How dare you employ Lucic.

Have some pride

CF is smart, Lucic's buyout saves ~750k cap space. You dont want to do it.

Wild decline. Jokiharju is not really a game-changing talent like Fiala is. The swap of picks doesn't offset the huge value difference here.

No, we're not exchanging our #2RD for a third-line forward, which is where he would play with the Kings (behind Arvidsson, Iafallo, Kempe and Moore, and competing for playing time with Grundstrom, Kaliyev and Turcotte).

This season:
Iafallo- 64games, 14g-17a-31pts
Olofsson- 55games, 12g-18a-30pts

So basically, the same season this year, but Olofsson has played 9 less games
And this is a DOWN SEASON for Olofsson

I think your comment that he’d be a 3rd liner is a bot presumptuous

Iafallo is much better imo

Stats don’t lie
This is a typical season for Iafallo
And a down season for Olofsson
He’s playing through injuries & still has better stats
And Olofsson is doing it on a much worse team

Playing forward is about more than scoring, although there's no question that Olofsson has the edge over Iafallo in that regard. Olofsson is easily the worst defensively of all of your forwards, whereas next to Anze Kopitar, Iafallo is our best. All forwards who play on our first and second lines must be defensively responsible. Check out statistics on O-zone and D-zone starts for both. There's a reason why Iafallo gets so much playing time on the penalty kill, and Olofsson gets none.

Stats don't lie, but incomplete stats usually paint a false picture.

"stats dont lie" so mean points? how is Olofsson defensive numbers? "And a down season for Olofsson" he literally at the pace he was last year? do you just talk or do you actually look up his stats?

Olofsson
56gp 13g 19a 32p
55gp 12g 18a 30p
"down year" means 1 less goal and 1 less assist in 1 less game?

Skinner is also on that terrible team he looks like hes having a good year.? seems like that means less than you want it to

I don’t have any idea how they sign Fiala with their cap situation this offseason. Even if they move Dumba….

Me neither. But that doesn't mean that we give Fiala away for free. Reinhart got a 1st and a prospect. That's the bare minimum for Fiala.

Interesting bc ive generally used that as a baseline, but MIN seems like the team that would want young RHD esp if Dumba moves. And they can continue to compete now.

That said I’d gladly pay the Reinhart price

If Dumba moves, Fiala won't move and the other way around. I don't think the Sabres have the right pieces but BUF's 2022 1st (#7 atm, but probably in the 8-10 range in the draft) plus a low-level prospect for Fiala would make sense IMO. I doubt BUF does that, though.

A top6 “scorer” is worth more than a top6 “2way” player
Gotta score to win

Injuries hurt Olofsson last season as well

Skinner is playing on a line with Tuch & Thompson,
obviously that line has clicked & is killing it
Also, they’re all healthy

Scorers are more valuable than 2way players

A top-6 scorer isn't worth more than a top-6 two-way player when their offensive production is similar. Your statement is so generic as to be meaningless. And I think that you severely underestimate the value of defensive qualities.

Moreover, Olofsson is barely a top-6 scorer on your own team. Jeff Skinner and Kyle Okposo have more points this season, and Alex Tuch is scoring at a higher per-game rate and only has fewer points because he's missed half the season. (I'm discounting Tage Thompson and Dylan Cozens because I think that they're primarily centers, although they too have more points than Olofsson.)

There's a reason why six -- SIX! -- Buffalo forwards get more playing time than Olofsson, while the only Kings forward who gets more ice time than Iafallo is Anze Kopitar.

There's a reason why Iafallo has the same number of shorthanded goals and shorthanded points as Alex Ovechkin and Leon Draisaitl. There's a reason why Olofsson has none.

There's a reason why Iafallo's face-off percentage is 50.0% (he's usually the second man in when his center gets tossed) and Olofsson's is zero.

Yeah, Olofsson wouldn't play on either of our two top lines. It's not even close.

hes neither a scorer or a 2 way player..... last 2 years hes a 45p point pace player that is terrible at defense. lets put this into perspective... Bura and Arvidsson are extremely comparable values for your boy Olofsson. He's worth about a 2nd and 3rd.

That's really an interesting, and amusing, misconception.

Olofsson has been playing HURT all year
That’s why he’s gotten less icetime
He’s a 25+ goal scorer if healthy

If u don’t value scoring, that’s fine
But most of the NHL does
Can’t win a game with no goals

And it’s not like Iafallo is Bergeron or Stone with his defensive play
U think he’s better, that’s fine
I disagree
And no matter how long of a reply u type,
I’m not gonna change my mind
Bc u aren’t right 😘😘😘

No, it’s not

Singling out the last 2 years when he’s had injuries is convenient for your point,
but I’ve seen him play when healthy & he’s a legit sniper

Played at a pace of over 30 goals when healthy as a rookie

oh yes!! lets travel back to 2019 when he was literally on pace for exactly 30 goals. Let's ignore the last 2 seasons so we can conveniently glorify him for being pretty good for 1 season.

like i said he's worth maybe a 2nd and 3rd like Bura and Arvidsson. you can pretend like he's this elite 30 goal scorer but nobody is buying that BS

Don’t really care what u think
3 years ago he was healthy
The last 2 years he hasn’t been
If u wanna ignore that, fine by me
Enjoy losing your mind over it

I’m gonna go out & enjoy my day now though,
so bye now

im not losing my mind at all i simply gave you 2 nhl trades that would / are comparable to your boys value. IDC what you think lol either clearly you have limited knowlegde of your own players... like saying this is a down year for him compared to last year or that he was on pace for OVER 30 goals.... neither are correct but hey have a great day maybe look at stat lines before doubling down on stats though.

It’s ok to be wrong, take the L
U earned it after all