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Created by: RoyBoy

Team: 2022-23 Vegas Golden Knights

Initial Creation Date: Apr. 17, 2022

Published: Apr. 17, 2022

Salary Cap Mode: Basic

Description

Explaining moves:

RFAs:
Those that aren’t traded are re-signed. This ACGM isn’t really focused on the AHL team

UFAs:

Dustin Brown- Brings a physical aspect to this team and can still provide some offense. He takes a cheap deal to try to win another cup

Sam Lafferty- Cheap deal to be an extra forward

Pheonix Copley- Good #3 option for cheap and could be a backup if Thompson isn’t ready

Trades:

1) Detroit gets a young forward Vegas can’t afford by sending a player that isn’t as valuable, but has salary retained to help Vegas’ cap situation

2) Los Angeles gets Martinez back as a valuable defender, and also takes on Dadonov for free (again, gaining valuable assets for cheap due to salary cap).

3) Same situation here. Buffalo gets a goalie since they may need one. If they don’t see Brossoit as valuable, they can waive him or buy him out. Nolan Patrick is a player that’s had injury issues, but could be valuable, hence why they take a chance on him and taking on Brossoit for free.

4) New Jersey gets a young center that is familiar with the New York area in Howden, as well as a great bottom-6 forward in Kolesar. Vegas can’t afford them, so they get assets for them.

Free Agent Signings

RFA	YEARS	CAP HIT
Dugan, Jack	1	$750,000
Ferguson, Dylan	1	$750,000
Hague, Nicolas	2	$2,500,000
Jones, Benjamin	1	$750,000
Leschyshyn, Jake	1	$750,000
Miromanov, Daniil	1	$750,000
Pachal, Brayden	1	$750,000
Røndbjerg, Jonas	1	$750,000

UFA	YEARS	CAP HIT
Smith, Reilly	4	$5,000,000
Brown, Dustin	1	$750,000
Lafferty, Sam	1	$750,000
Copley, Pheonix	1	$750,000

Trades

VGK

Suter, Pius ($1,625,000 retained)

DET

Roy, Nicolas [RFA Rights]

VGK

Future considerations

LAK

VGK

Future considerations

BUF

VGK

2022 4th round pick (NJD)
2023 2nd round pick (NJD)

NJD

Howden, Brett [RFA Rights]
Kolesar, Keegan [RFA Rights]

Draft	Round 1	Round 2	Round 3	Round 4	Round 5	Round 6	Round 7
2022
2023
2024

ROSTER

LONG-TERM OUTLOOK

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ROSTER SIZE	SALARY CAP	CAP HIT	OVERAGES	BONUSES	CAP SPACE
23	$81,500,000	$81,416,667	$0	$0	$83,333

Left Wing	Centre	Right Wing
Pacioretty, Max $7,000,000$7,000,000 LW M-NTC UFA - 1	Eichel, Jack $10,000,000$10,000,000 C NMC UFA - 4	Stone, Mark $9,500,000$9,500,000 RW NMC UFA - 5
Marchessault, Jonathan $5,000,000$5,000,000 RW, LW M-NTC UFA - 2	Karlsson, William $5,900,000$5,900,000 C M-NTC UFA - 5	Smith, Reilly $5,000,000$5,000,000 LW, RW UFA - 3
Suter, Pius $1,625,000$1,625,000 C, LW UFA - 1	Stephenson, Chandler $2,750,000$2,750,000 C, LW UFA - 2	Brown, Dustin $750,000$750,000 RW, LW UFA
Carrier, William $1,400,000$1,400,000 LW UFA - 2		Amadio, Michael $762,500$762,500 RW, LW UFA - 2
	Leschyshyn, Jake $750,000$750,000 C RFA - 3

Left Defense	Right Defense	Goaltender
	Pietrangelo, Alex $8,800,000$8,800,000 RD NMC UFA - 5	Lehner, Robin $5,000,000$5,000,000 G M-NTC UFA - 3
Theodore, Shea $5,200,000$5,200,000 LD/RD UFA - 3	Whitecloud, Zach $2,750,000$2,750,000 RD UFA - 6	Thompson, Logan $766,667$766,667 G UFA - 3
McNabb, Brayden $2,850,000$2,850,000 LD M-NTC UFA - 3	Coghlan, Dylan $762,500$762,500 RD RFA - 1
Hague, Nicolas $2,500,000$2,500,000 LD RFA - 3

Scratches	Injured Reserve (IR)	Long Term IR (LTIR)
Lafferty, Sam $750,000$750,000 RW, C, LW UFA - 2
Røndbjerg, Jonas $750,000$750,000 LW, RW RFA - 3
Hutton, Ben $850,000$850,000 LD UFA - 2

Apr. 17, 2022 at 7:38 p.m.

MoreHitzSeider

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Detroit accepts

Apr. 17, 2022 at 7:40 p.m.

RoyBoy

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Quoting: MoreHitzSeider

Detroit accepts

You see the value as fair?

Apr. 17, 2022 at 7:45 p.m.

MoreHitzSeider

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Quoting: RoyBoy

You see the value as fair?

You offered it. Roy is 6'4, 205 lbs. Suter is 5'11, 174 lbs. Both are 25 years old. Roy has 2 more points. I'm all for the Red Wings being tougher to play against.

