Time To Break Up the Band

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Created by: Wulfgar85

Team: 2022-23 Toronto Maple Leafs

Initial Creation Date: Oct. 29, 2022

Published: Oct. 29, 2022

Salary Cap Mode: Basic

Description

It's time the Leafs break up the band. Marner would fetch a great package. I'm tired of the status quo. This really has nothing to do with this season, but rather the whole core 4 time period. I was a believer of Dubas and and Shanny plan, but is clearly not working. I'm choosing to move Marner as my Major piece. This is nothing against Marner, I just believe he or Matthews would get us the better Package. Since Marner is the winger he gets the short stick.

Also the team and players I trade Marner is irreverent.

This is what type of package I would be looking for.

2 first rd
A affordable winger who can play in the top 6 now.
Top 4 D man preferably RD.
And Grade A prospect.

This is going to be the first of many breaking up the band Teams. Most will center around Moving Mitch Marner, who for the record is currently one of my favorite leafs behind JT and Rielly

Trades

TOR

Domi, Max
Jones, Seth ($2,000,000 retained)
Korchinski, Kevin
2023 1st round pick (CHI)
2024 1st round pick (TBL)

Additional Details:

I siad it didn't matter what team I choose but the Hawks would work out as a pretty good trade partner. Also I should mention that for this trade. Kane has already been traded from the Hawks to cup contender for a similar package as Marner. Which is why the Hawks can make this trade.

CHI

Additional Details:

Holl is for the 4th Rd pick

Draft	Round 1	Round 2	Round 3	Round 4	Round 5	Round 6	Round 7
2023
2024
2025

ROSTER

LONG-TERM OUTLOOK

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ROSTER SIZE	SALARY CAP	CAP HIT	OVERAGES	BONUSES	CAP SPACE
24	$82,500,000	$75,814,913	$212,500	$0	$6,685,087

Left Wing	Centre	Right Wing
Domi, Max $3,000,000$3,000,000 C, RW UFA - 1	Matthews, Auston $11,640,250$11,640,250 C UFA - 2	Nylander, William $6,962,366$6,962,366 RW UFA - 2
Robertson, Nicholas $796,667$796,667 LW, RW RFA - 2	Tavares, John $11,000,000$11,000,000 C, LW NMC UFA - 3	Bunting, Michael $950,000$950,000 LW UFA - 1
Kerfoot, Alexander $3,500,000$3,500,000 LW, C, RW M-NTC UFA - 1	Kämpf, David $1,500,000$1,500,000 C UFA - 1	Järnkrok, Calle $2,100,000$2,100,000 RW, C, LW M-NTC UFA - 4
Malgin, Denis $750,000$750,000 LW, RW UFA - 1	Engvall, Pierre $2,250,000$2,250,000 RW, LW UFA - 1	Aubé-Kubel, Nicolas $1,000,000$1,000,000 RW UFA - 1
Aston-Reese, Zach $840,630$840,630 LW, RW UFA - 1		Simmonds, Wayne $900,000$900,000 RW, LW M-NTC UFA - 1

Left Defense	Right Defense	Goaltender
Rielly, Morgan $7,500,000$7,500,000 LD NMC UFA - 8	Jones, Seth $7,500,000$7,500,000 RD NMC UFA - 8	Samsonov, Ilya $1,800,000$1,800,000 G UFA - 1
Giordano, Mark $800,000$800,000 LD UFA - 2	Brodie, TJ $5,000,000$5,000,000 LD/RD NTC UFA - 2	Källgren, Erik $750,000$750,000 G UFA - 1
Sandin, Rasmus $1,400,000$1,400,000 LD UFA - 2	Liljegren, Timothy $1,400,000$1,400,000 RD RFA - 2
Benn, Jordie $750,000$750,000 LD/RD UFA - 1	Mete, Victor $750,000$750,000 LD/RD UFA - 1

Scratches	Injured Reserve (IR)	Long Term IR (LTIR)
	Clifford, Kyle $762,500$762,500 LW UFA - 2	Muzzin, Jake $5,625,000$5,625,000 LD NTC UFA - 2
		Murray, Matt $4,687,500$4,687,500 G M-NTC UFA - 2

Oct. 29, 2022 at 10:05 p.m.

Lancebmx

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Hawks would never make that trade. They are embracing a full rebuild and are not trading prospects or picks for players that won't be around when they are competitive again.

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Oct. 29, 2022 at 10:07 p.m.

aadoyle

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Marner should not be the one getting moved.

So far of the 4 Marner and Tavares are the only 2 good looking ones

Nylander is just being Nylander rn so k we can explore a 1 for 1 with him

The main concern is Matthews. He looks lost out there.

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Oct. 29, 2022 at 10:08 p.m.

PenGoater99

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Chicago is in no position to give up multiple 1st round picks.

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Oct. 29, 2022 at 10:10 p.m.

Wulfgar85

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Did you even read anything. Also I know the Hawks are rebuilding, but even a rebuilding team needs good player. Also Marner is only 25 he still has a lot of hockey left. Also the Hawks have a ton of picks a a deep prospect pool do they could give that up and it wouldn't put a dent in their future. And they will be getting a great package for Kane.

Oct. 29, 2022 at 10:11 p.m.

SociallyHawkward

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Lmfao no.

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Oct. 29, 2022 at 10:15 p.m.

GMBL

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Quoting: Wulfgar85

Why trade Kane for a package, and take Marner? He's only 25 but he has a huge contract and only 3 years left. They are better off drafting guys with ELC. Kane will be returning a smaller package vs what they give up.

If anything they should trade back for DeBrincat if they are in a playoff spot and OTT is out for a 1st+2nd+3rd, UNO reverse.

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Oct. 29, 2022 at 10:16 p.m.

