If Norris is out long term

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Created by: Mediumyeet

Team: 2022-23 Vancouver Canucks

Initial Creation Date: Oct. 25, 2022

Published: Oct. 25, 2022

Salary Cap Mode: Basic

Trades

VAN

Bernard-Docker, Jacob
2023 1st round pick (OTT)

Additional Details:

Top 5 protected.

Conditional 2024 2nd round pick if Ottawa wins one playoff round and Bo plays 50% of remaining games.

OTT

Horvat, Bo

VAN

Gurianov, Denis
2024 3rd round pick (DAL)

DAL

Garland, Conor

VAN

Additional Details:

Top 10 protected

NJD

Demko, Thatcher
2023 4th round pick (NYR)

Buyouts

Braden Holtby: $1,900,000
Jake Virtanen: $500,000

Buried

Riley Stillman: $225,000 ($1,350,000)

Draft	Round 1	Round 2	Round 3	Round 4	Round 5	Round 6	Round 7
2023
2024
2025

ROSTER

LONG-TERM OUTLOOK

EMBED

TEXT-EMBED

ROSTER SIZE	SALARY CAP	CAP HIT	OVERAGES	BONUSES	CAP SPACE
23	$82,500,000	$69,942,084	$1,250,000	$3,357,500	$12,557,916

Left Wing	Centre	Right Wing
Podkolzin, Vasily $925,000$925,000 ($850,000$850K) RW, LW RFA - 2	Pettersson, Elias $7,350,000$7,350,000 C, LW UFA - 2	Boeser, Brock $6,650,000$6,650,000 RW UFA - 3
Kuzmenko, Andrei $950,000$950,000 ($850,000$850K) LW, RW UFA - 1	Miller, J.T. $5,250,000$5,250,000 C, LW, RW UFA - 1	Holtz, Alexander $894,167$894,167 ($850,000$850K) RW, LW RFA - 3
Mikheyev, Ilya $4,750,000$4,750,000 LW, RW M-NTC UFA - 4	Åman, Nils $883,750$883,750 ($82,500$82K) C RFA - 2	Höglander, Nils $891,667$891,667 ($300,000$300K) LW, RW RFA - 1
	Lazar, Curtis $1,000,000$1,000,000 RW, C UFA - 3	Gurianov, Denis $2,900,000$2,900,000 RW, LW UFA - 1
Pearson, Tanner $3,250,000$3,250,000 LW M-NTC UFA - 2	Joshua, Dakota $825,000$825,000 LW UFA - 2

Left Defense	Right Defense	Goaltender
Hughes, Quinn $7,850,000$7,850,000 LD UFA - 5	Bernard-Docker, Jacob $925,000$925,000 ($425,000$425K) RD RFA - 1	Blackwood, Mackenzie $2,800,000$2,800,000 G UFA - 1
Ekman-Larsson, Oliver $7,260,000$7,260,000 LD NMC UFA - 5	Myers, Tyler $6,000,000$6,000,000 RD M-NTC UFA - 2	Martin, Spencer $762,500$762,500 G UFA - 2
Dermott, Travis $1,500,000$1,500,000 LD/RD UFA - 1	Schenn, Luke $850,000$850,000 RD UFA - 1
Rathbone, Jack $850,000$850,000 LD UFA - 2	Burroughs, Kyle $750,000$750,000 LD/RD UFA - 1

Scratches	Injured Reserve (IR)	Long Term IR (LTIR)
		Ferland, Micheal $3,500,000$3,500,000 LW, RW M-NTC UFA - 1
		Poolman, Tucker $2,500,000$2,500,000 RD UFA - 3

Oct. 25, 2022 at 10:35 p.m.

imawesome

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That's an overpay for Horvat.

NJ trade is absolutely ridiculous

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Oct. 25, 2022 at 10:36 p.m.

majormoose007

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I'd much rather keep Garland

Oct. 25, 2022 at 10:44 p.m.

Riley816

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If Norris is out Pinto plays 2C. Brassard to 3C.

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Oct. 25, 2022 at 10:44 p.m.

Mediumyeet

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Quoting: majormoose007

I'd much rather keep Garland

I'd rather get rid of him and get the capspace.

