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tell me about Liljegren

Created by: NoWah49
Team: 2022-23 Toronto Maple Leafs
Initial Creation Date: Apr. 5, 2022
Published: Apr. 5, 2022
Salary Cap Mode: Basic
Description
is he about to build off of his breakout year/would he be good with Muzzin?
Free Agent Signings
RFAYEARSCAP HIT
1$1,500,000
2$2,125,000
1$900,000
1$900,000
UFAYEARSCAP HIT
1$2,000,000
4$4,000,000
2$2,500,000
Trades
1.
TOR
  1. Beauvillier, Anthony
  2. Mayfield, Scott
Additional Details:
if Risto can have value, so can Muzzin
2.
TOR
  1. 2023 5th round pick (BUF)
3.
TOR
    anywhere
    ARI
    1. Mrázek, Petr
    2. 2024 2nd round pick (TOR)
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    2024
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    21$82,500,000$81,193,116$212,500$0$1,306,884
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    $950,000$950,000
    LW
    UFA - 1
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    $11,640,250$11,640,250
    C
    UFA - 2
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    $10,903,000$10,903,000
    RW
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    UFA - 2
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    $11,000,000$11,000,000
    C, LW
    NMC
    UFA - 3
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    $6,962,366$6,962,366
    RW
    UFA - 2
    $2,500,000$2,500,000
    C, RW
    UFA - 1
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    $3,500,000$3,500,000
    LW, C, RW
    M-NTC
    UFA - 1
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    $2,125,000$2,125,000
    RW
    UFA - 1
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    $900,000$900,000
    RW, LW
    UFA - 1
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    $1,500,000$1,500,000
    C
    UFA - 1
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    $900,000$900,000
    RW, LW
    M-NTC
    UFA - 1
    Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
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    $7,500,000$7,500,000
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    UFA - 8
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    LD/RD
    NTC
    UFA - 2
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    $4,000,000$4,000,000
    G
    UFA - 5
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    $2,000,000$2,000,000
    LD
    UFA - 2
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    $1,500,000$1,500,000
    RD
    RFA - 2
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    $750,000$750,000
    G
    UFA - 1
    Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
    $900,000$900,000
    LD
    UFA - 2
    Logo of the New York Islanders
    $1,450,000$1,450,000
    RD
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    ScratchesInjured Reserve (IR)Long Term IR (LTIR)
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    LW, C
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    Apr. 5, 2022 at 3:14 p.m.
    #101
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    Quoting: Isles5513
    They wanted Chara to break the games played record as an Islander. Honestly they should’ve tried to acquire Oleksiak’s UFA Rights and sign him rather than keep Palmieri.


    100% - isles threw the season away because of Chara.
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    Apr. 5, 2022 at 3:14 p.m.
    #102
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    Quoting: Db1899
    I don't even want them to make the playoffs lol - Trotz and Chara don't deserve it.


    At the end of the day they can probably get to the playoffs if they can fix the left side of their defense. A lot of their wings are overpaid but are still somewhat productive. Biggest issue is that without Leddy and Toews the teams zone entry and exit stats have cratered.
    Apr. 5, 2022 at 3:14 p.m.
    #103
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    Quoting: Logan_Ollivier
    You didn't but you are suggesting he should get paid big money, why? Because it's damaging to the leafs


    Once again, show me where I said he should be getting paid big money.

    Also, just curious as to how getting in a three page battle with a couple islanders fans defending Jake muzzin fits in your narrative as to how I’m a leafs troll.
    Apr. 5, 2022 at 3:15 p.m.
    #104
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    Quoting: Db1899
    I agree, Isles fans just like Bailey because he's been with the team for a while. I would be thrilled if the isles could pay a 3rd rd pick to move Bailey. I would even consider flipping him straight up for Muzzin tears of joy


    I don’t think they should at this point. They just need to have a Major League style cut out in the locker room that says “Playoffs or we trade Josh.” Rest of the team will rally after that lol.
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    Apr. 5, 2022 at 3:17 p.m.
    #105
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    Quoting: Isles5513
    I don’t think they should at this point. They just need to have a Major League style cut out in the locker room that says “Playoffs or we trade Josh.” Rest of the team will rally after that lol.


    I’m assuming you remember the cardboard cut of the owner in that movie lol.
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    Apr. 5, 2022 at 3:17 p.m.
    #106
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    Quoting: CMcAvoy73
    Show me where I suggested he should get paid big money.


    This is what you do, you infer stuff just to get Leaf fans riled up and then pretend you didn't do that. You are transparent bud.
    Apr. 5, 2022 at 3:18 p.m.
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    Quoting: Isles5513
    At the end of the day they can probably get to the playoffs if they can fix the left side of their defense. A lot of their wings are overpaid but are still somewhat productive. Biggest issue is that without Leddy and Toews the teams zone entry and exit stats have cratered.


    Somehow Leddy has been worse than Chara this season. The Isles with the Pelech-Pulock pair on the ice are great at entering the zone with possession, but Trotz had to break it up to accommodate Chara
    Apr. 5, 2022 at 3:19 p.m.
    #108
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    Quoting: Db1899
    He is though, he can barely pivot. There's a reason why Muzzin is on the ice for more goals against per 60 than any other Leafs defenseman


    Small sample sizes mean everything eh?
    Apr. 5, 2022 at 3:19 p.m.
    #109
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    Quoting: Isles5513
    I don’t think they should at this point. They just need to have a Major League style cut out in the locker room that says “Playoffs or we trade Josh.” Rest of the team will rally after that lol.


