Pierre-Luc Dubois

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Created by: LIRIK

Team: 2022-23 Montreal Canadiens

Initial Creation Date: Jul. 18, 2022

Published: Jul. 18, 2022

Salary Cap Mode: Basic

Description

Barron : This one hurt, but MTL gotta give something to get Dubois.
Dvorak : Replace PLD as a 2C.
Hoffman : Cap dump, MTL need cap space to sign Dubois.
2nd : MTL could give FLO 2023 1st top 10 protected, but if it's top 10, MTL would have to give their 2024 1st, which could also be top 10 pick. Scary.

WIN get a needed RHD top prospect, a high pick (33-37) in a very deep draft, and two top 9 players who could be flipped for picks at a later TDL.

MTL get PLD, and only quality piece they lose is Barron. I know Dvorak and that 2nd have value, but i don't care.

Trades

MTL

Dubois, Pierre-Luc [RFA Rights]

WPG

Buyouts

Karl Alzner: $833,333

Draft	Round 1	Round 2	Round 3	Round 4	Round 5	Round 6	Round 7
2023
2024
2025

ROSTER

LONG-TERM OUTLOOK

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ROSTER SIZE	SALARY CAP	CAP HIT	OVERAGES	BONUSES	CAP SPACE
19	$82,500,000	$67,251,666	$1,132,500	$4,857,500	$15,248,334

Left Wing	Centre	Right Wing
	Suzuki, Nick $7,875,000$7,875,000 C UFA - 8	Gallagher, Brendan $6,500,000$6,500,000 RW, LW M-NTC, NMC UFA - 5
Byron, Paul $3,400,000$3,400,000 LW, RW UFA - 1		Anderson, Josh $5,500,000$5,500,000 RW, LW M-NTC UFA - 5
Pitlick, Rem $1,100,000$1,100,000 LW, RW UFA - 2	Evans, Jake $1,700,000$1,700,000 C UFA - 3	Dadonov, Evgeni $2,500,000$2,500,000 RW, LW M-NTC UFA - 1
Slafkovsky, Juraj $950,000$950,000 ($3,500,000$4M) RW, LW RFA - 3		Armia, Joel $3,400,000$3,400,000 RW, LW UFA - 3
Caufield, Cole $880,833$880,833 ($850,000$850K) LW, RW UFA - 1
Pezzetta, Michael $750,000$750,000 LW, RW UFA - 1

Left Defense	Right Defense	Goaltender
Matheson, Michael $4,875,000$4,875,000 LD M-NTC UFA - 4	Savard, David $3,500,000$3,500,000 RD UFA - 3	Price, Carey $10,500,000$10,500,000 G NMC UFA - 4
Edmundson, Joel $875,000$875,000 LD/RD M-NTC UFA - 2		Allen, Jake $2,875,000$2,875,000 G UFA - 1
Harris, Jordan $842,500$842,500 ($507,500$508K) LD/RD RFA - 1	Wideman, Chris $762,500$762,500 RD UFA - 2	Montembeault, Samuel $1,000,000$1,000,000 G UFA - 2

Scratches	Injured Reserve (IR)	Long Term IR (LTIR)
	Drouin, Jonathan $5,500,000$5,500,000 LW, RW M-NTC UFA - 1

Jul. 19, 2022 at 12:00 a.m.

CF18GM

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Why is WPG taking a cap dump to gift you PLD? Would rather send PLD to ARI for a half eaten Wendy's burger than to entertain an awful Habs trade offer.

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Jul. 19, 2022 at 12:00 a.m.

Windjammer

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I can't see Winnipeg doing that and not getting a 1st or getting any compensation for taking Hoffman as a dump.

They'd likely just wait until next summer.

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Jul. 19, 2022 at 12:01 a.m.

Not_Isles5513

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Jets say no. Not fair value. If PLD and Pat Brisson have been communicating with Ken Holland to try and force their way to Montreal it will be interesting to see what happens. I am not an expert on tampering by any means, but this seems like a scenario where the league may have to step in.

Jul. 19, 2022 at 12:01 a.m.

SMH

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Habs won't offer so much, they're rebuilding not contending

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Jul. 19, 2022 at 12:02 a.m.

Hockey_Soul

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I think a PLD trade has to start with an unprotected 2023 1st.

Jul. 19, 2022 at 12:02 a.m.

