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Gaudreau Takes Paycut to be on a Contender

Created by: Sicksi
Initial Creation Date: May 28, 2022
Published: May 28, 2022
Team: 2022-23 Calgary Flames
Team Explanation
Incentives for Gaudreau:
- He’s on the best team that will offer him a deal, and it’s not close
- He’s still getting decent money albeit in a Canadian market
- His contract expires when he should still be playing at a high level, 33 is pretty young
- Not signing long-term insures he can be on contending teams for essentially the rest of his career if he really wants it
Free Agent Signings
RFAYEARSCAP HIT
Kylington, Oliver3$4,500,000
Ruzicka, Adam1$900,000
Mangiapane, Andrew6$5,000,000
Tuulola, Eetu2$900,000
Parsons, Tyler2$750,000
Phillips, Matthew2$925,000
Pospisil, Martin2$824,197
Kinnvall, Johannes2$894,167
Tkachuk, Matthew7$9,150,000
UFAYEARSCAP HIT
Lewis, Trevor1$850,000
Ritchie, Brett1$900,000
Stone, Michael1$800,000
Gaudreau, Johnny5$9,500,000
Zadorov, Nikita2$3,166,667
Wideman, Chris1$950,000
Trades
1.
CGY
    ARI
    1. Lucic, Milan
    2. Välimäki, Juuso
    3. 2023 6th round pick (CGY)
    2.
    CGY
      Have so much cap space that they couldn’t spend it all even if they try to make a push to be a much better team than they were last year
      OTT
      1. Monahan, Sean
      2. 2023 2nd round pick (CGY)
      3.
      CGY
      1. Eller, Lars
      WSH
      1. 2024 3rd round pick (CGY)
      Is he available?
      DRAFT YEARROUND 1ROUND 2ROUND 3ROUND 4ROUND 5ROUND 6ROUND 7
      2022
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      2023
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      2024
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      ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES TooltipBONUSESCAP SPACE
      22$82,500,000$82,480,000$0$200,000$20,000
      Left WingCenterRight Wing
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      Gaudreau, Johnny
      $9,500,000
      LW
      NMC
      UFA - 7
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      Lindholm, Elias
      $4,850,000
      C, RW
      UFA - 2
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      Tkachuk, Matthew
      $9,150,000
      RW, LW
      UFA - 8
      Logo of the CGY
      Mangiapane, Andrew
      $5,000,000
      LW, RW
      UFA - 3
      Logo of the CGY
      Backlund, Mikael
      $5,350,000
      C
      NTC
      UFA - 2
      Logo of the CGY
      Coleman, Blake
      $4,900,000
      LW, RW
      NTC
      UFA - 5
      Logo of the CGY
      Dubé, Dillon
      $2,300,000
      LW, RW
      RFA - 2
      Logo of the WSH
      Eller, Lars
      $3,500,000
      C
      UFA - 1
      Logo of the CGY
      Toffoli, Tyler
      $4,250,000
      RW, LW
      UFA - 2
      Logo of the CGY
      Pelletier, Jakob
      $863,333
      LW
      RFA - 2
      Logo of the CGY
      Lewis, Trevor
      $850,000
      RW
      UFA - 1
      Logo of the CGY
      Ritchie, Brett
      $900,000
      RW
      UFA - 1
      Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
      Logo of the CGY
      Hanifin, Noah
      $4,950,000
      LD
      NTC
      UFA - 2
      Logo of the CGY
      Andersson, Rasmus
      $4,550,000
      RD
      UFA - 4
      Logo of the CGY
      Markström, Jacob
      $6,000,000
      G
      NMC
      UFA - 4
      Logo of the CGY
      Kylington, Oliver
      $4,500,000
      LD/RD
      UFA - 2
      Logo of the CGY
      Tanev, Christopher
      $4,500,000
      RD
      NTC
      UFA - 2
      Logo of the CGY
      Vladar, Daniel
      $750,000
      G
      UFA - 1
      Logo of the CGY
      Zadorov, Nikita
      $3,166,667
      LD/RD
      UFA - 2
      Wideman, Chris
      $950,000
      RD
      UFA - 2
      ScratchesInjured Reserve (IR)Long Term IR (LTIR)
      Logo of the CGY
      Ruzicka, Adam
      $900,000
      C, RW
      RFA - 2
      Logo of the CGY
      Stone, Michael
      $800,000
      RD
      UFA - 1

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      May 28 at 5:22 p.m.
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      Ottawa accepts.
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      May 28 at 5:35 p.m.
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      "Gaudreau Takes Paycut to be on a Contender"

      I seriously doubt Gaudreau signs with the Lightning.

      They just don't have the cap space.
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      May 28 at 5:47 p.m.
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      laugh laugh You mean supposed contender that just chocked to Edmonton?

      Rumblings are that Johnny Gaudreau wants at least $10,000,000 x 8 years to remain in Calgary.

      And GMs knowing that Brad Treliving will need to move both Lucic and Monahan to comfortably afford to resign both Gaudreau and Tkachuk and Mangiapane will want premiums to take on Lucic and Monahan.
      May 28 at 5:50 p.m.
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      Based on these playoffs CGY is not a contender, but a pretender.

      Good regular season with Markström overplaying to his level only to be exposed in the playoffs.

