the players who could traded is the best in that group. Yzerman traded Mantha for 1st, a 2nd, Vrana and Panik (who was just there to make the cap work. Bertuzzi is way more consistent and has improved each season. When Mantha was traded his point totals had gone down for the second straight season. I'd like to think Yzerman would want more for Bertuzzi, now I don't see anyone paying that much but I also don't see him being traded.

Detroit is actively trying to trade Bertuzzi, Yzerman said he'd listen to offers. In this situation it would be Boston submitting an offer for Bertuzzi. You are right he had disc replacement surgery and he refuses to get vaxed but both of these things aren't a problem for Detroit. So they aren't going to discount him for those reasons.

I understood what you meant about Larkin and I agree there is less than a 1% he plays for another team. Now if you want to become a Wings fan we will welcome you with open arms.

IDK if "actively" trying to trade him is the right word. I think Yzerman is sitting back and listening to offers but isn't going to budge unless something knocks his socks off.

Bert plays both sides equally well - Debrusk only plays on the left.
Bert scores a point per game - Debrusk half of that.
Bert has a year still on his contract - Debrusk doesn't.

Any discussion for Bert has to start with a direct replacement - like Pasta and then add to make it interesting enough to consider.

I think he meant to say "isn't".

Haha I think you're right.