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Deadline v 1001

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Team: 2021-22 Colorado Avalanche
Initial Creation Date: Mar. 17, 2022
Published: Mar. 17, 2022
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ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES TooltipBONUSESCAP SPACE
22$81,500,000$80,643,963$1,741,463$3,350,000$856,037
Left WingCentreRight Wing
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$3,000,000$3,000,000
LW, RW
UFA - 2
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$6,300,000$6,300,000
C
M-NTC
UFA - 2
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$9,250,000$9,250,000
RW, C
UFA - 4
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$7,000,000$7,000,000
LW, C
NMC
UFA - 8
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$4,500,000$4,500,000
C
M-NTC
UFA - 1
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$4,900,000$4,900,000
RW, LW
UFA - 1
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$2,500,000$2,500,000
RW, LW
UFA - 1
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$3,200,000$3,200,000
RW
UFA - 1
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$908,333$908,333 (Performance Bonus$850,000$850K)
C, LW
RFA - 2
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$725,000$725,000
RW, LW
UFA - 1
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$1,725,000$1,725,000
LW, RW
UFA - 1
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$725,000$725,000
C
UFA - 1
Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
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$5,000,000$5,000,000
LD/RD
UFA - 6
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$9,000,000$9,000,000
RD
UFA - 6
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$3,500,000$3,500,000
G
UFA - 1
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$4,100,000$4,100,000
LD
UFA - 3
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$6,000,000$6,000,000
RD
M-NTC, NMC
UFA - 2
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$2,000,000$2,000,000
G
UFA - 1
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$2,050,000$2,050,000
RD
M-NTC
UFA - 1
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$894,167$894,167 (Performance Bonus$2,500,000$2M)
LD/RD
RFA - 2
ScratchesInjured Reserve (IR)Long Term IR (LTIR)
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$875,000$875,000
LD/RD, LW
UFA - 1
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$750,000$750,000
LD
UFA - 1

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Mar. 17, 2022 at 4:22 p.m.
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I could see something around Compher and Kapanen. Big no on NAK. Dude takes way too many stupid penalties. Don't need that.
Mar. 17, 2022 at 4:22 p.m.
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not in your dreams even.
for timo
Mar. 17, 2022 at 4:35 p.m.
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Yup no Byram or Newhook so that’s gonna be a pretty quick no
Mar. 17, 2022 at 4:50 p.m.
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Yup no Byram or Newhook so that’s gonna be a pretty quick no


Ah the patented bs answer that unless you are trading for an elite 1C is a joke. Meier is a good player but let’s not pretend he is some super star, .66ppg in his career. And getting the equivalent of 3 1st rd picks and 4/5 dman is a haul. But hey SJ can keep him, keep Hertl, keep Vlasic, EK, Burns, Couture and HOPE something changes next year.
Mar. 17, 2022 at 4:59 p.m.
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Ah the patented bs answer that unless you are trading for an elite 1C is a joke. Meier is a good player but let’s not pretend he is some super star, .66ppg in his career. And getting the equivalent of 3 1st rd picks and 4/5 dman is a haul. But hey SJ can keep him, keep Hertl, keep Vlasic, EK, Burns, Couture and HOPE something changes next year.


Yep they can thanks 👍

The only real value here is Barron and that 1st. That’s barely enough to get Hertl let alone Meier who has an extra year and expires an RFA. You have to give quality to get quality. It’s really no more complicated than that.

And by that same logic Meier is way better than Newhook (at a measly 0.45 PPG) and Byram (just 0.35 PPG)
Mar. 17, 2022 at 5:16 p.m.
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Quoting: FunMustBeAlways
Yep they can thanks 👍

The only real value here is Barron and that 1st. That’s barely enough to get Hertl let alone Meier who has an extra year and expires an RFA. You have to give quality to get quality. It’s really no more complicated than that.

And by that same logic Meier is way better than Newhook (at a measly 0.45 PPG) and Byram (just 0.35 PPG)


Are you really comparing the ppg of 2 rookies vs a 6th year player? Olausson also have value and Meier would be like 8-9 best player on the team. Your not getting more than 3 1st round pick for that. Enjoy the basement for year to come smile
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Mar. 17, 2022 at 5:18 p.m.
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Yep they can thanks 👍

The only real value here is Barron and that 1st. That’s barely enough to get Hertl let alone Meier who has an extra year and expires an RFA. You have to give quality to get quality. It’s really no more complicated than that.

And by that same logic Meier is way better than Newhook (at a measly 0.45 PPG) and Byram (just 0.35 PPG)


i think we do this trade. on condition that avalance take Ozzy, Knyzhov, Merkley, Nieto and 2nd for Mackinnon. then it good.
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Mar. 17, 2022 at 5:26 p.m.
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Yep they can thanks 👍

The only real value here is Barron and that 1st. That’s barely enough to get Hertl let alone Meier who has an extra year and expires an RFA. You have to give quality to get quality. It’s really no more complicated than that.

And by that same logic Meier is way better than Newhook (at a measly 0.45 PPG) and Byram (just 0.35 PPG)


Sure you go with that when Newhook has played 51 games and Byram 37. The fact you don’t think Olausson has any value shows you don’t know who he is. But hey roll that old expensive team.
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Mar. 17, 2022 at 5:35 p.m.
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Are you really comparing the ppg of 2 rookies vs a 6th year player? Olausson also have value and Meier would be like 8-9 best player on the team. Your not getting more than 3 1st round pick for that. Enjoy the basement for year to come smile


I am cause the 0.66 PPG argument used to downplay Meier's value is a huge misrepresentation of why he's worth what he is. Olousson isnt that good. Meier would be your 6th best forward immediately at the very least

And I will thanks :-)
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Mar. 17, 2022 at 6:07 p.m.
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Sure you go with that when Newhook has played 51 games and Byram 37. The fact you don’t think Olausson has any value shows you don’t know who he is. But hey roll that old expensive team.