    Let’s all settle down for a second. Watch the video below and pretend the cut out is off Josh Bailey. Isles get so hyped up they four five in a row 😂

    https://youtu.be/kBwZymjomvU
    Apr. 5, 2022 at 3:19 p.m.
    #110
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    Quoting: oliver_wahlstrom
    playing a dozen games with our terrible AHL team, 13 game road trip and a plethora of injuries. also playing Josh Bailey, Mat Martin, Zdeno Chara, Andy Greene and Cal Clutterbuck so much is also why.


    Excuses excuses,
    Apr. 5, 2022 at 3:20 p.m.
    #111
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    Quoting: Db1899
    Somehow Leddy has been worse than Chara this season. The Isles with the Pelech-Pulock pair on the ice are great at entering the zone with possession, but Trotz had to break it up to accommodate Chara


    These player cards aren’t the best. The Athletic has Greene’s value at 2 million lmao.
    Apr. 5, 2022 at 3:20 p.m.
    #112
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    Quoting: Logan_Ollivier
    Small sample sizes mean everything eh?


    41 games is a pretty big sample size lol
    Apr. 5, 2022 at 3:21 p.m.
    #113
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    Quoting: Isles5513
    Honestly they aren’t a playoff team cause of Chara and Greene. If they had used Salo all year I think it would’ve been a different story. Not saying he’s a world beater but he’s respectable.


    They aren't a playoff team because your roster is old and slow and your luck ran out.
    Apr. 5, 2022 at 3:21 p.m.
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    Quoting: Isles5513
    These player cards aren’t the best. The Athletic has Greene’s value at 2 million lmao.


    I don't like Dom's player cards - they don't do a great job at isolating a players impact. I use Evolving Hockey
    Apr. 5, 2022 at 3:21 p.m.
    #115
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    Quoting: Logan_Ollivier
    Excuses excuses,


    I mean it obviously hurt them. That being said you shouldn’t make the playoffs with Chara and Greene anyway. You can’t reward bad behavior lol
    Apr. 5, 2022 at 3:22 p.m.
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    Quoting: Logan_Ollivier
    This is what you do, you infer stuff just to get Leaf fans riled up and then pretend you didn't do that. You are transparent bud.


    I merely pointed out the notion that good players get paid. Do you disagree with that?

    Again, just curious as to how this thread, and me arguing that Jake muzzin is actually a solid player fits with this little poor, defensive narrative you’ve created.
    Apr. 5, 2022 at 3:22 p.m.
    #117
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    Quoting: Db1899
    You're right, Muzzin was an elite top pair D in his prime - but now age + injuries have caught up to him. He's the new Vlasic.

    What do the islanders have to do with this? lol don't be salty because Dubas gave 6 mill to a now washed up defenseman.


    Hey look Islander fans hoping with all their might that Dubas messed up so they can feel better about JT leaving and missing the playoffs. Pathetic
    Apr. 5, 2022 at 3:22 p.m.
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    Quoting: Logan_Ollivier
    They aren't a playoff team because your roster is old and slow and your luck ran out.


    speaking of old and slow - how many years left on this contract??
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    Apr. 5, 2022 at 3:23 p.m.
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    Quoting: Logan_Ollivier
    They aren't a playoff team because your roster is old and slow and your luck ran out.


    They are way too old at wing. That being said Palmieri and Parise are surprisingly quick lol. It’s weird af.
    Apr. 5, 2022 at 3:24 p.m.
    #120
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    Quoting: Logan_Ollivier
    Hey look Islander fans hoping with all their might that Dubas messed up so they can feel better about JT leaving and missing the playoffs. Pathetic


    I don’t think he messed up by signing Tavares lmao. Every fan with half a brain knew he had one foot out the door but ownership wouldn’t let Garth Snow trade him.
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    Apr. 5, 2022 at 3:24 p.m.
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    Quoting: Logan_Ollivier
    Hey look Islander fans hoping with all their might that Dubas messed up so they can feel better about JT leaving and missing the playoffs. Pathetic


    If Dubas could get out of Tavares contract right now, he'd do it in a heartbeat lol
    Apr. 5, 2022 at 3:25 p.m.
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    Quoting: Db1899
    41 games is a pretty big sample size lol


    Yes it is a small sample size when you ignore the rest of his career. I can't wait to see him finish strong and then hear you fools yell till your blue in the face why TO has no chance and all their players suck
    Apr. 5, 2022 at 3:26 p.m.
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    Quoting: Logan_Ollivier
    Hey look Islander fans hoping with all their might that Dubas messed up so they can feel better about JT leaving and missing the playoffs. Pathetic


    I’m not gonna lie and say it didn’t suck when it happened, but John Tavares is the reason I love hockey. At the end of the day that’s more important to me.
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    Apr. 5, 2022 at 3:26 p.m.
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    Quoting: Logan_Ollivier
    Yes it is a small sample size when you ignore the rest of his career. I can't wait to see him finish strong and then hear you fools yell till your blue in the face why TO has no chance and all their players suck


    You keep contradicting yourself, you're talking about old and slow but that's the reason why Muzzin sucks right now. Father Time is undefeated. Muzzin fell off a cliff, he's not improving at 34 years old lol
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    Apr. 5, 2022 at 3:27 p.m.
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    Quoting: Logan_Ollivier
    Yes it is a small sample size when you ignore the rest of his career. I can't wait to see him finish strong and then hear you fools yell till your blue in the face why TO has no chance and all their players suck


    They have a chance but it’s gonna be tough to get past Florida if Ekblad gets healthy.
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