Fending off an Offer Sheet

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Created by: Jimbo1119

Team: 2022-23 New York Rangers

Initial Creation Date: Jun. 7, 2022

Published: Jun. 7, 2022

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Doubt NYR will face an offer sheet on Kakko...but if they do:
If AAV warrants 1st and 3rd pick as compensation- good chance NYR take that and move on- get more picks in a supposedly stocked draft and this actually helps in dealing with CAP next year.

But if the compensation is (1) 2nd- no way are NYR letting Kakko go...so something has to give:
They can avoid extending Copp- but this would leave a big C and/or top 6 void
So if they do extend Copp, realistically there are (2) options: Chytl or Lindgren...
Moving Chytl would also help solve a problem next year- but would open up a C void now- and (due to rough 2021/21) would probably sell low on him.
While many will cringe at the idea of moving Lindgren- something has to give for NYR to keep their top assets...and D is a position of Org strength. And due to the year and playoffs Lindgren has had- NYR would probably be able to sell high on him.
Nemeth and Reaves are no-brainers...irregardless of the CAP crunch, both occupy roster spots needed by others.

Of course the summer of 2023 will then bring its own challenges- unless one of the guys with a NMC is moved, NYR will probably have to move one of Kakko, Miller, LaF, or Chytl....but they have a whole year to figure that one out as well as try to maximize a return on anyone who is moved.

Free Agent Signings

RFA	YEARS	CAP HIT
Kakko, Kaapo	2	$4,200,000
Blais, Samuel	1	$1,600,000
Gauthier, Julien	1	$800,000
Hájek, Libor	1	$875,000

UFA	YEARS	CAP HIT
Wedgewood, Scott	1	$850,000
Copp, Andrew	6	$5,500,000
Motte, Tyler	4	$2,000,000

Trades

NYR

2022 4th round pick (ANA)

Additional Details:

any team

ANA

Reaves, Ryan

NYR

Any team not on his 8 team no trade list interested in a pick

ARI

Nemeth, Patrik
2022 2nd round pick (NYR)

NYR

2022 2nd round pick (WSH)
2023 2nd round pick (STL)

DET

Lindgren, Ryan

NYR

2022 6th round pick (BOS)

Additional Details:

any team

BOS

Strome signing rights

NYR

2022 2nd round pick (SJS)
2023 3rd round pick (ARI)

Additional Details:

Krav still might have an opportunity in NY
If moved- this is the required return...anything less he stays put

ARI

Kravtsov, Vitali [RFA Rights]

NYR

2023 3rd round pick (EDM)

Additional Details:

Any team that anticipates being in a 1a/1B goalie tandem situation

EDM

Georgiev, Alexandar [RFA Rights]

Buyouts

Kevin Shattenkirk: $1,433,333
Dan Girardi: $1,111,111
Anthony Deangelo: $883,334
Brad Richards: $0

Draft	Round 1	Round 2	Round 3	Round 4	Round 5	Round 6	Round 7
2022
2023
2024

ROSTER

LONG-TERM OUTLOOK

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ROSTER SIZE	SALARY CAP	CAP HIT	OVERAGES	BONUSES	CAP SPACE
22	$82,500,000	$81,153,969	$0	$4,500,000	$1,346,031

Left Wing	Centre	Right Wing
Kreider, Chris $6,500,000$6,500,000 LW NMC UFA - 5	Zibanejad, Mika $8,500,000$8,500,000 C NMC UFA - 8	Gauthier, Julien $800,000$800,000 RW UFA - 1
Panarin, Artemi $11,642,857$11,642,857 LW NMC UFA - 4	Copp, Andrew $5,500,000$5,500,000 C, LW, RW UFA - 5	Goodrow, Barclay $3,641,667$3,641,667 C, LW M-NTC UFA - 5
Lafrenière, Alexis $925,000$925,000 ($2,850,000$3M) LW, RW RFA - 1	Chytil, Filip $2,300,000$2,300,000 C, LW UFA - 1	Kakko, Kaapo $4,200,000$4,200,000 RW RFA - 2
Motte, Tyler $2,000,000$2,000,000 LW, RW UFA - 1		Blais, Samuel $1,600,000$1,600,000 LW, RW UFA - 1
Hunt, Dryden $762,500$762,500 LW, RW UFA - 1	Brodzinski, Jonny $762,500$762,500 C UFA - 2

Left Defense	Right Defense	Goaltender
Miller, K'Andre $925,000$925,000 ($400,000$400K) LD RFA - 1	Trouba, Jacob $8,000,000$8,000,000 RD NMC UFA - 4	Shesterkin, Igor $5,666,667$5,666,667 G UFA - 3
Lundkvist, Nils $925,000$925,000 ($850,000$850K) RD RFA - 2	Fox, Adam $9,500,000$9,500,000 RD UFA - 7
Jones, Zachary $925,000$925,000 LD RFA - 1	Schneider, Braden $925,000$925,000 ($400,000$400K) RD RFA - 2	Wedgewood, Scott $850,000$850,000 G UFA - 2
Hájek, Libor $875,000$875,000 LD UFA - 1

Jun. 7, 2022 at 8:43 a.m.

