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2021-2022 NHL Playoffs Discussion Thread #3 - SE7EN

May 14, 2022 at 11:37 p.m.
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Rielly was fine, 3 goals 3 assists in 7 games. What they do need to find though is a proper partner for him. Lybushkin worked but we need a true RD for him


See I thought this way too until we got Heiskanen.
May 14, 2022 at 11:39 p.m.
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hes been a sub .900 goalie since december. leafs cant win with that type of goaltending


You realize he was playing hurt right. After Greenway ran him over he injured his rib

Of course his numbers dropped

But since returning from that injury he was much better.
May 14, 2022 at 11:40 p.m.
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hes been a sub .900 goalie since december. leafs cant win with that type of goaltending


I wouldnt put this lose on Campbell he played great and the Leafs hung him out to dry in Tampa and in most of their wins they won off his play.
Not a stat line worth reading. Vasi just the same - stat line didnt matter, he closed the door in Game 7.
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May 14, 2022 at 11:40 p.m.
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You realize he was playing hurt right

Pls check before posting


so? who were the leafs other options. that's on dubas.
May 14, 2022 at 11:41 p.m.
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so? who were the leafs other options. that's on dubas.


Well they had Mrazek but isn't he injured though?

At least he addressed the issue. Unbeknownst to him he actually created another one.
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May 14, 2022 at 11:42 p.m.
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I wouldnt put this lose on Campbell he played great and the Leafs hung him out to dry in Tampa and in most of their wins they won off his play.
Not a stat line worth reading. Vasi just the same - stat line didnt matter, he closed the door in Game 7.


Yep. Quick is also below 90 in this EDM series, but I don't think anyone can say he's been bad.
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May 14, 2022 at 11:42 p.m.
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so? who were the leafs other options. that's on dubas.


Nobody at the TDL was an upgrade over a healthy Campbell

Heck if Mrazek could have stayed healthy that was another option as he was starting to get his act together and putting up good numbers to.
May 14, 2022 at 11:43 p.m.
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Leafs need more grit


We’ll even through in a 7th rounder if you want.
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May 14, 2022 at 11:44 p.m.
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Well they had Mrazek but isn't he injured though?

At least he addressed the issue. Unbeknownst to him he actually created another one.


right. he went into the playoffs with two injured and under performing goalies and no plan b
May 14, 2022 at 11:44 p.m.
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Well they had Mrazek but isn't he injured though?

At least he addressed the issue. Unbeknownst to him he actually created another one.


He hurt his groin which was a shame as he was getting his act back together putting up good numbers against NJ and Florida
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May 14, 2022 at 11:45 p.m.
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right. he went into the playoffs with two injured and under performing goalies and no plan b


You know what that's called? Bad luck.

Ask Avs fans how it feels when they had Grubauer and Francouz injured against Dallas in 2020. They know.

Their plan b was f*cking Hutchinson.
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May 14, 2022 at 11:48 p.m.
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right. he went into the playoffs with two injured and under performing goalies and no plan b


Campbell wasnt hurt though till game 7 but it wasnt bad enough to where he couldn't play. Campbell's injury time line was somewhere between Late December or January and X-Rays discovered something in March.

Once he returned in April his numbers improved

And Kallgren did fine in his one relief role technically getting a shutout lul
May 14, 2022 at 11:48 p.m.
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You know what that's called? Bad luck.

Ask Avs fans how it feels when they had Grubauer and Francouz injured against Dallas in 2020. They know.

Their plan b was f*cking Hutchinson.


To add here, actually Dubas did adress the issue. He signed Olympic winner Harri Säteri. Granted he got claimed off waivers but regardless he did pretty much anything he could have done.
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May 14, 2022 at 11:49 p.m.
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You know what that's called? Bad luck.

Ask Avs fans how it feels when they had Grubauer and Francouz injured against Dallas in 2020. They know.

