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What I would do

Created by: TMLBRIAN
Team: 2022-23 Winnipeg Jets
Initial Creation Date: Jul. 15, 2022
Published: Jul. 15, 2022
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I don't believe in this team and think they should sell off.

Thoughts on this?
Free Agent Signings
RFAYEARSCAP HIT
8$8,000,000
2$762,500
2$762,500
UFAYEARSCAP HIT
1$750,000
Trades
1.
WPG
  1. van Riemsdyk, James
  2. 2023 1st round pick (PHI)
PHI
  1. Wheeler, Blake ($4,125,000 retained)
2.
WPG
  1. Monahan, Sean
  2. Välimäki, Juuso
  3. 2023 1st round pick (CGY)
  4. 2024 2nd round pick (CGY)
  5. 2025 3rd round pick (CGY)
3.
WPG
  1. Byron, Paul
  2. Drouin, Jonathan
  3. 2023 1st round pick (MTL)
  4. 2023 1st round pick (FLA)
Retained Salary Transactions
DraftRound 1Round 2Round 3Round 4Round 5Round 6Round 7
2023
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2024
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2025
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ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES TooltipBONUSESCAP SPACE
22$82,500,000$82,128,691$0$1,700,000$371,309
Left WingCentreRight Wing
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$7,142,857$7,142,857
LW
UFA - 4
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$5,500,000$5,500,000
LW, RW
M-NTC
UFA - 1
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$6,000,000$6,000,000
RW, LW
M-NTC
UFA - 3
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$7,000,000$7,000,000
LW, RW
UFA - 1
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$894,167$894,167 (Performance Bonus$850,000$850K)
LW, C
RFA - 2
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$750,000$750,000
C, LW
UFA - 1
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$6,375,000$6,375,000
C, LW, RW
M-NTC
UFA - 1
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$762,500$762,500
RW
UFA - 3
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$3,250,000$3,250,000
C
M-NTC
UFA - 4
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$3,400,000$3,400,000
LW, RW
UFA - 1
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$762,500$762,500
LW
UFA - 2
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$925,000$925,000 (Performance Bonus$850,000$850K)
LW, RW
RFA - 1
$750,000$750,000
LW, C
UFA
Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
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$6,250,000$6,250,000
LD
NMC
UFA - 6
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$5,875,000$5,875,000
RD
UFA - 3
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$6,166,667$6,166,667
G
UFA - 2
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$5,950,000$5,950,000
LD/RD
M-NTC
UFA - 3
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$900,000$900,000
G
UFA - 1
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$1,550,000$1,550,000
LD
RFA - 1
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$3,000,000$3,000,000
RD
M-NTC
UFA - 2
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$3,900,000$3,900,000
LD
UFA - 2
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$900,000$900,000
LD
RFA - 1

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Jul. 15, 2022 at 3:47 p.m.
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MTL laugh in your face
Jul. 15, 2022 at 3:48 p.m.
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I don't think there's any reason for JVR to be dumped now, probably stays on the team until the deadline
Jul. 15, 2022 at 3:49 p.m.
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Both picks are top 15 protected and you have a maybe (still no probably, habs won't sacrifice any sort of future for PLD)
Jul. 15, 2022 at 3:51 p.m.
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MTL laugh in your face


I don't think they do... I am a Leafs fan by the way.

Montreal getting Dubois at 8 x 8 really solidifies their forward group for a long time. They still need to improve their dcorp. But they have 4 billion promising d prospects, so they are probably set there also.
Jul. 15, 2022 at 3:51 p.m.
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Both picks are top 15 protected and you have a maybe (still no probably, habs won't sacrifice any sort of future for PLD)


Top 5 protection.
Jul. 15, 2022 at 3:51 p.m.
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Winter will be long in Winnipeg this year!
Jul. 15, 2022 at 3:52 p.m.
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I don't think there's any reason for JVR to be dumped now, probably stays on the team until the deadline


Getting Wheeler half retained + dumping JVR might not be a bad call. Wheeler at that price is really good value.

Although I don't believe in almost anything Philly is doing. I think they should be sellers as well.
Jul. 15, 2022 at 3:54 p.m.
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Top 5 protection.


No deal
Jul. 15, 2022 at 3:58 p.m.
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Those trades are utterly and completely atrocious for Philly, Calgary and Montreal. Like, unless those are lottery protected (and convert to 2nds if they're in the lottery), there's not chance any of those are close to possible.
Jul. 15, 2022 at 4:11 p.m.
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The Scheifele and Montreal trades are horrible for Winnipeg.

A first to take back a cap dump and a low end defenseman they don't need for a Scheifele. Awful.

