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Going for it all but at a cost

Created by: HockeyScotty
Team: 2022-23 New York Islanders
Initial Creation Date: Aug. 3, 2022
Published: Aug. 7, 2022
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Barzal returns to his B.C. roots in a swap for JT Miller, partial retention, and future draft picks. He is the better player in the deal; both have 1 year left on deals but Barzal is also RFA; hence the return.
NYI get a top line player and more affordable contract.

Then trade LW with Detroit straight up with Bertuzzi for Beauvillier who has 2 years of team control as is younger; thus the partial retention on that deal as well. Detroit gets younger and has an asset under team control for 2 years.

Then the UFA signing of Kadri comes in to complete the roster and playoff hopes renew in Long Island. The identity of this whole team is hard work, 200' game, and can roll out 3 scoring lines along with the grinders. Keep the goalie duo intact to ensure a deep playoff run is in the cards.

Miller and Bertuzzi extensions can get paid for by Varlamov's contract coming off next year then a new backup goalie can be found in the $1-2 million range.
Free Agent Signings
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2$750,000
2$750,000
RFAYEARSCAP HIT
6$5,000,000
3$2,500,000
2$850,000
2$825,000
1$825,000
UFAYEARSCAP HIT
7$6,750,000
Trades
1.
NYI
  1. Bertuzzi, Tyler ($1,500,000 retained)
DET
  1. Beauvillier, Anthony
2.
NYI
  1. Miller, J.T. ($1,250,000 retained)
  2. 2023 1st round pick (VAN)
  3. 2025 2nd round pick (VAN)
VAN
  1. Barzal, Mathew
Buyouts
Buried
DraftRound 1Round 2Round 3Round 4Round 5Round 6Round 7
2023
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2024
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2025
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ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES TooltipBONUSESCAP SPACE
23$82,500,000$80,089,963$245,796$1,287,500$2,410,037
Left WingCentreRight Wing
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Miller, J.T.
$4,000,000$4,000,000
C, LW, RW
UFA - 1
Kadri, Nazem
$6,750,000$6,750,000
C
UFA - 7
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Bailey, Josh
$5,000,000$5,000,000
RW, LW, C
UFA - 2
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Lee, Anders
$7,000,000$7,000,000
LW
NTC
UFA - 4
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Nelson, Brock
$6,000,000$6,000,000
C, LW
M-NTC
UFA - 3
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Palmieri, Kyle
$5,000,000$5,000,000
RW, LW
NTC
UFA - 3
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Bertuzzi, Tyler
$875,000$875,000
LW, RW
UFA - 1
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Pageau, Jean-Gabriel
$5,000,000$5,000,000
C
M-NTC
UFA - 4
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Wahlstrom, Oliver
$894,167$894,167 (Performance Bonus$537,500$538K)
RW
RFA - 1
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Martin, Matt
$1,500,000$1,500,000
LW, RW
UFA - 2
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Cizikas, Casey
$2,500,000$2,500,000
C
UFA - 5
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Clutterbuck, Cal
$1,750,000$1,750,000
RW
UFA - 2
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Parise, Zach
$750,000$750,000 (Performance Bonus$750,000$750K)
LW
UFA - 1
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Johnston, Ross
$1,100,000$1,100,000
LW
UFA - 4
Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
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Pelech, Adam
$5,750,000$5,750,000
LD
NTC
UFA - 7
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Pulock, Ryan
$6,150,000$6,150,000
RD
NTC
UFA - 8
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Varlamov, Semyon
$5,000,000$5,000,000
G
M-NTC
UFA - 1
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Romanov, Alexander
$2,500,000$2,500,000
LD
RFA - 3
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Dobson, Noah
$5,000,000$5,000,000
RD
RFA - 3
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Sorokin, Ilya
$4,000,000$4,000,000
G
UFA - 2
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Aho, Sebastian
$825,000$825,000
LD
UFA - 2
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Mayfield, Scott
$1,450,000$1,450,000
RD
UFA - 1
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Salo, Robin
$800,000$800,000
LD
UFA - 2

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Aug. 7, 2022 at 1:47 a.m.
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Canucks pass, we won't pay a 1st for a position of strength
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Aug. 7, 2022 at 1:56 a.m.
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Quoting: theleano1
Canucks pass, we won't pay a 1st for a position of strength


Petterson to LW. Problem solved.
Aug. 7, 2022 at 2:00 a.m.
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Petterson to LW. Problem solved.