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Apr. 17, 2022 at 7:57 p.m.

Billy12Bob

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Quoting: MoreHitzSeider

You offered it. Roy is 6'4, 205 lbs. Suter is 5'11, 174 lbs. Both are 25 years old. Roy has 2 more points. I'm all for the Red Wings being tougher to play against.

Suter scores 1.59 points per 60
Roy scores 1.56 PP60

Suter has 2.06 takeaways per 60
Roy has 1.42

Suter has 1.41 giveaways per 60
Roy has 1.88

Suter's faceoff percentage is 50.0
Roy's is 49.0

This is a downtrade in every way.

Apr. 17, 2022 at 7:58 p.m.

MoreHitzSeider

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Quoting: Billy12Bob

I'd still take Roy. I doubt Vegas makes this trade anyway.

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Apr. 17, 2022 at 8:01 p.m.

JackForHart

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Apr. 17, 2022 at 8:04 p.m.

Redstinger

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I'd take it. Rather not retain on suter though.

Apr. 17, 2022 at 8:10 p.m.

Billy12Bob

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Quoting: MoreHitzSeider

I'd still take Roy. I doubt Vegas makes this trade anyway.

If you want Detroit to be harder to play against why are you trading away the player on the team with most takeaways of all?
Suter has the largest positive TA/GA difference of everybody on the team and you want to swap him for one with a negative TA/GA diff. And you want to reatain salary on top of it. That doesn't make any sense at all.

Apr. 17, 2022 at 8:12 p.m.

MoreHitzSeider

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Quoting: Billy12Bob

I'm not a fan of Suter.

Apr. 17, 2022 at 8:13 p.m.

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Quoting: RoyBoy

You see the value as fair?

It's not great for Vegas, they could likely do better. Would love this as a Wings fan tho b/c I think Suter sucks ass

Apr. 17, 2022 at 8:19 p.m.

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Billy12Bob

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Quoting: MoreHitzSeider

I'm not a fan of Suter.

That doesn't mean you have to pay to trade down to someone who's objectively worse in almost every metric.

Suter is 1st on the team in takeaways/60
Suter is 1st on the team in ta/ga diff/60
Suter is 2nd on the team in faceoff%
Suter is 6th on the team in scoring/60

The only metric where he isn't top is in hitting and shotblocking. Is that why you don't like him?

Apr. 17, 2022 at 8:27 p.m.

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MoreHitzSeider

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Quoting: Billy12Bob

Analytics is part of the story. Not all of the story. Given the makeup of the current Red Wings team, Roy would make this team more balanced with his size. He's also much stronger than Suter is. Suter is a bit more skilled but not by much. And I'll definitely take the more physical player. We have enough skill guys coming up.

Apr. 17, 2022 at 8:27 p.m.

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Jfstompers

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I would do the trade for Roy but I think it depends if Detroit upgrades at center 1st. Like if they add trocheck then you move suter for Roy and put him a big winger on the right in your top 6.

Apr. 17, 2022 at 8:29 p.m.

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Can't see DB signing a cheap deal with Vegas to chase a Cup -- he's already got 2. I sincerely doubt he goes to a direct rival of the team he's played for his entire career.

My bet is he either signs a cheap deal like that to stay in LA, or retires if LA doesn't offer him something. We'll see though.

Apr. 17, 2022 at 8:30 p.m.

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MoreHitzSeider

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Quoting: Jfstompers

I would do the trade for Roy but I think it depends if Detroit upgrades at center 1st. Like if they add trocheck then you move suter for Roy and put him a big winger on the right in your top 6.

Yes. Roy can also play LW or RW. I'd offer Trochek 5 years/6 mil AAV to play 2C.

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Apr. 17, 2022 at 8:34 p.m.

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The devils should not make this trade. The devils should trade for/offersheet Nic Hague instead.

Apr. 18, 2022 at 8:20 a.m.

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Edited Apr. 18, 2022 at 8:26 a.m.

Brossoit, and Patrick for Future Considerations? If I were the Sabres GM, I would do that deal!
Brossoit has up then down seasons:
Seasson..GP......GAA........SV%.........Team
2014-15...1......1.99....0.961.......Edmonton Oilers
2015-16...5......3.61....0.873.......Edmonton Oilers
2016-17...8......1.99....0.928.......Edmonton Oilers
2017-18..14......3.24....0.883.......Edmonton Oilers
2018-19..21......2.52....0.925.......Winnipeg Jets
2019-20..19......3.28....0.895.......Winnipeg Jets
2020-21..14......2.42....0.918.......Winnipeg Jets
2021-22..24......2.9......0.895........Vegas Golden Knights
2022-23..41......2.42....0.923.......Buffalo Sabres laugh

He could be in line to a comeback season.
Patrick was selected second over all in 2017 and he may bounce back as well.

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Apr. 18, 2022 at 5:23 p.m.

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RoyBoy

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Quoting: gretzkyghosts

He could be in line to a comeback season.
Patrick was selected second over all in 2017 and he may bounce back as well.

Vegas views cap space more valuable than Brossoit’s potential struggles and Patrick’s injury proneness. Hope they work out tho

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