DeadWingsv2

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Value is certainly fine, but that's not a fit for Detroit. Yzerman isn't giving up valuable picks right now. He just said in a press conference that he doesn't foresee any trades that make sense this off season and a perfect fit would need to present itself for him to even consider it. He's looking to fill holes via FA and prospects for next season.

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Jun. 7, 2022 at 8:54 a.m.

AdamFox

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Why would we trade Lindgren ? terrible

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Jun. 7, 2022 at 9:04 a.m.

Goalie

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I don’t agree with the whole trade lindgren narrative, it’s idiotic, he’s a warrior and our blue line would be astronomically worse without him. I highly doubt an offer sheet would occur as they do nothing but promote bad business (Carolina and MTL)

Jun. 7, 2022 at 9:12 a.m.

Jimbo1119

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Quoting: AdamFox

Why would we trade Lindgren ? terrible

You're not getting my point...at the moment I do not want to trade Lindgren. He is a good match with Fox. He is an absolute warrior. Plays with the grit this team so needs. Moving him would be as a contingency.

If they face an offer sheet on Kakko- he is a higher end asset than Lindgren. I really see 2 options to keep Kakko- move Chytl or Lindgren. C is a position of org weakness, while D is a position of org strength. And in terms of value- for all the reasons you mention they would be able to sell high on Lindgren. Even though Chytl is having a good playoff- they would probably sell low on him.

Jun. 7, 2022 at 9:14 a.m.

NYR1983

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No fan base feels Kakko is anything but a bust.. it’s been the same take by 💯 % of accounts on here from day 1. He has been the quietest of the kid line through the playoffs. No one is sending an OS to him. We will lock him up with a bridge deal no problem. Only NYR fans see the potential in him so we don’t need to worry

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Jun. 7, 2022 at 9:15 a.m.

Jimbo1119

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Quoting: Despise

Agreed they probably wont face an offer sheet...and if they do not, then I'm not looking to trade Lindgren. But if they do: then it's Lindgren or Chytl

Jun. 7, 2022 at 9:27 a.m.

evelutions2

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I think there would be a team that sends an OS to Kakko with no intention of actually acquiring him. The main point of that offer sheet would be to screw the Rags cap situation to the point of either OS a different player of higher interest (Laf, Miller, Lindgren, etc.) or to force the Rags to send someone out at a lower value.

I do think that if an OS comes to Kakko, and the compensation is a 2nd round pick or less, NYR match. However if it comes to a 1st and 3rd, at that point I think the Rags let him go. The Rags are in an unfortunate position with their cap and contracts coming due, I wouldn’t be surprised if they end up losing 1 or 2 quality assets they would much rather not give up in the next 2-3 years.

Jun. 7, 2022 at 9:30 a.m.

Sagecoll

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The Strome and Reaves deals make sense at least...

The rest are a bit low in return. Nemeth likely doesn't a sweetener at all btw.

Jun. 7, 2022 at 10:53 a.m.

LafreNYR

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Trading Lindgren and Gauthier on the first line. This is disgusting.

Jun. 7, 2022 at 11:00 a.m.

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Lindgren would be a great fit for Seider but I don't see Yzerman moving 2 2nds for him. Maybe a 2nd a B prospect but I don't think the rangers would be interested in that.

Jun. 7, 2022 at 11:23 a.m.

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Quoting: LafreNYR

Trading Lindgren and Gauthier on the first line. This is disgusting.

The RW position obviously has a bit to be desired...trying to keep the Kid line together...and 1st line Blais? coming back from ACL injury? lot to ask there. Maybe Krav is an option. Maybe Copp stays at RW. I guess what I'm saying is a lot of unknowns- and reality will most likely bring about decisions not shown here. So I wouldn't get too hung up on where Gaut is placed. He's just a cheap NHLer here filling out a roster spot...where exactly he'd play is TBD.

As far as losing Lindgren- again...need to come up with the additional CAP in the unlikely scenario Kakko is offer sheeted. I want to keep Lindgren! Any better suggestions?

Jun. 7, 2022 at 11:32 a.m.

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Jimbo1119

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Quoting: Sagecoll

The Strome and Reaves deals make sense at least...

The rest are a bit low in return. Nemeth likely doesn't a sweetener at all btw.

