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Going all in

Created by: Irish
Team: 2022-23 Edmonton Oilers
Initial Creation Date: Aug. 16, 2022
Published: Aug. 24, 2022
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reading the tea leaves from OilersNow conversations...
Kane as a rental makes the Oilers a favourite but adding Chychrun as well makes them a contender for a few more years. I'm a Broberg fan but the window is shrinking for the Draisaitl and McDavid years and the time to win is now. Trading a 3rd with Barrie is a necessary evil to move his salary but getting a decent RD prospect back in Chase Priskie softens the blow.
This roster is built to compete with the contenders. Additional moves may be necessary in 2023 to resign Bouchard, Skinner and few bottom six forwards but with just over $12M in cap space in 2023 that shouldn't be a huge deal, unless P.Kane wants to resign ;)
I think Desharnais is going to surprise a lot of people. The 6'7" RHD patterns his game after his childhood idol Chara. He needs to get stronger but he could be a poor man's Chara eventually.
I hate to buy out Derek Ryan but Gagner comes in cheaper and has a better two way game.
Free Agent Signings
RFAYEARSCAP HIT
1$950,000
UFAYEARSCAP HIT
1$1,250,000
1$850,000
CREATEDYEARSCAP HIT
Patrick, Kane
1$2,625,000
Trades
1.
EDM
    1. Kane, Patrick ($2,625,000)

    CHI trades Kane to ARI,
    ARI retains 50% of Kane's salary
    ARI trades Kane to EDM
    CHI
    1. Puljujärvi, Jesse
    2. Samorukov, Dmitri
    3. 2023 1st round pick (EDM)
    2.
    EDM
    1. Chychrun, Jakob
    ARI
    1. Broberg, Philip
    2. Tullio, Tyler
    3. 2023 2nd round pick (EDM)
    4. 2025 3rd round pick (EDM)
    3.
    EDM
    1. Priskie, Chase
    Additional Details:
    edited trade from Ryan Johnson to Chase Priskie
    BUF
    1. Barrie, Tyson
    2. 2023 3rd round pick (EDM)
    Buyouts
    Retained Salary Transactions
    DraftRound 1Round 2Round 3Round 4Round 5Round 6Round 7
    2023
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    2024
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    2025
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    Logo of the EDM
    Logo of the EDM
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    ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES TooltipBONUSESCAP SPACE
    20$82,500,000$82,230,167$896,000$850,000$269,833

    Roster

    Left WingCentreRight Wing
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    Hyman, Zach
    $5,500,000$5,500,000
    RW, LW
    NMC
    UFA - 6
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    McDavid, Connor
    $12,500,000$12,500,000
    C
    NMC
    UFA - 4
    Patrick, Kane
    $2,625,000$2,625,000
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    Kane, Evander
    $5,125,000$5,125,000
    LW, RW
    NMC
    UFA - 4
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    Draisaitl, Leon
    $8,500,000$8,500,000
    C, LW
    M-NTC, NMC
    UFA - 3
    Kessel, Phil
    $1,250,000$1,250,000
    RW
    UFA - 1
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    Janmark, Mattias
    $1,250,000$1,250,000
    LW, RW
    UFA - 1
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    Nugent-Hopkins, Ryan
    $5,125,000$5,125,000
    LW, C
    NMC
    UFA - 7
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    Yamamoto, Kailer
    $3,100,000$3,100,000
    RW
    RFA - 2
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    Foegele, Warren
    $2,750,000$2,750,000
    LW, RW
    UFA - 2
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    McLeod, Ryan
    $950,000$950,000
    C
    RFA - 1
    Gagner, Sam
    $850,000$850,000
    RW, C
    UFA - 1
    Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
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    Nurse, Darnell
    $9,250,000$9,250,000
    LD
    NMC
    UFA - 8
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    Ceci, Cody
    $3,250,000$3,250,000
    RD
    UFA - 3
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    Campbell, Jack
    $5,000,000$5,000,000
    G
    M-NTC
    UFA - 5
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    Chychrun, Jakob
    $4,600,000$4,600,000
    LD/RD
    UFA - 3
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    Bouchard, Evan
    $863,333$863,333 (Performance Bonus$850,000$850K)
    RD
    RFA - 1
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    Skinner, Stuart
    $750,000$750,000
    G
    UFA - 1
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    Kulak, Brett
    $2,750,000$2,750,000
    LD/RD
    UFA - 4
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    Desharnais, Vincent
    $762,500$762,500
    RD
    UFA - 2
    ScratchesInjured Reserve (IR)Long Term IR (LTIR)
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    Klefbom, Oscar
    $4,167,000$4,167,000
    LD
    M-NTC
    UFA - 1
    Logo of the Edmonton Oilers
    Smith, Mike
    $2,200,000$2,200,000
    G
    UFA - 1

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    Aug. 24, 2022 at 12:43 p.m.
    #1
    CD282
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    Why would Edmonton go All In this season? There is no logical reason for doing so.