Their plan b was f*cking Hutchinson.


it's not bad luck when it's been that way since december, it's bad planning.

avs goalie injuries didnt happen until the playoffs had already started. so not really comparable
May 14, 2022 at 11:50 p.m.
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it's not bad luck when it's been that way since december, it's bad planning.

avs goalie injuries didnt happen until the playoffs had already started. so not really comparable


Campbell wasn't injured when the playoffs started. He had a rib injury he healed from but it obviously still took some toll on him. That's what injuries tend to do.

Ultimately blaming this on goaltending is stupid and a false narrative. That was not the reason they lost in this series.
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May 14, 2022 at 11:51 p.m.
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the shots are 35-17 Oilers, crazy
May 14, 2022 at 11:52 p.m.
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the shots are 35-17 Oilers, crazy


Offensive zone time 13mins Oilers, 5mins Kings.

The fact Oilers had to go Game 7 against opponent this much below them in terms of level is almost pathetic to me.
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May 14, 2022 at 11:55 p.m.
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See I thought this way too until we got Heiskanen.


Well depending on how training camp goes Niemela could be the next guy up like Liligren

As man was Niemela so close to tying his Liiga record for PPG and looked so good this year
May 14, 2022 at 11:55 p.m.
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Offensive zone time 13mins Oilers, 5mins Kings.

The fact Oilers had to go Game 7 against opponent this much below them in terms of level is almost pathetic to me.


it is a mix of Quick and the Oilers playing down to their opponent
May 14, 2022 at 11:56 p.m.
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Campbell wasn't injured when the playoffs started. He had a rib injury he healed from but it obviously still took some toll on him. That's what injuries tend to do.

Ultimately blaming this on goaltending is stupid and a false narrative. That was not the reason they lost in this series.


campbell missed time earlier in the season with a rib injury and never looked good since december. and mrazek may as well have missed the season.

lol sub .900 goaltending will kill you in the playoffs. especially if you build your team forward heavy like the leafs.
May 14, 2022 at 11:56 p.m.
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Well depending on how training camp goes Niemela could be the next guy up like Liligren


I don't think they belong in this discussion. Especially if Liljegren is below Holl in your depth chart, based on their latest lineup.
May 14, 2022 at 11:58 p.m.
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campbell missed time earlier in the season with a rib injury and never looked good since december. and mrazek may as well have missed the season.

lol sub .900 goaltending will kill you in the playoffs. especially if you build your team forward heavy like the leafs.


Normally I'd agree with you but after watching all of the games I can't say goaltending was an issue for Leafs. Campbell took just about every save he could've.

And btw Vasy's sv percentage was below .89 so I suppose he was trash as well.
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May 14, 2022 at 11:58 p.m.
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I don't think they belong in this discussion. Especially if Liljegren is below Holl in your depth chart, based on their latest lineup.


Holl was in mainly for the penalty killing. As Liligren still has work to do and I believe he got hurt in game 3 or something

But come next season a healthy Sandin-Liligren pairing is gonna be fun to watch

To me depending on how things go Niemela might play with Muzzin next season. As Niemela is a puck moving D and allows Brodie to play with Rielly once again

But that all depends on how he does out of training camp. Excited to watch him though as man can this kid play
May 14, 2022 at 11:59 p.m.
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Holl was in mainly for the penalty killing. As Liligren still has work to do and I believe he got hurt in game 3 or something

But come next season a healthy Sandin-Liligren pairing is gonna be fun to watch


Assuming no one offer sheets Liljegren.

Hoping DAL gives him $4M x 5. Can't see TOR matching this.
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May 15, 2022 at 12:00 a.m.
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Normally I'd agree with you but after watching all of the games I can't say goaltending was an issue for Leafs. Campbell took just about every save he could've.

And btw Vasy's sv percentage was below .89 so I suppose he was trash as well.


yea he was. vasy needs to be better if he wants to make it out of round 2.
 
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