As nice as it would be, much rather see the assets spent on defense
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Aug. 7, 2022 at 2:03 a.m.
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Quoting: theleano1
Canucks pass, we won't pay a 1st for a position of strength


luckily barzal isn't available for a 29 year old
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Aug. 7, 2022 at 2:03 a.m.
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Bertuzzi with $1,500,000 retained, Will cost far more then Beauvillier. Not even close.

And oh FYI Good luck getting Kadri for anything less then $8,500,000 to $9,000,000 per he's not signing for less then $7,000,000 pretty much guarantee you that.
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Aug. 7, 2022 at 2:07 a.m.
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luckily barzal isn't available for a 29 year old


A 29 year old that put up 40 more points than him
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Aug. 7, 2022 at 2:09 a.m.
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As nice as it would be, much rather see the assets spent on defense


It appears that the only high quality defenseman on the trade market is Chychrun right now.
Connor Murphy (RHD) from Chicago would be a good add; but no rumors on his market value at the moment (injured as well)

Otherwise it's a bit of a gamble:
Ethan Bear (Carolina)
1 of Walker/Roy (LA)
1 from Toronto (Holl or Sandin, ?)

With Florida, Dallas, Edmonton, Carolina (needs LHD), and a few other playoff teams in the mix of defense it's not a buyer's market.

Few left in the UFA cupboard either.
Aug. 7, 2022 at 2:13 a.m.
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A 29 year old that put up 40 more points than him


Miller plays with much better linemates both EV and on the PP. Quality of teammates affects production
Aug. 7, 2022 at 2:14 a.m.
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Bertuzzi with $1,500,000 retained, Will cost far more then Beauvillier. Not even close.

And oh FYI Good luck getting Kadri for anything less then $8,500,000 to $9,000,000 per he's not signing for less then $7,000,000 pretty much guarantee you that.


Detroit is about the only decent place he can get that and they probably wouldn't go for that much term (Anaheim, Buffalo, Arizona, Chicago are the only others with the Cap space); he would be like Klingberg on a 1 year deal and try again next year.

If he wants 6 or 7 years that is probably the contract he will get.
Aug. 7, 2022 at 2:15 a.m.
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Isles owners would never allow the Barzal trade to happen. He’s the face of the isles and there’s a high chance Barzal has a better overall impact than Miller next season. That trade would be go down as one of the worst in isles history.

This team misses the playoffs for sure
Aug. 7, 2022 at 2:34 a.m.
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Quoting: theleano1
Canucks pass, we won't pay a 1st for a position of strength


🤣 turning down Barzal for Miller, who you're going too loose and a first? I mean, come on dude.
Aug. 7, 2022 at 2:36 a.m.
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A 29 year old that put up 40 more points than him


The isles play a very defense heavy game. Put Barzal on basically anyother team and he's easily a 90 plus point guy. Also, Miller had a career year. Yoh honestly think he'll do it again this season? I mean, the guy was a career 50ish point guy till two seasons ago.
Aug. 7, 2022 at 2:41 a.m.
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🤣 turning down Barzal for Miller, who you're going too loose and a first? I mean, come on dude.

It's the fact Vancouver is already extremely deep at Center if it was 1 for 1 i'd do it but once we start adding more high quality pieces it makes very little sense to do it, if it was for Dobson it's a different story
Quoting: KooKoo4Kaapo
The isles play a very defense heavy game. Put Barzal on basically anyother team and he's easily a 90 plus point guy. Also, Miller had a career year. Yoh honestly think he'll do it again this season? I mean, the guy was a career 50ish point guy till two seasons ago.

Barzal is likely a 70-80 point guy i highly doubt he has a 40 point swing with a more offensive system, Miller has broken out since has played in Vancouver if this trade was 3 years ago sure it gets laughed out of the room, how ever it's not, Miller's value to day is of a 99 point 2 way power foward center that plays at every end of the ice, like i said i'd do the trade 1 for 1, wouldn't add too it, just makes zero sense from our pov
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Aug. 7, 2022 at 2:42 a.m.
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It's the fact Vancouver is already extremely deep at Center if it was 1 for 1 i'd do it but once we start adding more high quality pieces it makes very little sense to do it, if it was for Dobson it's a different story