Not_Isles5513

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Quoting: Windjammer

I can't see Winnipeg doing that and not getting a 1st or getting any compensation for taking Hoffman as a dump.

They'd likely just wait until next summer.

Canadians won’t be able to bully Chevy. These rumors are beyond ridiculous.

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Jul. 19, 2022 at 12:05 a.m.

LIRIK

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Quoting: Windjammer

I can't see Winnipeg doing that and not getting a 1st or getting any compensation for taking Hoffman as a dump.

They'd likely just wait until next summer.

Could add a mid round pick to take Hoffman, but MTL have to dump 8M in cap space before that trade happen.

Giving a top 10 protected 1st is scary for the Habs. 2023 draft is so good, MTL 2023 1st is more valuable than a late 2022 1st.

Jul. 19, 2022 at 12:07 a.m.

Cheddamonkey37

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Wdym this one hurt? You didn’t give anything up lmao

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Jul. 19, 2022 at 12:08 a.m.

LIRIK

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Quoting: Cheddamonkey37

Wdym this one hurt? You didn’t give anything up lmao

Giving Barron hurts, he's our only RHD top prospect.

Jul. 19, 2022 at 12:10 a.m.

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Cheddamonkey37

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Quoting: LIRIK

Giving Barron hurts, he's our only RHD top prospect.

Meh nice player but that as a headliner for a PLD trade is nothing special at all

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Jul. 19, 2022 at 12:28 a.m.

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BigBadBurke

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As a fan of hockey, that doesn't hurt. And isn't nearly enough of a return for WPG to even consider it.

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Jul. 19, 2022 at 12:29 a.m.

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Not_Isles5513

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Quoting: BigBadBurke

As a fan of hockey, that doesn't hurt. And isn't nearly enough of a return for WPG to even consider it.

Can’t argue with you there 😉

Jul. 19, 2022 at 12:29 a.m.

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tsyls

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If we’re thinking about this situation logically, Chevy wants a player Montreal has 0 interest in moving. Who could that be? Suzuki? Caufield? Slaf? I’m not sure but either way jets aren’t just going to roll over and give PLD to the habs for a deal like this. I’d argue he’s worth more than this to a desperate contender at the TDL giving them 2 playoff runs with him.

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Jul. 19, 2022 at 12:29 a.m.

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BigBadBurke

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Quoting: Isles5513

Can’t argue with you there 😉

Except that you think I'm still not a fan of hockey, right

Jul. 19, 2022 at 12:36 a.m.

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Not_Isles5513

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Quoting: BigBadBurke

Except that you think I'm still not a fan of hockey, right

The Avs***

Jul. 19, 2022 at 12:37 a.m.

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BorisBagel

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Habs get PLD for nothing in 2 years when he’s a UFA

Jul. 19, 2022 at 12:46 a.m.

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BigBadBurke

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Quoting: BorisBagel

Habs get PLD for nothing in 2 years when he’s a UFA

He's gonna ask for 0$? Well shoot, sign us up!

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Jul. 19, 2022 at 1:22 a.m.

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SMH

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Quoting: Hockey_Mind

I think a PLD trade has to start with an unprotected 2023 1st.

You think wrong

Jul. 19, 2022 at 9:33 a.m.

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Windjammer

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Quoting: LIRIK

The first I would imagine is non-negotiable, so you would have to add Florida's first in 23.

Winnipeg is already doing Montreal a favour by trading Dubois at a discount in your trade, so Montreal's cap issues are their problem, not Winnipeg's.

If you want Winnipeg to help you out by taking Hoffman as a dump, add another first minimum for a 2 year dump. If that price is too high then you're free to move Hoffman elsewhere for a "mid pick."

Jul. 19, 2022 at 4:04 p.m.

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BorisBagel

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Quoting: BigBadBurke

He's gonna ask for 0$? Well shoot, sign us up!

He’s taking a home town discount already told Habs GM that

Jul. 19, 2022 at 4:25 p.m.

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Andy_Dick

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Quoting: BorisBagel

He’s taking a home town discount already told Habs GM that

LOL. He's going to get paid at Home Depot! His contract will state practices are optional as he'll need to honour his shifts at Home Depot. 0$ contract
For the Love of the game!.
It is written.

Jul. 19, 2022 at 7:01 p.m.

#22

BigBadBurke

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Quoting: Windjammer

Arizona didn't get a 1st in the Ghostisbehere dump. Why should WPG expect different?

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