    Also, the buyout window is closed, but it's pretty funny that you think Gagner has a better 2-way game than Ryan.
    Aug. 24, 2022 at 12:52 p.m.
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    Sabres definitely aren't paying for Barrie
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    Aug. 24, 2022 at 12:55 p.m.
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    Quoting: CD282
    Why would Edmonton go All In this season? There is no logical reason for doing so.

    Also, the buyout window is closed, but it's pretty funny that you think Gagner has a better 2-way game than Ryan.


    I don't really think this is going all in...cupboards are full, just loading up on high end talent this year for draft picks that we can regain.

    I like it all except the RD #3 which is where Foegele unfortunately comes in to play
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    Aug. 24, 2022 at 1:07 p.m.
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    Buffalo laughs
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    Aug. 24, 2022 at 1:14 p.m.
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    Quoting: CD282
    Why would Edmonton go All In this season? There is no logical reason for doing so.

    Also, the buyout window is closed, but it's pretty funny that you think Gagner has a better 2-way game than Ryan.


    He is actually. Stats don’t lie.
    Unconditional waivers for the purpose of buyout.
    Aug. 24, 2022 at 1:21 p.m.
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    Quoting: wojme
    Sabres definitely aren't paying for Barrie


    Possibly but also a good trade deadline piece for Buffalo to move for a pick/prospect
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    Aug. 24, 2022 at 1:35 p.m.
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    You just forget to include a few first in the Chych deal?
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    Aug. 24, 2022 at 1:36 p.m.
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    Quoting: Irish
    Possibly but also a good trade deadline piece for Buffalo to move for a pick/prospect


    Or they keep their prospect and not have to worry about the uncertainty of the trade deadline? Confused as to why you think Buffalo makes this move
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    Aug. 24, 2022 at 1:40 p.m.
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    Quoting: Irish
    Possibly but also a good trade deadline piece for Buffalo to move for a pick/prospect


    So they move a good prospect for a possibility of moving fir a different one? Pass.
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    Aug. 24, 2022 at 1:58 p.m.
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    Quoting: DangleCat
    You just forget to include a few first in the Chych deal?


    Broberg is an "A" prospect but a deal would probably require the 2nd rounder to be conditional that becomes a first if they make the final four, etc.
    Aug. 24, 2022 at 2:16 p.m.
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    Sabres arent interested. Sabres are guaranteed a 2nd if Johnson walks
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    Aug. 24, 2022 at 2:42 p.m.
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    Quoting: Shibbal18
    Sabres arent interested. Sabres are guaranteed a 2nd if Johnson walks


    yeah wishful thinking. I've edited the trade to Chase Priskie
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    Aug. 24, 2022 at 2:49 p.m.
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    Quoting: Irish
    Broberg is an "A" prospect but a deal would probably require the 2nd rounder to be conditional that becomes a first if they make the final four, etc.

    Holland already reportedly refused to include Broberg in any Chychrun discussions.
    Aug. 24, 2022 at 2:50 p.m.
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    Quoting: Irish
    He is actually. Stats don’t lie.

    Which stats would those be?

    Rels tell a different story: http://naturalstattrick.com/playercompare.php?fromseason=20192020&thruseason=20212022&stype=2&sit=5v5&score=all&stdoi=oi&rate=r&p1=8478585&p2=8474040&loc=B&gpfilt=none&fd=&td=&tgp=410&lines=single
    Aug. 24, 2022 at 4:24 p.m.
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    Quoting: CD282
    Why would Edmonton go All In this season? There is no logical reason for doing so.

    Also, the buyout window is closed, but it's pretty funny that you think Gagner has a better 2-way game than Ryan.


    Why would the Oilers not go all-in? Logical reason? McDavid and Draisaitl just went god-mode in the playoffs and proved they can make it to the conference finals. This team is a few solid pieces from winning a cup. Do you want McDavid and Draisaitl to walk in free-agency in a couple of years?
    Aug. 24, 2022 at 4:55 p.m.
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    Why would the Oilers not go all-in? Logical reason? McDavid and Draisaitl just went god-mode in the playoffs and proved they can make it to the conference finals. This team is a few solid pieces from winning a cup. Do you want McDavid and Draisaitl to walk in free-agency in a couple of years?


    That's exactly it. If you sell the future for one run this year, the likelihood of them leaving in 3 years goes up. It's pretty simple.
    Aug. 24, 2022 at 5:53 p.m.
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    Quoting: wojme
    Sabres definitely aren't paying for Barrie
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    Quoting: Irish
    Possibly but also a good trade deadline piece for Buffalo to move for a pick/prospect
    While I would not want to give up Ryan Johnson, I would definitely do the deal with Priskie.
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    Aug. 24, 2022 at 6:16 p.m.
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    Quoting: CD282
    That's exactly it. If you sell the future for one run this year, the likelihood of them leaving in 3 years goes up. It's pretty simple.


    I wouldn't categorize going all-in as a one-year event. Colorado has consistently gone all-in these past few seasons; Tampa much the same. It doesn't necessarily mean trading away every asset for one stab at the cup. The Oilers should be trading picks and prospects over these coming seasons to give themselves the best chance at winning the cup every season.
     
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