Barzal is likely a 70-80 point guy i highly doubt he has a 40 point swing with a more offensive system, Miller has broken out since has played in Vancouver if this trade was 3 years ago sure it gets laughed out of the room, how ever it's not, Miller's value to day is of a 99 point 2 way power foward center that plays at every end of the ice, like i said i'd do the trade 1 for 1, wouldn't add too it, just makes zero sense from our pov


Alright guy, whatever you say. I've said it before and I'll say it again, I can not wait for Miller to walk for nothing.
Aug. 7, 2022 at 2:42 a.m.
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Miller plays with much better linemates both EV and on the PP. Quality of teammates affects production


Barzal has also played on a team that reached the ECF in back to back years, yes Miller has Better Teammates how ever not to the point where its a 40 point swing
Aug. 7, 2022 at 2:43 a.m.
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Alright guy, whatever you say. I've said it before and I'll say it again, I can not wait for Miller to walk for nothing.


lmao that's cute you think he will walk for nothing
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Aug. 7, 2022 at 2:44 a.m.
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lmao that's cute you think he will walk for nothing


I do. I think Vancouver will be a playoff team. Get kicked in the first round. And Miller walks in the off-season.
Aug. 7, 2022 at 2:44 a.m.
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It appears that the only high quality defenseman on the trade market is Chychrun right now.
Connor Murphy (RHD) from Chicago would be a good add; but no rumors on his market value at the moment (injured as well)

Otherwise it's a bit of a gamble:
Ethan Bear (Carolina)
1 of Walker/Roy (LA)
1 from Toronto (Holl or Sandin, ?)

With Florida, Dallas, Edmonton, Carolina (needs LHD), and a few other playoff teams in the mix of defense it's not a buyer's market.

Few left in the UFA cupboard either.


While that's true, i still don't see the big benefit for moving this many quality pieces for at best a lateral move, would rather wait to see who becomes available
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Aug. 7, 2022 at 2:45 a.m.
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I do. I think Vancouver will be a playoff team. Get kicked in the first round. And Miller walks in the off-season.


Vancouver is probably a playoff team but i highly doubt they don't trade him at TDL if they don't have a contract in place in fact management as already said they will trade him if that's the case
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Aug. 7, 2022 at 2:47 a.m.
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Vancouver is probably a playoff team but i highly doubt they don't trade him at TDL if they don't have a contract in place in fact management as already said they will trade him if that's the case


I couldn't imagine Vancouver being in a playoff spot and moving him. Regardless of the contract situation. I feel that's just a spit in the fans faces.
Aug. 7, 2022 at 2:53 a.m.
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I couldn't imagine Vancouver being in a playoff spot and moving him. Regardless of the contract situation. I feel that's just a spit in the fans faces.


Sometimes teams have to make tough choices, if that's whats best for the franchise then that's what they will do
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Aug. 7, 2022 at 2:54 a.m.
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It's the fact Vancouver is already extremely deep at Center if it was 1 for 1 i'd do it but once we start adding more high quality pieces it makes very little sense to do it, if it was for Dobson it's a different story

Barzal is likely a 70-80 point guy i highly doubt he has a 40 point swing with a more offensive system, Miller has broken out since has played in Vancouver if this trade was 3 years ago sure it gets laughed out of the room, how ever it's not, Miller's value to day is of a 99 point 2 way power foward center that plays at every end of the ice, like i said i'd do the trade 1 for 1, wouldn't add too it, just makes zero sense from our pov


Barzal hit 85 as a rookie you think he hasnt gotten better since? Rob schremp said hes a mackinnon level player with better linemates
Aug. 7, 2022 at 2:58 a.m.
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Barzal has also played on a team that reached the ECF in back to back years, yes Miller has Better Teammates how ever not to the point where its a 40 point swing


Wth does team success have anything to do with it? They got to those ECFs bc of shutdown defense and elite goaltending. Its not like they were busy scoring their way to the final 4.
Aug. 7, 2022 at 3:04 a.m.
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Barzal hit 85 as a rookie you think he hasnt gotten better since? Rob schremp said hes a mackinnon level player with better linemates


Scoring wise no, Having Tavers on that years team really helped him score 85, he is about an 80 point guy though, Rob schremp's opinion really has little value lmao
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Aug. 7, 2022 at 3:04 a.m.
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Wth does team success have anything to do with it? They got to those ECFs bc of shutdown defense and elite goaltending. Its not like they were busy scoring their way to the final 4.


a team that reached the ECF should not be brining down a players point totals by 30-40 points
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