Theres a trade on the horizon I Feel it in my loins my LEAF LOINS

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Created by: RowdyRoddy96

Team: 2022-23 Toronto Maple Leafs

Initial Creation Date: Oct. 25, 2022

Published: Oct. 25, 2022

Salary Cap Mode: Basic

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Smaller trades for now. Engvall and Holl seem to be odd men out. Chicago is in a tank meanwhile the Leafs now need to get better defensively. I called Connor Murphy a couple of seasons ago being traded to Toronto seems like the Josh Manson type of player yes he has faced multiple back issues in the past kinda like Muzzin but as for the last shot and for Dubas job Murphy is an immediate improvement especially on the right side and Chicago would be willing to take on to expiring contracts in order to retain future cap space for a massive spending splurge or for a Patrick Kane / Toews retention down the road ? The Schenn trade helps bolster the Leafs defensive depth that gets a massive physical boost that the Leafs lack back there and it was already made evident that they don't have big guys who can stop or step in when players like Jamie Benn assault your stars with cross checks to the back

Trades

VAN

Anderson, Joey
2024 7th round pick (TOR)

Draft	Round 1	Round 2	Round 3	Round 4	Round 5	Round 6	Round 7
2023
2024
2025

ROSTER

LONG-TERM OUTLOOK

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ROSTER SIZE	SALARY CAP	CAP HIT	OVERAGES	BONUSES	CAP SPACE
22	$82,500,000	$80,892,913	$212,500	$0	$1,607,087

Left Wing	Centre	Right Wing
Bunting, Michael $950,000$950,000 LW UFA - 1	Matthews, Auston $11,640,250$11,640,250 C UFA - 2	Marner, Mitchell $10,903,000$10,903,000 RW UFA - 3
Robertson, Nicholas $796,667$796,667 LW, RW RFA - 2	Tavares, John $11,000,000$11,000,000 C, LW NMC UFA - 3	Nylander, William $6,962,366$6,962,366 RW UFA - 2
Kerfoot, Alexander $3,500,000$3,500,000 LW, C, RW M-NTC UFA - 1	Järnkrok, Calle $2,100,000$2,100,000 RW, C, LW M-NTC UFA - 4	Aston-Reese, Zach $840,630$840,630 LW, RW UFA - 1
Simmonds, Wayne $900,000$900,000 RW, LW M-NTC UFA - 1	Kämpf, David $1,500,000$1,500,000 C UFA - 1	Aubé-Kubel, Nicolas $1,000,000$1,000,000 RW UFA - 1

Left Defense	Right Defense	Goaltender
Rielly, Morgan $7,500,000$7,500,000 LD NMC UFA - 8	Murphy, Connor $4,400,000$4,400,000 RD M-NTC UFA - 4	Samsonov, Ilya $1,800,000$1,800,000 G UFA - 1
	Brodie, TJ $5,000,000$5,000,000 LD/RD NTC UFA - 2	Murray, Matt $4,687,500$4,687,500 G M-NTC UFA - 2
Sandin, Rasmus $1,400,000$1,400,000 LD UFA - 2	Liljegren, Timothy $1,400,000$1,400,000 RD RFA - 2
Giordano, Mark $800,000$800,000 LD UFA - 2

Scratches	Injured Reserve (IR)	Long Term IR (LTIR)
Malgin, Denis $750,000$750,000 LW, RW UFA - 1		Muzzin, Jake $5,625,000$5,625,000 LD NTC UFA - 2
Schenn, Luke $850,000$850,000 RD UFA - 1

Oct. 25, 2022 at 11:19 p.m.

#26

GMBL

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In the description you said " they don't have big guys who can stop or step in when players like Jamie Benn assault your stars with cross checks to the back"

The Leafs do have Jordie, so the next time Dallas plays Toronto, it will be a double brother showdown!!! So, when Jamie is attacking Matthews, Jordie will go after Jason.

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Oct. 25, 2022 at 11:40 p.m.

#27

T0R

Joined: Aug. 2020

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Quoting: HockeyIsMyPassion61

Kerfoot is worthless to Chicago, And i'm sorry Niemela and a 2nd on top of it is nowhere near Murphy's value. Chychrun would get the equivalent of 2 1st round picks. Which is more closer to what Murphy would receive as well.

You guys love to crap on Topi even though he was defender of the tournament at the WJC & set the record for most points as an U-21 in Liiga as a defensemen. As for what i believe to be fair Value for Murphy due to his injury history i’d say a 1st +3rd + Voit + Engvall & Holl it would be a bigger package but i doubt Knies or Topi need to be included Murphy is good no doubt about it but the market rn isn’t high at all for players

Oct. 25, 2022 at 11:49 p.m.

#28

Petey

Go Nucks Go

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Quoting: RowdyRoddy96

Fair enough. How much do you think Schenn is worth? sorry about your early season slump..

Thanks for comforting us. Schenn is worth a 3rd to us or a late 2nd

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Oct. 26, 2022 at 12:32 a.m.

#29

ChiHawk

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Quoting: RowdyRoddy96

Chicago are already going through a rebuild. Engvall and Holl are just 1 yr left players that can fill in the gaps in their roster and keep Chicago cap compliant. Connor Murphy is young enough that he still has alot of facevalue as a player and he is not sticking around for a rebuild that might last about the length of the contract that he just signed. He is at a cap hit and term that most teams can manage even at a bargain what most teams would see but his previous injuries are where his value is marred. If he is healthy he is easily a Top 4 Caliber Defenseman who is responsible back checking in his own zone and moves bodies in front of the net and protects the goalie when injured he is just another LTIR cap casualty. Murphy won't fetch alot but even without a fair trade gauge he is easily worth at least two roster players and a mid to high pick at best and it's a price that I believe the Leafs will pay for a better backline.

LOL Chicago has no concern of being cap compliant and holl and engvall are worthless to them. Murphy is worth a late 1st and this isn't close. Engvall is on his best day worth a 3rd (likely a 4th) and Holl is worth about the same on his best day.

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Oct. 26, 2022 at 12:36 a.m.

#30

aadoyle

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There is a trade potentially coming yes

But I dont think its either of these guys

Oct. 26, 2022 at 12:44 a.m.

#31

BigShoots

Big Shoots

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Quoting: RowdyRoddy96

What type of overpayment?

a 3rd would be totally fine

Oct. 26, 2022 at 5:34 a.m.

#32

Hammerwise

Joined: Aug. 2018

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Horrible offers that have no interest to the other teams involved.

And if Keefe is playing Holl 20+ minutes a night, why do some fans still say "he looks like the odd man out"?

Oct. 26, 2022 at 1:17 p.m.

#33

sens65

Joined: Mar. 2018

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Quoting: RowdyRoddy96

What form of prospect like a Vogt or Niemela?

Probably

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