How does Ken Holland miss on this guy

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Created by: DripBayless

Team: 2021-22 Edmonton Oilers

Initial Creation Date: Mar. 21, 2022

Published: Mar. 21, 2022

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Had he acquired Kahkonen, I would've given him a B. Don't tell me the money wouldn't work. Send Smith down, and have this guy up.

We could've paid a bottom pair dman and a 5th rounder too

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Kähkönen, Kaapo

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Buyouts

James Neal: $1,916,667
Andrej Sekera: $1,500,000

Retained Salary Transactions

Milan Lucic: $750,000 (12.5%)

Draft	Round 1	Round 2	Round 3	Round 4	Round 5	Round 6	Round 7
2022
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ROSTER SIZE	SALARY CAP	CAP HIT	OVERAGES	BONUSES	CAP SPACE
23	$81,500,000	$81,068,164	$669,339	$907,500	$431,836

Left Wing	Centre	Right Wing
Hyman, Zach $5,500,000$5,500,000 RW, LW NMC UFA - 7	McDavid, Connor $12,500,000$12,500,000 C UFA - 5	Kassian, Zack $3,200,000$3,200,000 RW UFA - 3
Foegele, Warren $2,750,000$2,750,000 LW, RW UFA - 3	Draisaitl, Leon $8,500,000$8,500,000 C, LW UFA - 4	Archibald, Josh $1,500,000$1,500,000 RW, LW UFA - 1
Kane, Evander $2,108,696$2,108,696 LW, RW NMC UFA - 1	Ryan, Derek $1,250,000$1,250,000 C, RW UFA - 2	Puljujärvi, Jesse $1,175,000$1,175,000 RW UFA - 1
Shore, Devin $850,000$850,000 LW, C, RW UFA - 2	McLeod, Ryan $834,167$834,167 ($57,500$58K) C RFA - 1	Yamamoto, Kailer $1,175,000$1,175,000 RW RFA - 1
Brassard, Derick $412,500$412,500 C, LW UFA - 1

Left Defense	Right Defense	Goaltender
Nurse, Darnell $5,600,000$5,600,000 LD UFA - 1	Barrie, Tyson $4,500,000$4,500,000 RD UFA - 3	Kähkönen, Kaapo $725,000$725,000 G UFA - 1
Keith, Duncan $5,538,462$5,538,462 LD NMC UFA - 2	Ceci, Cody $3,250,000$3,250,000 RD UFA - 4	Koskinen, Mikko $4,500,000$4,500,000 G M-NTC UFA - 1
Russell, Kris $1,250,000$1,250,000 LD/RD UFA - 1	Bouchard, Evan $863,333$863,333 ($850,000$850K) RD RFA - 2	Smith, Mike $2,200,000$2,200,000 G UFA - 2
Kulak, Brett $925,000$925,000 LD/RD UFA - 1

Scratches	Injured Reserve (IR)	Long Term IR (LTIR)
	Nugent-Hopkins, Ryan $5,125,000$5,125,000 LW, C NMC UFA - 8	Klefbom, Oscar $4,167,000$4,167,000 LD M-NTC UFA - 2
		Turris, Kyle $1,650,000$1,650,000 C, RW UFA - 1

Mar. 21, 2022 at 9:55 p.m.

GMs

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Middleton have played better than any of Oilers bottom pairing dman …

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Mar. 21, 2022 at 9:59 p.m.

Duggysdanglers

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Maybe the Wild don’t want to give a playoff team a G.

Mar. 21, 2022 at 10:01 p.m.

Ross_Johnston

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LOL duncan keith for kahkonen

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Mar. 21, 2022 at 10:02 p.m.

oilersguy

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maybe because MIN called SJS first?

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Mar. 21, 2022 at 10:07 p.m.

DripBayless

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Quoting: GMs

Middleton have played better than any of Oilers bottom pairing dman …

Would much rather pay the 2nd rounder on this guy than Kulak. I'm just saying we could've definitely paid the price and a bit more.

Mar. 21, 2022 at 10:07 p.m.

DripBayless

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Quoting: Duggysdanglers

Maybe the Wild don’t want to give a playoff team a G.

Yea that's probably the only logical reason. But I mean if we had paid a 2nd rounder, I think they woulda looked at that

Mar. 21, 2022 at 10:09 p.m.

SJS2212

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Your bottom pair D-Man should have been out of the NHL 5 years ago (Russell) and your next one is making $5.3 million this year and next, so makes sense why Minnesota would have said no. I can see why you'd be eager to trade a bottom pair guy though since you have 3 of them in Russell, Ceci, and Keith.

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Mar. 21, 2022 at 10:14 p.m.

crankshaft

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Quoting: oilersguy

maybe because MIN called SJS first?

OR. The Oilers bottom pair dmen are total trash? Russel Ceci and Keith are barely NHL quality? All of them cost at least twice as much as Middleton? Honestly, the answers are right in front of you.

Mar. 21, 2022 at 10:20 p.m.

oilersguy

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Quoting: crankshaft

OR. The Oilers bottom pair dmen are total trash? Russel Ceci and Keith are barely NHL quality? All of them cost at least twice as much as Middleton? Honestly, the answers are right in front of you.

it didn't have to be for a bottom pair dman, it could have been for a forward or just picks or something

and Russel is fine as bottom pair dman, he literally has the most blocked shots NHL history

Ceci has been good this year and Keith has been fine

Mar. 21, 2022 at 10:21 p.m.

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oilersguy

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Quoting: SJS2212

it didn't have to be for a bottom pair dman, it could have been for a forward or just picks or something

Mar. 21, 2022 at 10:26 p.m.

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DripBayless

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Quoting: crankshaft

OR. The Oilers bottom pair dmen are total trash? Russel Ceci and Keith are barely NHL quality? All of them cost at least twice as much as Middleton? Honestly, the answers are right in front of you.

Quoting: crankshaft

OR. The Oilers bottom pair dmen are total trash? Russel Ceci and Keith are barely NHL quality? All of them cost at least twice as much as Middleton? Honestly, the answers are right in front of you.

Oilers have 2nd round picks, prospects, etc. etc. I never said for them to take our bottom pair dmen back. Kahkonen makes league min. We coulda fit him in somehow

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Mar. 21, 2022 at 10:27 p.m.

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We will probably trade Reimer or Hill in the offseason and Oilers should be in as they are so cheap

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Mar. 21, 2022 at 10:32 p.m.

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How did Holland not grab Larsson instead of Brassard, they could really use a defensive bottom six center like Larsson
more then whatever Brassard is at this point.

Mar. 21, 2022 at 10:34 p.m.

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crankshaft

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Quoting: DripBayless

Oilers have 2nd round picks, prospects, etc. etc. I never said for them to take our bottom pair dmen back. Kahkonen makes league min. We coulda fit him in somehow

Hill will be available. Same age as Kahkonen, similar potential.

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