SociallyHawkward

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Quoting: Wulfgar85

You clearly know very little about the hawks situation yet you act like a pro. Hawks have a lot of depth defense prospects. 1 high end D prospect in korchinski. Hawks have maybe 3 forward prospects all together. They just traded debrincat who is arguably just as good as marner. No they would never even think about this deal.

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Oct. 29, 2022 at 10:16 p.m.

MadLin27

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Quoting: Wulfgar85

Marner would have to be traded to a contending team. Not Chicago..

Oct. 29, 2022 at 10:17 p.m.

MoSeider53

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Mitch Marner should be the last player that Kyle Dubas trades.

And there's no way that Kyle Davidson is eating $16,000,000 on Seth Jones for the next 8 years.

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Oct. 29, 2022 at 10:19 p.m.

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MadLin27

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Quoting: SociallyHawkward

Agree with everything you just said except take it easy on the Debrincat as good as Marner... There is a sizeable difference between those two players and that is no disrespect at all to Debrincat

Oct. 29, 2022 at 10:19 p.m.

#11

littlejerryseinfeld

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No one would retain 2 million for 8 years.

Also, horrible trade for toronto

Edit: unless those picks are unprotected

Oct. 29, 2022 at 10:20 p.m.

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Wulfgar85

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Quoting: MadLin27

Marner would have to be traded to a contending team. Not Chicago..

No he wouldn't leafs could trade Marner to the yotes if they wanted to. His NMC doesn't kick in till next season.

Oct. 29, 2022 at 10:20 p.m.

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littlejerryseinfeld

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Quoting: SociallyHawkward

Debrincat is a fine player, but he is a notch below marner

Oct. 29, 2022 at 10:22 p.m.

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Wulfgar85

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Quoting: SociallyHawkward

You are right I don't know much about the Hawks. They were honestly the first team I choose. Also Marner is a borderline line superstar in the nhl
debrincat is a great player but he is not on Mariners level.

Oct. 29, 2022 at 10:24 p.m.

#15

Wulfgar85

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I seeing a lots of comments on the Jones thing. I honestly did not realize he was in the first year of his contract I thought he was closer to the end. So that is my mistake

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Oct. 29, 2022 at 10:24 p.m.

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MadLin27

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Quoting: Wulfgar85

No he wouldn't leafs could trade Marner to the yotes if they wanted to. His NMC doesn't kick in till next season.

I'm not talking about his NMC.
I am saying you can't trade Marner to rebuilding teams because they don't want to trade futures and top prospects for a player who is gonna walk in 2.5 years when they aren't ready to win yet anyway

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Oct. 29, 2022 at 10:25 p.m.

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I can't see any team in their right mind giving up that much for 3 years of a heavily overpaid complimentary winger with an NMC starting next year. I'd imagine the Leafs are stuck with him.

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Oct. 29, 2022 at 10:26 p.m.

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Wulfgar85

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Quoting: HockeyIsMyPassion61

Mitch Marner should be the last player that Kyle Dubas trades.

And there's no way that Kyle Davidson is eating $16,000,000 on Seth Jones for the next 8 years.

I will agree to disagree, I think that Marner should be the first player move. Again this is nothing against Marner, I think he is a hell of a hockey player, but the goal win the cup. Sometimes you have to move you're best player.

Oct. 29, 2022 at 10:31 p.m.

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Wulfgar85

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Quoting: Windjammer

I can't see any team in their right mind giving up that much for 3 years of a heavily overpaid complimentary winger with an NMC starting next year. I'd imagine the Leafs are stuck with him.

I'm not even going to try and have a reasonable conversation with you. Anyone who calling Marner a overpaid ccomplimentary player is just clearly trying to troll

Oct. 29, 2022 at 10:33 p.m.

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MoSeider53

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Quoting: Wulfgar85

You honestly think that this is a great haul for Mitch Marner? Seth Jones is so overrated it isn't funny. Domi+Jones and i got news for you, Chicago isn't trading a 2023 1st round pick that could land them Connor Bedard.

Oct. 29, 2022 at 10:39 p.m.

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Wulfgar85

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Quoting: HockeyIsMyPassion61

The Blackhawks pick this year year would obviously be lottery protected.

Also it's not so much about the players I choose for Marner but the package. Which I mentioned

It's
2 1st
Top 6 winger
Top 4 D( but like a really good top 4 D, not a guy like Holl)
Top grade A prospect

Oct. 29, 2022 at 10:43 p.m.

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MoSeider53

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Quoting: Wulfgar85

I seeing a lots of comments on the Jones thing. I honestly did not realize he was in the first year of his contract I thought he was closer to the end. So that is my mistake

He's in year one of his 8 year deal with Chicago.

Oct. 29, 2022 at 10:49 p.m.

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Wulfgar85

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Quoting: HockeyIsMyPassion61

He's in year one of his 8 year deal with Chicago.

Yeah I realized that now, but I'm not making changes. I really just came here tonight because it's been a tough go in real life atm. I needed people to talk hockey with.

You may not like my trade, but I've enjoyed this little banter back and forth. I won't entertain the trolls, I have no time for that, but you sir I will talk hockey anytime, have a great night

Oct. 29, 2022 at 10:52 p.m.

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Wulfgar85

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Also SociallyHawkward, I enjoyed chatting with you as well, I hope you come out for more of my breaking up the band trade, even when they don't involve the Hawks.

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Oct. 29, 2022 at 11:56 p.m.

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MisstheWhalers

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I read the description, that trade makes zero sense for Chicago and is terrible for them.

Marner while a great player would be difficult for a lot of teams to fit due to his cap hit, could see him being a fit in NJ and a big trade there possible but in reality Marner isn't getting traded, maybe Nylander gets dealt but even that seems unlikely.

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