With Winnipeg having to take back two cap dumps and give up Dubois, two firsts aren't enough. You're vastly overrating the value of the picks.
Jul. 15, 2022 at 4:16 p.m.
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I don't think they do... I am a Leafs fan by the way.

Montreal getting Dubois at 8 x 8 really solidifies their forward group for a long time. They still need to improve their dcorp. But they have 4 billion promising d prospects, so they are probably set there also.


Or they use their likely top 5 pick to draft one of the half dozen large centres in the upcoming draft that project better than PLD does and dont spend money and assets on a centre who struggles in many aspects of being a centre
Jul. 15, 2022 at 4:19 p.m.
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The Scheifele and Montreal trades are horrible for Winnipeg.

A first to take back a cap dump and a low end defenseman they don't need for a Scheifele. Awful.

With Winnipeg having to take back two cap dumps and give up Dubois, two firsts aren't enough. You're vastly overrating the value of the picks.


I would normally say you are right... But look at the trade values from this summer for really good forwards. They are drastically lower than usual.

5 first rounders next year + a lot of cap space moving forward + some good young prospects. By all account Dubois doesn't want to be there. Scheifele and Wheeler are great players but they can't defend to save their lives.

Hence me selling them.
Jul. 15, 2022 at 4:26 p.m.
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I would normally say you are right... But look at the trade values from this summer for really good forwards. They are drastically lower than usual.

5 first rounders next year + a lot of cap space moving forward + some good young prospects. By all account Dubois doesn't want to be there. Scheifele and Wheeler are great players but they can't defend to save their lives.

Hence me selling them.


Yeah, but the Jets aren't rebuilding. The firsts are nice, but selling good players at a huge discount and taking back piles of crud to get those picks isn't smart asset management or a good team building strategy.

This is the kind of stuff Arizona does, not teams that are trying to win.
Jul. 15, 2022 at 4:28 p.m.
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Yeah, but the Jets aren't rebuilding. The firsts are nice, but selling good players at a huge discount and taking back piles of crud to get those picks isn't smart asset management or a good team building strategy.

This is the kind of stuff Arizona does, not teams that are trying to win.


Hence the title of my AGM is "What I would Do" - Which I would sell based on the roster and their current situation.

At least go for a retool.
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Jul. 15, 2022 at 4:32 p.m.
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Hence the title of my AGM is "What I would Do" - Which I would sell based on the roster and their current situation.

At least go for a retool.

They should attempt to rebuild/retool but they won’t
Jul. 15, 2022 at 4:59 p.m.
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I don't think they do... I am a Leafs fan by the way.

Montreal getting Dubois at 8 x 8 really solidifies their forward group for a long time. They still need to improve their dcorp. But they have 4 billion promising d prospects, so they are probably set there also.


Disagree
It commit's us to a inconsistent 60 pt player at best who's just as inconsistent in the playoffs.
Suzuki put MTL on his back and carried them to two straight playoffs as the top player undisputed.
PLD couldnt handle that at all and i dont see why we pay him more for being big and taking lots of penalties.

He's great for Non Playoff teams as this Generations Martin Hanzal basically
He's still got time to find his consistency to take back his Top Center Role
But the fact of the matter is PLD is a REALLY good 2nd line Center worth maybe 6.5m in my books
Even that's hard to justify it as he's just a 2nd Line version of Dvorak who's a solid 3rd line Center especially under MSL

MTL has option
Will Karlsson rumor is VGK are desperatly trying to move
they're 2m over cap with only 16/23 players signed
They gave away Pacioretty for nothing after posting nearly a Point Per Game even tossing in a prospect


There's a lot of teams trying to give away players right now
Besides if its me im going after LAK they got like 4-5m to sign Anderson,Durzi and Vlardi
Vlardi to me is much more interesting as his big issue or set back has been Season Opening Injuries
Something tells me he's the type of guy who to be effective cant take time off.

Suzuki is that way using only 3 weeks of his Summer for Vacation and the rest he's training at the London Knights facilities.
He's done so for years giving back to Junior hockey program while having access to top Training Facilities outside the NHL System in Canada
He's a Work Horse who's driven and Focused.

I bring all that up as i think Vlardi will benefit greatly from playing inbetween Suzuki/Dvorak as Athletically they're Freaks who love to train.
I just see as much upside to him with a Low cap as i do with PLD and his high cap
Even with players we love giving them a high cap always sours
Jul. 16, 2022 at 9:58 a.m.
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I suspect the draw of having two boys from Ste-Agathe-des-Monts in the lineup would tempt the Habs to hold on to Drouin for another year. But I don't imagine finding a workaround for Drouin in this deal would be that difficult. Anderson would be a better acquisition for the Jets anyway. The Habs would presumably then move Dach into Anderson's RW slot.
 
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