Never said Olausson wasn't valuable but we don't want him in a meier trade cause we're already pretty good at LW. If you want to piss off every GM in the league by trying to trade for guys scoring at a point per game while only offering late round picks and guys picked like 29th overall who have 3rd line ceilings go ahead. Just don't expect great responses.
Mar. 17, 2022 at 7:03 p.m.
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Quoting: AvsFan2119
Are you really comparing the ppg of 2 rookies vs a 6th year player? Olausson also have value and Meier would be like 8-9 best player on the team. Your not getting more than 3 1st round pick for that. Enjoy the basement for year to come smile


in what dream world would a 25 year old power forward with over a PPG this year with awesome underlying stats and solid 2 way playing be your 9th best player??
realistically he would be your 3/4 best player. that said he would easily be 2 1sts and your top prospect.
less quantity more quality please.
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Mar. 17, 2022 at 8:23 p.m.
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Never said Olausson wasn't valuable but we don't want him in a meier trade cause we're already pretty good at LW. If you want to piss off every GM in the league by trying to trade for guys scoring at a point per game while only offering late round picks and guys picked like 29th overall who have 3rd line ceilings go ahead. Just don't expect great responses.


Well works for Sakic and tell me a better GM, and yeah I’ll pass on your assessment of draft picks and ceilings. But hey enjoy all those big contracts and no playoffs. Because not thinking a non play off team can’t use a RD prospect with top 4 potential, on an elc, a top 6 LW prospect on an elc, a 1st rd pick, and a bottom 4 dman is a special kind of peculiar. I wouldn’t do the trade if I was the Avs.
Mar. 17, 2022 at 8:59 p.m.
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Well works for Sakic and tell me a better GM, and yeah I’ll pass on your assessment of draft picks and ceilings. But hey enjoy all those big contracts and no playoffs. Because not thinking a non play off team can’t use a RD prospect with top 4 potential, on an elc, a top 6 LW prospect on an elc, a 1st rd pick, and a bottom 4 dman is a special kind of peculiar. I wouldn’t do the trade if I was the Avs.


well considering meiers ceiling is higher than every one of those players youve listed its not so peculiar but homers gonna homer
Mar. 18, 2022 at 12:18 a.m.
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Sure you go with that when Newhook has played 51 games and Byram 37. The fact you don’t think Olausson has any value shows you don’t know who he is. But hey roll that old expensive team.


If he such a Meh player why are you moving 6 assets for him.
Mar. 18, 2022 at 1:28 a.m.
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in what dream world would a 25 year old power forward with over a PPG this year with awesome underlying stats and solid 2 way playing be your 9th best player??
realistically he would be your 3/4 best player. that said he would easily be 2 1sts and your top prospect.
less quantity more quality please.


First of all 2 1st and top prospect is exactly whats on the table. Top prospect Barron, Olausson is a 1st plus an 1st
Second Avs ranking
1. Makar 2. Mack 3. Rant 4. Landy 5. Toews 6. Kadri (center greater value on the team) 7. Kuemper 8 Meier

Thats where a 2nd line winger on the Avs ranks in the hierarchy. He might be a 1st line player on the sharks but on the avs he's not 3/4 best player on the team. There's not a lot of distance between 4 and 8 I'll give you that but Rant is way ahead of Meier. Wouldn't trade 1 for 1 any of my top 7 for this cup run.
Mar. 18, 2022 at 10:30 a.m.
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well considering meiers ceiling is higher than every one of those players youve listed its not so peculiar but homers gonna homer

That’s you’re opinion and you’re entitled to it but it is insanely disingenuous to say an older expensive non playoff team couldn’t a) use an infusion of young talent and b) is going to say “Nah, we don’t a return of 3 1st rd picks and 2 roster players” you guys are the ultimate homers. Taylor Hall post Hart and pre-covid didn’t return that package. You guys enjoy that old expensive team.
Mar. 18, 2022 at 2:16 p.m.
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First of all 2 1st and top prospect is exactly whats on the table. Top prospect Barron, Olausson is a 1st plus an 1st
Second Avs ranking
1. Makar 2. Mack 3. Rant 4. Landy 5. Toews 6. Kadri (center greater value on the team) 7. Kuemper 8 Meier

Thats where a 2nd line winger on the Avs ranks in the hierarchy. He might be a 1st line player on the sharks but on the avs he's not 3/4 best player on the team. There's not a lot of distance between 4 and 8 I'll give you that but Rant is way ahead of Meier. Wouldn't trade 1 for 1 any of my top 7 for this cup run.


I would disagree with you in regards to Meiers placing on your team. sharks are devoid of wing talent and depth, meaning teams are keying in on their two best players Meier and Hertl. also you taking their numbers with the sharks who are Defensive first minded and lacking talent vs the Avs who are deep and offensive minded. on your team with the depth you have and the fact they would have more talent around them to feed off they would be destroying the league. i would expect Hertl to be a 35 goal 82+ point player on the Avs, and Meier would probably be a 40+ goal 100 point player.
but that takes away from the fact that neither player are a need, if i was Sakic i would be looking for PK help bottom 6 depth and D minded D man and a premier goalie. MAF would be a smart pickup if he would agree to move to colorado.
on the sharks the only two players i think you guys should consider are Nieto and Middleton and even then i don’t think Either help you that much to consider trading for them.
 
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