Arizona deal makes no sense for the Yotes. Anaheim deal makes 0 scenes for NY. And giving up a first for Tarasenko is bad asset management.

I can't be the only one who thinks thats all for Barzal?????

You traded Barzal for a terrible return and added two players (Kadri and Tarasenko) who are not as good as Barzal .

Welcome to CapFriendly. Sometimes, it's not too friendly.

As an Anaheim fan, I wouldn't have the nerve to suggest this trade, in part because I try to be fair and balanced.

Moreover, the net result here is to exchange four years of 32-year-old Nazem Kadri for several more years of 25-year-old Matt Barzal, which cannot possibly be construed as progress.

Don't feel too bad about the criticism. All of us had rocky starts. Keep trying.

Barzal is a UFA and gets moved because Kadri is signed. There is no role for him and Nelson is cheaper. Tkachuk brought back two UFAs and a 1st, three years down the line. Barzal has not shown the ability to move the needle since Tavares was here. He's also due to be paid $10mm this year.

Barzal is an RFA... and $10M really?

Barzal is not a UFA and Kadri sucks, he's a 3rd liner,.

Barzal carried the isles to back to back Eastern conference finals.

10mil in cash, not 10mil against the cap. his deal was backloaded, he only made like 3mil the first year.

If you think Barzal is bringing more than a 1st and 2nd, you're dreaming. The only thing Barzal does better than Tarasenko, is skate. Kadri does not bring the playmaking, but he brings skills Barzal cannot... he's physical, he's aggressive, and he scores. Barzal moves because he's better than JGP and he does not fill the role of penalty killer. Barzal is also easier to move to Anaheim where they need a good center, they have a young club and they have the money to sign him.

Barzal is not a UFA.
Barzal is not due $10M.
Isles have been a better team since Tavares left.

Any other false claims you would like to post?

Yes, he gets paid $10mm this year. Yes, his cap hit is $7mm.

I read it wrong, like he would be $10M on an extension, I see a slight raise on the extension. Also, plenty of owners in the league who could care less about the money, especially since it counts against/towards revenue sharing with not only other teams but the players as well.

Sorry, RFA..... system swapped in UFA. He's still without a spot in this lineup and he's the easiest and best piece to move with a decent return. He is due $10mm this year.... his cap hit is less.

Barzal is better than Tarasenko at every aspect of the game besides shooting. Kadri is a 3rd line grinder who was carried by his teammates, he does not do anything better than Barzal.

Barzal is significantly better than Kadri + Tarasenko combined, especially when you factor in that Kadri and Tarasenko are old as sh*t.

I hope the isles miss the playoffs by 20 pts because isles fans have to be the most delusional fans in hockey.

Barzal is the best player on the isles by far. Why do you care how much Barzal is making in salary? His cap hit is only 7 mill.

Who cares if his real salary is a $1, $1M, or $10M when the only thing that matters is his cap hit is $7M with a QO offer of $8.4M which is right where his 8 year extension salary should be.

The trade comparison to Tkachuk is flawed, if you are using that as a base then who are the comparable's to Weegar and Hubeadeau in the trade which Calgary could move this year for at least 3 more 1st round picks. In total Calgary can walk away from the Tkachuk trade with 4 1st's, or 3 1st's and really good prospects.

This is not about the net result. This team is built to win now. Kadri and Tarasenko in place of Barzal and Bailey bring a significant lift to the scoring and the physical play of the forwards while keeping the defensive level up. Bailey is purely a salary move and Barzal is an issue of money and not enough spots; i don't see Barzal or Kadri moving to wing. Frankly, I'd rather move Beau, but he's less valuable as a trade chip, the money won't work, and we'd have too many centers.

The islanders are not built to win now, removing Barzal from the team and adding Kadri/Tarasenko makes them a lottery team.

The chances of the blues moving Tarasenko is very low. If you wanted to trade for Tarasenko it needed to be at the draft so we could have retained Perron. Since Perron left there is no reason to trade him if because we are still trying to compete this year. A late first and a meh prospect isn't enough to make the blues weaken their chances of competing. Maybe if they are doing bad they will deal him at the deadline

Tkachuk is a much better player than Barzal. It was an example of what a better player brought in value, not a comparison. And Florida had to give that up to make the money work. Barzal is not nearly as good as Tkachuk and he has not shown he is anywhere near an $8.4mm value. He has not even shown the offense to justify the $7mm AAV since he signed his current deal either.

Adding Kadri and Tarasenko is a net gain of 25-30 goals over what gets removed by moving Bailey and Barzal. Kadri is also better defensively and at face-offs than Barzal. If you avidly believe that is going to make us a lottery team, i don't know what to tell you.

It what everyone is telling you, the trades are really really bad for the Isles.

That is incorrect. Isles fans don't understand aging curves, Kadri would be lucky to hit 20 goals next season. Kadri sucks defensively, please know what you're talking about before spewing BS.
The Avalanche had the 4th worst face off win percentage in the league last season and won the cup, face-offs don't matter.

I don't think that it would make the isles a lottery team, I know it would happen. It's common sense. The isles are a retirement home for washed up 30 + forwards. They don't deserve to make the playoffs and they won't , the way the isles are currently constructed (especially in this thread) is bad for the game. Teams like this deserve to fail. It's a young mans game.


As you can see, 79% of NHL forwards have been better than Kadri defensively over the last 3 seasons...Hes terrible defensively.

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Facts are not working with the ACGM.

Tarasenko holds the cards because of his ntc. The Blues are still very competitive in their top 6 with boatloads of offense if they move him. And they have several players who need extensions next year.

His value will become zero if he is not traded in a deal he approves. An offseason trade right now, let's them find a team he'll accept and a deal that does not depend on the frenzy of the deadline or the risk that he gets hurt and cannot be moved.

The value for a UFA is fair, but Barzal could easily be offered in that deal instead of Holmstrom or the first. It just doesn't make sense for the Blues who don't need another center. Only 10 teams have the cap space to take on any significant contract and most of those are not competitive, so Tarasenko may reject those clubs while the Islanders were reportedly a place he would consider.