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Team: 2022-23 Dallas Stars
Initial Creation Date: Jun. 14, 2022
Published: Jun. 14, 2022
Salary Cap Mode: Basic
Free Agent Signings
RFAYEARSCAP HIT
8$9,000,000
3$3,250,000
2$975,000
UFAYEARSCAP HIT
2$1,000,000
2$850,000
3$1,000,000
Trades
1.
DAL
  1. 2023 6th round pick (WSH)
SEA
  1. Khudobin, Anton
  2. 2022 3rd round pick (DAL)
Additional Details:
With Driedger starting next season on LTIR would Seattle take a shot on Khudobin??
2.
DAL
  1. Drouin, Jonathan ($2,500,000 retained)
  2. Petry, Jeff
MTL
  1. Bourque, Mavrik
  2. 2022 4th round pick (DAL)
  3. 2023 2nd round pick (DAL)
Buyouts
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2022
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2023
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2024
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23$82,500,000$78,551,528$675,000$1,545,000$3,948,472
Left WingCentreRight Wing
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$9,000,000$9,000,000
LW, RW
RFA - 4
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$3,150,000$3,150,000
C
UFA - 1
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$5,500,000$5,500,000 (Performance Bonus$500,000$500K)
RW
NMC
UFA - 1
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$9,500,000$9,500,000
LW, C
NMC
UFA - 3
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$9,850,000$9,850,000
C, RW
NMC
UFA - 5
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$2,900,000$2,900,000
RW, LW
UFA - 1
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$3,000,000$3,000,000
LW, RW
M-NTC
UFA - 1
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$894,167$894,167
C
RFA - 3
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$1,500,000$1,500,000
C, RW, LW
UFA - 1
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$842,500$842,500 (Performance Bonus$82,500$82K)
LW, C
RFA - 1
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$863,333$863,333 (Performance Bonus$537,500$538K)
RW
RFA - 1
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$975,000$975,000
LW
UFA - 1
$1,000,000$1,000,000
C
UFA - 3
$850,000$850,000
RW
UFA - 1
Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
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$3,650,000$3,650,000
LD
NMC
UFA - 3
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$8,450,000$8,450,000
LD/RD
UFA - 7
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$3,250,000$3,250,000
G
RFA - 3
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$5,800,000$5,800,000
LD
NMC
UFA - 3
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$2,343,750$2,343,750
RD
M-NTC, NMC
UFA - 3
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$1,000,000$1,000,000
G
UFA - 2
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$750,000$750,000
LD/RD
UFA - 1
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$1,500,000$1,500,000
RD
UFA - 2
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$863,333$863,333 (Performance Bonus$425,000$425K)
LD
RFA - 2

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Jun. 14, 2022 at 8:59 a.m.
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Habs accept
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Jun. 14, 2022 at 9:06 a.m.
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Stars decline that Habs trade 1000/1000 times. I don’t know how many times I have to say this, Stars aren’t trading Bourque for Petry, and certainly not adding a first. Drouin changes nothing in this.

Would you trade 2 of Montreal’s lower first’s for Suter?
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Jun. 14, 2022 at 9:09 a.m.
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BOURQUE AND A FIRST FOR THOSE SCRUBS???

Oh my f*cking god...
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Jun. 14, 2022 at 9:21 a.m.
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Quoting: EsoYeezus69
Stars decline that Habs trade 1000/1000 times. I don’t know how many times I have to say this, Stars aren’t trading Bourque for Petry, and certainly not adding a first. Drouin changes nothing in this.

Would you trade 2 of Montreal’s lower first’s for Suter?


Comapring Suter to Petry just shows how little you know. Petry has 21 points in 29 games under St Louis. He has better xGF/60 and xGA/60 than Letang and that includes the Ducharme period.
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Jun. 14, 2022 at 9:21 a.m.
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Habs accept!
Jun. 14, 2022 at 9:23 a.m.
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Quoting: justaBoss
BOURQUE AND A FIRST FOR THOSE SCRUBS???

Oh my f*cking god...


Yeah you are right, i would downgrade to a 2nd rnd pick now that i think about it.
Jun. 14, 2022 at 9:26 a.m.
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Yeah you are right, i would downgrade to a 2nd rnd pick now that i think about it.


Drouin could be retained 50% and thats a 2nd rounder at the deadline right there

Petry is worth Bourque and a 3rd. Add the 2nd and 3rd together and you get a 1st, and the Habs could add a later 3rd or an early 4th
Jun. 14, 2022 at 9:28 a.m.
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Yeah you are right, i would downgrade to a 2nd rnd pick now that i think about it.


I would downgrade it by dropping them all and showing the middle finger to Montreal.

We're not moving Bourque, period.
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Jun. 14, 2022 at 9:28 a.m.
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Quoting: JeffGorton
Comapring Suter to Petry just shows how little you know. Petry has 21 points in 29 games under St Louis. He has better xGF/60 and xGA/60 than Letang and that includes the Ducharme period.


And I still wouldn't trade Bourque and a 1st for Letang. You don't trade the equivalent of 2 first's for a 35 year old dman that's being paid too much (Dallas wants to get rid of Klinger who wants maybe a million more). And 29 games is a wayyy too small sample size to evaluate players.