      Gaudreau would waste his career in CGY methinks.

      Also if you want to skimp on the money, you should compensate on term. You've done neither here.
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      May 28 at 6:14 p.m.
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      Why are fans so insistent that they have to sign their own UFAs? Players have the choice to where they want to sign. Best thing for a team that "loses" a UFA, is just sign other players for good value.
      May 28 at 6:31 p.m.
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      Quoting: drewjenkins
      "Gaudreau Takes Paycut to be on a Contender"

      I seriously doubt Gaudreau signs with the Lightning.

      They just don't have the cap space.


      I mean if he wants 1x1smile
      May 28 at 7:26 p.m.
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      Quoting: TampaBayLightning22
      laugh laugh You mean supposed contender that just chocked to Edmonton?

      Rumblings are that Johnny Gaudreau wants at least $10,000,000 x 8 years to remain in Calgary.

      And GMs knowing that Brad Treliving will need to move both Lucic and Monahan to comfortably afford to resign both Gaudreau and Tkachuk and Mangiapane will want premiums to take on Lucic and Monahan.


      Coyotes would be pretty stupid to reject an offer like that, they are especially weak in defensive prospects and it's cap space they're not going to be using anyways. If they decline, they will find someone else. Same with Monahan. Sens aren't going to be using that cap space so it would be very stupid for Dorion to say no. And they didn't choke lol, not gonna make excuses for them but they were very injured. Dallas gave them trouble but experience never hurt anyone, isn't that right Tampa Bay Lightning fan?

      And for Gaudreau, I'm not gonna argue reports but it would be much more logical for him to make himself a free agent at 33 with the market being much higher than making himself a free agent at age 36. Just seems silly to me, he would all but definitely be losing money
      May 28 at 7:29 p.m.
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      Quoting: justaBoss
      Based on these playoffs CGY is not a contender, but a pretender.

      Good regular season with Markström overplaying to his level only to be exposed in the playoffs.

      Gaudreau would waste his career in CGY methinks.



      Also if you want to skimp on the money, you should compensate on term. You've done neither here.


      I did him a favor by not giving him longer term. 5 years from now at age 33 he'd be getting that $10M anyways at the very least. Nobody can predict the market but I'd go out on a limb and say he gets more. Maybe I wasn't doing him a favor, who knows
      May 28 at 7:31 p.m.
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      Quoting: palhal
      Why are fans so insistent that they have to sign their own UFAs? Players have the choice to where they want to sign. Best thing for a team that "loses" a UFA, is just sign other players for good value.


      They have good core right now, I don't see why they shouldn't. There has been no indication of Gaudreau wanting to go elsewhere to this point. I can't speak for him but I'd rather take a few runs at it with a team like Calgary than waste the rest of my career in a ****hole like Philly
      May 28 at 7:45 p.m.
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      Milan Lucic used "22-Team No Trade Clause"!

      It's very effective!!
      May 28 at 7:55 p.m.
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      Quoting: Sicksi
      I did him a favor by not giving him longer term. 5 years from now at age 33 he'd be getting that $10M anyways at the very least. Nobody can predict the market but I'd go out on a limb and say he gets more. Maybe I wasn't doing him a favor, who knows


      No he won't. No one pays that much for a 33 year old. He'd have to once again settle for term or money. Which is why he'll take a max term deal now from the team that offers the most.

      A team like Devils offering him now a 7-year, $10M AAV deal totals up to much more tha an 5-year, $9,5M AAV deal, because after both deals Gaudreau is still likely getting a decent enough contract.
      May 28 at 8:01 p.m.
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      Quoting: dannibalcorpse
      Milan Lucic used "22-Team No Trade Clause"!

      It's very effective!!


      he waived it during the expansion draft, i dont see why he wouldnt do the flames a favor. i dont know the specifics of his NTC however. but at that point he would just retire
      May 28 at 8:02 p.m.
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      Quoting: justaBoss
      No he won't. No one pays that much for a 33 year old. He'd have to once again settle for term or money. Which is why he'll take a max term deal now from the team that offers the most.

      A team like Devils offering him now a 7-year, $10M AAV deal totals up to much more tha an 5-year, $9,5M AAV deal, because after both deals Gaudreau is still likely getting a decent enough contract.


      alex ovechkin came off the worst season of his career at age 36 and got 9.5M in a flat cap year. i get it i get it these are two completely different players but its definitely a possibility
      May 28 at 8:49 p.m.
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      alex ovechkin came off the worst season of his career at age 36 and got 9.5M in a flat cap year. i get it i get it these are two completely different players but its definitely a possibility


      Ovechkin is a completely different entity because he was coming off that 13-year contract of his, which is nowadays not allowed. He just took pretty much the exact same cap hit he had previously and signed for that for five more years - most likely his goal is to pass Gretzky in the all time goals and he and Caps front office thought he could achieve that in five years.

      Gaudreau is turning 29 before the next season begins. He's at his prime and will take the career contract that'll last throughout the rest of his career, as pretty much every single top line forward have after their first non-ELC contract expires. If CGY keeps him, it'll be around $10M x 8.
      May 28 at 9:10 p.m.
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      Some good ideas, just paying too much for Kylington, too little for Zadorov who is likely gone, and too much for 4th liners and Stone
       
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