Could probably get more for Lindgren...I'm just coming from the position of a distress sale.
As far as Georgiev- kind of tricky since everyone knows NYR will not want to offer QO...many feel NYR will just let him go UFA- at which the'd get no return. Depending on who's interested, though, with some slick maneuvering maybe Drury can move him for a return.
As far as Krav- I'm not convinced he's done in NY...RW is a position of weakness- the opportunity will be there to rifle up the RW depth chart. But if Drury refuses to deal with him he will insist on a return better than they received for Lias. Otherwise continued KHL.

And hope you're right about Nemeth!

Jun. 7, 2022 at 11:58 a.m.

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Quoting: Jimbo1119

1) It’s gonna be nearly impossible to keep the kid line together next year because of the cap crunch.

2) Kakko probably isn’t gonna get offer sheeted, but even if he did you don’t move Lindgren the decision becomes to you prioritize keeping all the kids or do you try to win now(re-sign Copp and trade Chytil). If your priority is keeping all the kids it’s fairly easy even with a Kakko offer sheet https://www.capfriendly.com/armchair-gm/team/3310530

Jun. 7, 2022 at 12:28 p.m.

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Jimbo1119

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Quoting: LafreNYR

Not dismissing your idea of handling next year's CAP crunch...I just don't like the idea of losing Copp and I'm still not convinced Chytl is ready for 2C. They gave big assets to get Copp here and he has been the perfect fit. As long as they can extend him for 5.75M per (or cheaper) they need to keep him. And the Kid line- staying together as a unit for 3rd line matchups is key to them continuing development. Also, you solve the 3C dilemma by moving Lundqvist for Dellandrea. At face value I guess the values are on par...but I don't think Dellandrea has shown a lot in DAL. And while Lunkqvist did struggle last year, I think what he really needs is opportunity- which comes if there is an opening. Arguments can be made that right now Nils is the 2nd or 3rd best D man in the organization. Given the opportunity, I think he can prove that- and sky is still the limit for him.

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Jun. 7, 2022 at 12:50 p.m.

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Quoting: Jimbo1119

There really is no way to keep Copp and the kid line if Kakko gets offer sheeted(which I think is unlikely anyway). As for Lundkvist I agree he shouldn’t be judged off 25 games, but I also think he doesn’t really have a clear organizational fit here and they might look to move him to improve depth at another position like C.

Jun. 7, 2022 at 1:09 p.m.

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Quoting: Jimbo1119

No need to distress. Georgiev should get a solid return, very few goaltenders out there with his combination of youth, sample size, and good performance (particularly on short rest). He's got 130 GP and a +4 GSAx. If someone like Vanecek is looking at a 2nd, Georgiev should be getting at least a 2nd. The track record of goaltenders coming out of Allaire's tutelage (Talbot, Raanta) is very strong.

Krav is great. Awesome playoff performer in the KHL. He should be here next year, only thing holding him back would be Drury.

Nemeth is fine, system isn't right for him since it exposes some weak points in his game. But if he went to somewhere like Calgary or Dallas where he's defending the blue line more and handling the puck less as part of their scheme he'd come off better than he does. Still someone with his size and experience and affordable cap hit doesn't require a sweetener. NHL GM's love that type.

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Jun. 7, 2022 at 2:20 p.m.

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Quoting: LafreNYR

If they can add a C who slots in bottom 6 right now, and projects as a possible 2C...I'm all for it. But GM's usually hold these guys near and dear (like LA with all their Cs). And there just might be an organizational fit...regardless of what I put together here involving Lindgren, 3LD is open next year. Is Zac Jones the guy? maybe. But Lundqvist had (and prob still has) a higher ceiling. Carrying both is probably advisable- especially for injury depth. And at some point- 2 years down the line they probably will look to move Trouba.

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Jun. 7, 2022 at 3:37 p.m.

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Quoting: Jimbo1119

C is gonna be the big question all offseason. Can Nils play the left side? If so I’d probably rather him than Jones(who I also like) because like you said the ceiling is higher. Where does Matt Robertson factor into all of this? Who knows maybe Gallant prefers a bigger body defenseman on that 3rd pair to match with Schneider for the time being. Agreed on Trouba he kinda has to be traded in 2 years when he loses the NMC in order to pay all the kids.

Jun. 7, 2022 at 8:03 p.m.

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Quoting: LafreNYR

haven't heard much about Nils on the left. "Experts" have said that ALL Dmen can play both sides...just a matter of how well on off side (thanks for that word of wisdom, lol). Given that the word on Nils is that he is a silky smooth skater and real smart- I'm of the opinion he could make the adjustment. In any case, taking Trouba's spot on PP2 in itself would be a big improvement. As far as Robertson- I think he's coming along, but he doesn't seem to have grabbed the same attention that Schneider grabbed- and he's further into his development than Schneider. So my guess is NYR still have plans for him- but more marinating is required,

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