If Petry could've returned this haul he would've gone at the deadline, only problem he didn't.
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Jun. 14, 2022 at 9:29 a.m.
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Quoting: JeffGorton
Petry is worth Bourque and a 3rd.


If Petry is worth Bourque+3rd, then Ryan Suter is worth Joshua Roy+26th overall, period. Otherwise everything you just said is extremely biased and/or addlepated. Probably both.
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Jun. 14, 2022 at 9:31 a.m.
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Quoting: JeffGorton
Comapring Suter to Petry just shows how little you know. Petry has 21 points in 29 games under St Louis. He has better xGF/60 and xGA/60 than Letang and that includes the Ducharme period.


Here's the thing - we're not spending a massive haul for Petry because of his last 29 games. The 40 games prior to that he was one of the worst D-men in the league. Only a f*cking idiot would consider the latter half when dealing with him.
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Jun. 14, 2022 at 9:38 a.m.
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Here's the thing - we're not spending a massive haul for Petry because of his last 29 games. The 40 games prior to that he was one of the worst D-men in the league. Only a f*cking idiot would consider the latter half when dealing with him.


So youre gonna completely disregard the 82 games before that as well? You cant pick and choose which games youre gonna count for a player. Either they all do or none do and Petry was an elite D man in 2020-2021. Sucked the first half of 2021-2022 but everyone on the Habs did and then with the coaching change, hes back to his 2020-2021 play.
Jun. 14, 2022 at 9:40 a.m.
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And I still wouldn't trade Bourque and a 1st for Letang. You don't trade the equivalent of 2 first's for a 35 year old dman that's being paid too much (Dallas wants to get rid of Klinger who wants maybe a million more). And 29 games is a wayyy too small sample size to evaluate players.

If Petry could've returned this haul he would've gone at the deadline, only problem he didn't.


Then use the entire of 2020-2021 and the years before that to evaluate Petry. Using the 40 game sunder Ducharme is the minority of his games. Using the entirety of last season + playoffs and the second half of this season is a larger game size than the 40 game under Ducharme in which everyone was bad because hes a bad coach with a bad system
Jun. 14, 2022 at 9:43 a.m.
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Then use the entire of 2020-2021 and the years before that to evaluate Petry. Using the 40 game sunder Ducharme is the minority of his games. Using the entirety of last season + playoffs and the second half of this season is a larger game size than the 40 game under Ducharme in which everyone was bad because hes a bad coach with a bad system


You were the one who used the 29 games tho, not me.

And Dallas will probably get a coach just like him (basically like there last one) so it counters out. I wouldn't want a Ducharme Petry even less than a regular Petry, and chances are that's what we're going to get when we hire a bone head coach (hopefully not, but it's inevitable).
Jun. 14, 2022 at 9:45 a.m.
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You were the one who used the 29 games tho, not me.

And Dallas will probably get a coach just like him (basically like there last one) so it counters out. I wouldn't want a Ducharme Petry even less than a regular Petry, and chances are that's what we're going to get when we hire a bone head coach (hopefully not, but it's inevitable).


There isnt a team in the league who wouldnt take regular Petry. And no way the Stars hire anyone as bad as Ducharme. Hes the worst coach ive ever seen. And you can see it with the prduction of the team after he got fired. And St Louis isnt that great of a coach either, hes just not Ducharme
Jun. 14, 2022 at 9:48 a.m.
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There isnt a team in the league who wouldnt take regular Petry. And no way the Stars hire anyone as bad as Ducharme. Hes the worst coach ive ever seen. And you can see it with the prduction of the team after he got fired. And St Louis isnt that great of a coach either, hes just not Ducharme


They basically has Ducharme as there last coach, aka Bones, who is as sh*t if not worst. He ruined what is known as offense on this team.

And no, every team wouldn't want a regular Petry, the salary cap is a thing, this isn't NHL 22 where you can turn it off, if so yes every team would take Petry.
Jun. 14, 2022 at 10:07 a.m.
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Quoting: JeffGorton
So youre gonna completely disregard the 82 games before that as well? You cant pick and choose which games youre gonna count for a player. Either they all do or none do and Petry was an elite D man in 2020-2021. Sucked the first half of 2021-2022 but everyone on the Habs did and then with the coaching change, hes back to his 2020-2021 play.


I'm not. You were the one started to cherry pick first, I'm taking into account this year as a whole which definitely did show up some red flags to any sensible hockey fan.

There's three facts as to why I find Petry a questionable asset
- age
- contract
- erratic play

Pretty substantial points, no?

Petry has value and skill, there's no doubt about it. But I have serious doubts about his trade value. If the asking price is a first round pick for a prospect+pick equivalent to that, if I was a GM you could kiss my ass with such request, I'm looking at other much less risky options - even if Petry finds his 2020-21 level.
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Jun. 14, 2022 at 10:32 a.m.
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Comapring Suter to Petry just shows how little you know. Petry has 21 points in 29 games under St Louis. He has better xGF/60 and xGA/60 than Letang and that includes the Ducharme period.


He still old tho. And if Nill gives Bourque for him he should be fired immediately
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