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If Johnny hockey leaves and Tkachuk wont sign

Created by: Mediumyeet
Initial Creation Date: May 17, 2022
Published: May 17, 2022
Team: 2022-23 Calgary Flames
Free Agent Signings
RFAYEARSCAP HIT
Kylington, Oliver2$3,500,000
Mangiapane, Andrew5$4,950,000
UFAYEARSCAP HIT
Forsberg, Filip7$8,250,000
Gudbranson, Erik3$2,000,000
Lazar, Curtis3$1,250,000
Trades
1.
CGY
  1. Pinto, Shane
  2. Thomson, Lassi
  3. Brown, Connor
  4. 2022 1st round pick (OTT)
OTT
  1. Tkachuk, Matthew [RFA Rights]
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2023
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2024
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ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES TooltipBONUSESCAP SPACE
22$82,500,000$81,776,666$0$1,025,000$723,334
Left WingCenterRight Wing
Forsberg, Filip
$8,250,000
LW
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Lindholm, Elias
$4,850,000
C, RW
UFA - 2
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Toffoli, Tyler
$4,250,000
RW, LW
UFA - 2
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Mangiapane, Andrew
$4,950,000
LW, RW
RFA
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Backlund, Mikael
$5,350,000
C
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UFA - 2
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Brown, Connor
$3,600,000
LW, RW
UFA - 1
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Coleman, Blake
$4,900,000
LW, RW
NTC
UFA - 5
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Pinto, Shane
$925,000
C
RFA - 1
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Dubé, Dillon
$2,300,000
LW, RW
RFA - 2
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Lucic, Milan
$5,250,000
LW
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UFA - 1
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Monahan, Sean
$6,375,000
C
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UFA - 1
Lazar, Curtis
$1,250,000
C, RW
UFA
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Pelletier, Jakob
$863,333
LW
RFA - 2
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Hanifin, Noah
$4,950,000
LD
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UFA - 2
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Andersson, Rasmus
$4,550,000
RD
UFA - 4
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Markström, Jacob
$6,000,000
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UFA - 4
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Kylington, Oliver
$3,500,000
LD/RD
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Tanev, Christopher
$4,500,000
RD
NTC
UFA - 2
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Vladar, Daniel
$750,000
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RFA - 1
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Välimäki, Juuso
$1,550,000
LD
RFA - 1
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Gudbranson, Erik
$2,000,000
RD
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Thomson, Lassi
$863,333
RD
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May 17 at 7:54 p.m.
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dickie boon
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tkachuk will sign but if this happens, he might be worth more
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May 17 at 7:56 p.m.
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If Forsberg would sign that he wouldn't leave Nashville
May 17 at 7:56 p.m.
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Do Not Draft Geekie
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well that would suck wouldn't it
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May 17 at 7:57 p.m.
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Tell me a line of Norris and both Tkachuks would not be dominant. I would love to see the Tkachuks reunited, but I don’t know if Matthew would go for Ottawa. Who knows, weirder things have happened.
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May 17 at 7:59 p.m.
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I think Tkachuk probably get more no? Unless you really believe in pinto. I'd think they try a swap with another superstar player (similar to the laine/Dubois deal).
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May 17 at 8:01 p.m.
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I'd def take it if I was Ott, but I think Calgary would want more than that for him.
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May 17 at 8:03 p.m.
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Quoting: evelutions2
Tell me a line of Norris and both Tkachuks would not be dominant. I would love to see the Tkachuks reunited, but I don’t know if Matthew would go for Ottawa. Who knows, weirder things have happened.


How many 8+ mill contracts can ottawa afford.
May 17 at 8:03 p.m.
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I think Tkachuk probably get more no? Unless you really believe in pinto. I'd think they try a swap with another superstar player (similar to the laine/Dubois deal).


I’m very very high on pinto
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May 17 at 10:26 p.m.
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Quoting: dickie_boon
tkachuk will sign but if this happens, he might be worth more


Quoting: AndrewPawlack
well that would suck wouldn't it


Quoting: evelutions2
Tell me a line of Norris and both Tkachuks would not be dominant. I would love to see the Tkachuks reunited, but I don’t know if Matthew would go for Ottawa. Who knows, weirder things have happened.


I agree that he likely re-signs but in the event he doesn't I could see him going to Ottawa to join Brady. They are obviously super close and that Ottawa team looks like they will be good for a long time (especially if they add Matthew) The other team I would guess is him going back home to St Louis which would also be a great fit going forward with Thomas and Kyrou.

The package could definitely be different though (Norris, Brady, Stutzle, Batherson, Chabot, Sanderson are untouchables but I'm sure everyone else would be on the table). I tried to pick some guys that would fit Daryl Sutter's style and keep Calgary competitive.
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May 18 at 1:18 p.m.
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Quoting: dickie_boon
tkachuk will sign but if this happens, he might be worth more


Quoting: In_it_to_winnik
I think Tkachuk probably get more no? Unless you really believe in pinto. I'd think they try a swap with another superstar player (similar to the laine/Dubois deal).


Quoting: OMGKenny666
I'd def take it if I was Ott, but I think Calgary would want more than that for him.


Quoting: Mediumyeet
I agree that he likely re-signs but in the event he doesn't I could see him going to Ottawa to join Brady. They are obviously super close and that Ottawa team looks like they will be good for a long time (especially if they add Matthew) The other team I would guess is him going back home to St Louis which would also be a great fit going forward with Thomas and Kyrou.

The package could definitely be different though (Norris, Brady, Stutzle, Batherson, Chabot, Sanderson are untouchables but I'm sure everyone else would be on the table). I tried to pick some guys that would fit Daryl Sutter's style and keep Calgary competitive.


I think you guys are under-estimating this package...

2022 1st round pick (OTT) : this is the 7th OA pick. At least ONE of David Jiricek, Matthew Savoie or Joakim Kemell will be available

Pinto, Shane : blue chip prospect, very HIGH FLOOR. He has a defensive awareness that you rarely see in a prospect. This guy could very well be a perennial Selke contender. I wouldn't trade him for a pick but let's say I would, it would absolutely need to be a Top-10 pick

Brown, Connor : based on Coleman/Lehkonen/Copp returns, Brown is worth a 1st and a prospect. Connor Brown has paced for 50+ pts for 3 straight seasons despite being mostly used as a MATCHUP forward (87% of his overall production in Ottawa came at ES or PK)

Thomson, Lassi : 1st round pick in 2019, it wasn't clear why for a while but since he came over to NA, we understood why they were high on him, worth another 1st round pick

Two Top-10 picks, two first round picks and a prospect...

I mean, how many players are worth that?

I'd be ready to give 2022 1st round pick (OTT), Ridly Greig, Erik Brannstrom, Filip Gustavsson, 2nd round pick (OTT) and Colin White if they need a Center (or Sens would just buy him out)

Ridly Greig stock has continued to rise, he's not too far behind Pinto now. Brannstrom is not worth as much as Thomson but he's only 1 year older and has been developing well. Quietly put 27 pts in 83 games since last season (he was 21). Colin White is a good 3rd line forward, just a bit overpaid, but 3 years left. Gustavsson and an early 2nd instead of Connor Brown.


Tkachuk - Norris - Tkachuk
Formenton - Stutzle - Batherson
Joseph - Pinto - Brown
Crookshank/Kelly - Kastelic - Watson
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