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Oct. 25, 2022 at 10:45 p.m.

Mediumyeet

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Quoting: Riley816

If Norris is out Pinto plays 2C. Brassard to 3C.

There was an Ottawa fan that posted on here earlier saying they'd like to keep Pinto at 3C because that line has been so effective.

Oct. 25, 2022 at 10:46 p.m.

Mediumyeet

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Quoting: imawesome

That's an overpay for Horvat.

NJ trade is absolutely ridiculous

1st and a good prospect is pretty standard price for a top 6 rental C.

NJ trade is maybe ridiculous maybe not. Depending how much they value Holtz and how much they value solving their problem in net.

Oct. 25, 2022 at 10:47 p.m.

Riley816

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Quoting: Mediumyeet

There was an Ottawa fan that posted on here earlier saying they'd like to keep Pinto at 3C because that line has been so effective.

Ok. Brassard to 2C. Pinto stays 3C.

Oct. 25, 2022 at 10:53 p.m.

Borocop

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Quoting: Mediumyeet

There was an Ottawa fan that posted on here earlier saying they'd like to keep Pinto at 3C because that line has been so effective.

it was me, and i also in the same thread said i would 100% not move the 2023 1st in a deal for a rental 2c to replace him

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Oct. 25, 2022 at 10:53 p.m.

Mediumyeet

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Quoting: Riley816

Ok. Brassard to 2C. Pinto stays 3C.

They had this whole Pinto Brassard Horvat conversation on the other post so I will leave it there. It's one of the Ottawa ACGM if you want to go find it.

Oct. 25, 2022 at 10:54 p.m.

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Quoting: Borocop

it was me, and i also in the same thread said i would 100% not move the 2023 1st in a deal for a rental 2c to replace him

That's why I have it protected. Could be top 10 protected instead.

Oct. 25, 2022 at 10:58 p.m.

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Borocop

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Edited Oct. 25, 2022 at 11:55 p.m.

Quoting: Mediumyeet

That's why I have it protected. Could be top 10 protected instead.

idc about it being top 5 protected the sens arent finishin bottom 5, central scouting had 20 something A-rated prospects for this year on their preliminary rankings which is why were not moving the 2023 first at all for a rental stop gap, the draft is deep. A team who would re-sign horvat maybe but thats not the sens

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Oct. 25, 2022 at 11:17 p.m.

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Quoting: Borocop

idc about it being top 5 protected the sens arent finishin bottom 5, central scouting had 20 something A-rated prospects for this year on their preliminary rankings which is why were not moving the 2023 first at all for a rental stop gap. A team who would re-sign horvat maybe but thats not the sens

Fair enough. I don't expect them to have interest in Horvat anyways so any deal is pretty unlikely.

On another note. Do you think they would trade jbd and if so anyone on the Canucks that might interest them?

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Oct. 25, 2022 at 11:22 p.m.

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Quoting: Mediumyeet

honestly not really, the sens only real hole when healthy is RD but its the same for the canucks. I like schenn but hes not worth moving JBD for

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Oct. 25, 2022 at 11:50 p.m.

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Quoting: Mediumyeet

Right you are. NJD and OTT are fair value

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Oct. 26, 2022 at 8:33 a.m.

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Quoting: Mediumyeet

I'd rather get rid of him and get the capspace.

Dallas has $150K in cap space with a 22-man roster. Finding an extra $1M for Garland without dropping down to a 21-man roster isn't going to happen.

Oct. 26, 2022 at 12:59 p.m.

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Quoting: TheMooterus

Dallas has $150K in cap space with a 22-man roster. Finding an extra $1M for Garland without dropping down to a 21-man roster isn't going to happen.

Ya you're right. Canucks would have to take khudobin in the deal.

Oct. 26, 2022 at 5:19 p.m.

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Ottawa can't spend that much on a rental and they can't afford an extension for Horvat

They'll also need JBD in the near future. Doubt they'll trade him. Objective is probably to pair him with Sanderson later this season

Chabot - Zub
Sanderson - JBD
Brannstrom - Holden/Hamonic

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