I dont think the rangers would accept that

Colorado isn’t giving up a 1st for an average backup. No team is

monahan would have to have a really good year just to have positive value

I'm actually down for that Caps trade at the TDL, but it would probably have to be Johansson and not Hathaway. I don't think Hathaway will be traded at all, I think Laviolette values him too much.

Also, it all depends on the year Monahan is having...if he isn't playing well then no way any team will be in for him.

COL seriously laughs at that a back up rental goalie for a 1st, while we are laughing at things Monahan getting a 2nd. I mean MTL fans just insanely overrating guys.

Dobby and a 3rd for Dado at 50%.

Not enough value for Montreal. If they’re willing to take Faksa, you say thank you very much

Dont think Nill would.
If we needed to move money,Dobby would be the first to go. Cheapest option.

Would have to revisit this trade closer to the deadline. I think Deboer will use his players better than Bones did. Ide like to see what the Stars roster can do with a new coach before i ship any of them out. Shame Klinger couldnt be here.

Is Dado in Montreal gonna be producing like he did with the Sens or Florida/Vegas?
Dont see Dallas without a 2nd,3rd or 4th in 2023. 3rd is already gone to Chicago i believe.

Would need to wait closer to deadline to give a final say on this. New coach for Faksa, new team for Dado. Let’s just see how it plays out for now

Dobby is off after this year. I just don’t see room for Faksa’s cap hit moving forward. And he’s been brutally bad recently. Bowness playing him non stop hasn’t helped anything

of course not , it was proposed by someone here. That is equal value and pretty fair for both sides. If you don't think so add some value to the conversation and say why and what needs to be adjusted

Bones ruined a few players, Gurianov and Klingberg were orobably affected the most by his system. Faksa was overplayed of course. But if Deboer plays players to their strengths , then Faksa should be part of a checking line and PK and should do well doing just that.


Maybe next season someone will need a guy like Faksa, and if he can bounce back we wont be losing too many picks to move him.

Like I said, im goving the roster till the deadline to pass judgement on who should go. Everyone deserves a shot with the new coach.

DeBoer doesn’t run a checking line. Klinger’s flaws have always been there they were just more noticeable in Bowness’ system. Guri needs to get his head on right. Proper usage will help but it’s still on him to produce

Kling made up for his flaws by producing points. Hard to do that in a dump and chase system. Klinger was the only guy to speak up about the system they were playing.

Deboer might not have a checking line but he has enough checking forwards to make one, lol. He can spread em out and hope those lines work if he wants. He’s not gonna rely on Faksa for goal scoring thats for sure. We’ll just have to wait and see how Deboer makes his lines and judge from there.

Guri will be fine. His strength is scoring goals and Deboer will use him for that. Guri played very good in our cup run, after Pavelski took over the team in the Calgary series that is. Shame Bowness got the credit for that and ended up sticking around for 2 years.

Bowness took Monty’s system to the cup finals. Shame nobody up front saw it for what it was. Guri will be just fine if used properly. I have no doubt. Having enough checking forwards for a checking line isn’t a good thing. Having Glendening on the fourth line at his cap hit is fine with me. Faksa takes up too much cap space and doesn’t do enough and will keep any line mates you give him from being productive offensively. Which is a BIG problem considering we have a lot of talented young forwards that need to be put into positions they can succeed. Faksa’s contract and reputation as a good defensive center (used to be, not any more) will ALWAYS automatically hand him too much TOI. He needs to go. Klinger is a third pair power play defenseman that wanted top pair money. To be fair he was playing top pair minutes but he got destroyed at even strength so imo he was playing above his ability at 5v5. If you want that guy on your team, trade for Nils and pocket the extra 6-7 million in cap space. The fact that Klinger wanted Seth Jones money makes me sick. I’m glad he’s gone

Bones got an extra 2 years after that run. Pretty sure thats credit to him. Which shouldnt of been. He didnt improve anything during the pause and we looked like garbage in the seeding round. Same style of play.
Then we play Calgary and all of a sudden people are noticing Pavelski stays after practice to tip pucks. Stars start playing more tipping/garbage pick up game and start looking better. You can credit Bones if you want, ide say Pavelski was the driving force behind our cup run.


I dont recall Klinger asking for 9 mil, what i heard was 7-8 mil. We did owe him a raise from his previous deal for sure but definitely not 9 mil. Any idea how much Nill’s offer was?
I would of gave him a 1 year contract just to see if it was Bones or decline causing his loss of production

8 million was the number released during the negotiation process. I read later on that the starting ask was the Seth Jones contract. Why do you think we owed him a raise? Because he was on a value deal through most of his contract? He signed that deal. That’s on him. We shouldn’t throw lots of money at him because he used to be a top pair defenseman. That’s just bad business and how bad contracts happen. Ask Chicago how that last Seabrook deal worked out. He will go to Anaheim and score his points and everybody will be running around saying “see he’s amazing”. But it’s a quiet enough market for nobody to be running around saying “geez this guy is crap 5v5”. Anaheim will cash him in at the TDL and I honestly hope we don’t have cap space to be going back after him next year. Points are important but if you’re bleeding just as many or more points at the other end of the ice you’re a net negative