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the path to bedard 1

Created by: zk97
Team: 2022-23 Montreal Canadiens
Initial Creation Date: Nov. 20, 2022
Published: Nov. 30, 2022
Salary Cap Mode: Basic
Description
Pre-trades lines:

22 Cole CAUFIELD // 14 Nick SUZUKI // 77 Kirby DACH

68 Mike HOFFMAN // 28 Christian DVORAK // 11 Brendan GALLAGHER

27 Jonathan DROUIN // 91 Sean MONAHAN // 17 Josh ANDERSON

55 Michael PEZZETTA // 71 Jake EVANS // 40 Joel ARMIA

(63 Evgenii DADONOV)


8 Mike MATHESON // 21 Kaiden GUHLE

44 Joel EDMUNDSON // 58 David SAVARD

54 Jordan HARRIS // 26 Johnathan KOVACEVIC

(72 Arber XHEKAJ, 6 Chris WIDEMAN)


34 Jake ALLEN

35 Sam MONTEMBEAULT

~~~

PP:
Monahan
Caufield-Dach-Suzuki
Matheson

Gallagher
Drouin-Dvorak-Hoffman
Guhle

PK:
Evans-Armia-Edmundson-Savard
Dvorak-Suzuki-Guhle-Harris
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This TDL is a very important one for the Canadiens. During training camp, we saw that many players are close to cracking the NHL, and that some will not fit into future plans. Vets need to be let go with the emergence of young players.
This is a list of things I believe that management should be doing this deadline:

- Trade Mike Hoffman, if the price is right
Hoffman's stint in Montreal hasn't been ideal, in fact, it's been far from it. It's time to cut ties. He needs to go. If they can get any sort of positive return for him, they have to take it. If it costs up to a 4th, then take it. Anything higher and waiting is fine.

- Trade Jonathan Drouin as long as you don't have to pay to do so
Like Hoffman, Drouin's (longer) stint in Montreal hasn't been great. He's had many injuries, media pressure, and had to take a break for his mental health. I feel like he could thrive in a smaller market, so if you can get a positive return for Drouin, send him out for his own good.

- Ensure Evgenii Dadonov is a Canadien for only this year
Dadonov has not been good at all in Montreal. It's not a fit for him. I think that if you can trade him at the deadline for a net or positive return, you do so. And you don't even consider resigning him, especially when there's so many young guys who are so close to ready.

- Trade Sean Monahan
I think that it's reasonable to assume Monahan has been good in limited time with Montreal. He's recovered from his injuries and even though he's not the same player he used to be, it's reasonable to say he'll get a high round pick. There's no use keeping him considering there's lots of guys who can take his middle six spot next season.

- Create room for the young D
This season, four rookie defensemen suited up for the Canadiens: Kaiden Guhle, Jordan Harris, Arber Xhekaj, Johnathan Kovacevic. Harris, Guhle, and Kovacevic should be mainstays for the remainder of the season, whereas Xhekaj's spot is not fully safe. With Mattias Norlinder, Justin Barron, Lane Hutson, Nicolas Beaudin, and Logan Mailloux (?) in the system, some of the vets will need to be moved. Norlinder and Barron are probably ready by 23-24, whereas Hutson, Beaudin, and Mailloux may take a while to come to the NHL.

Post-trades lines:


22 Cole CAUFIELD // 14 Nick SUZUKI // 77 Kirby DACH

17 Josh ANDERSON // 28 Christian DVORAK // 11 Brendan GALLAGHER

20 Juraj SLAFKOVSKY // 71 Jake EVANS* // 56 Jesse YLONEN^

37 Warren FOEGELE^ // 32 Rem PITLICK* // 40 Joel ARMIA^

(63 Evgenii DADONOV, 55 Michael PEZZETTA)


8 Mike MATHESON // 21 Kaiden GUHLE

54 Jordan HARRIS // 26 Johnathan KOVACEVIC`

72 Arber XHEKAJ` // 58 David SAVARD

(6 Chris WIDEMAN)


34 Jake ALLEN

35 Sam MONTEMBEAULT

~~~

PP:
Dach
Caufield-Slafkovsky-Suzuki
Matheson

Gallagher
Anderson-Dvorak-Ylonen
Guhle

PK:
Evans-Armia-Guhle-Savard
Suzuki-Dvorak-Harris-Kovacevic

Notes:

Positions with * will be occupied by 2 of these players, to see what their NHL game looks like:

13 Mitchell STEPHENS
32 Rem PITLICK
53 Jan MYSAK
71 Jake EVANS
75 Nate SCHNARR
90 Anthony RICHARD

Positions with ^ will be occupied by 3 of these players, to see what their NHL game looks like:

37 Warren FOEGELE
40 Joel ARMIA
49 Rafael HARVEY-PINARD
55 Michael PEZZETTA
56 Jesse YLONEN
63 Evgenii DADONOV
90 Anthony RICHARD

Positions with ` will be occupied by 3 of these players, to see what their NHL game looks like:

6 Chris WIDEMAN
26 Johnathan KOVACEVIC
52 Justin BARRON
59 Mattias NORLINDER
64 Corey SCHUENEMAN
72 Arber XHEKAJ
74 Nicolas BEAUDIN

The following players will be given looks at both the NHL level and the AHL level once they return from their respective leagues. Position where they play will be listed on the player:
Example: 00 Joe BOB (NHL Position | AHL Position)

48 Filip MESAR (3C / 3RW | 2RW / 3RW)
51 Emil HEINEMAN (3LW | 2LW / 3LW)
62 Owen BECK (3C | 1C / 2C / 3C)
85 Lane HUTSON (3LD | 2LD / 3LD / 3RD)
86 Riley KIDNEY (4C | 2C / 3C)
89 Cedrick GUINDON ( X | 3LW / 4LW)
90 Sean FARRELL (3LW | 2LW / 3LW)
94 Logan MAILLOUX (3RD | 2RD / 3RD)
97 Joshua ROY (3LW / 3RW / 4LW / 4RW | 2LW / 2RW / 3LW / 3RW)
Trades
1.
MTL
    Future Consideration
    ARI
    1. Hoffman, Mike
    2. 2023 4th round pick (PIT)
    Additional Details:
    I think that ARZ is the best, if not only fit, for Mike Hoffman. He'll get some playing time there, and the Yotes could probably move him next TDL for a positive return (2nd? 3rd? who knows what the market will look like)
    2.
    MTL
    1. Foegele, Warren
    2. 2023 5th round pick (EDM)
    Additional Details:
    BEFORE KANE RETURNS : Drouin-McDavid-Hyman // Nuge-Drai-Pulju // Holloway-McLeod-Yamamoto // Janmark-Ryan-Kostin
    | AFTER KANE RETURNS: Kane-McDavid-Hyman // Nuge-Draisaitl-Pulju // Holloway-McLeod-Yamamoto // Drouin-Ryan-Shore
    EDM
    1. Drouin, Jonathan ($2,750,000 retained)
    Additional Details:
    Hear me out, hear me out. Sure Drouin hasn't been great this season (4 pts in 12 GP before sustaining that injury which will keep him out for 5ish weeks) but I truly believe that sending him to the Oilers will help both teams. He could get a shot with McDavid or Draisaitl once healthy again, and once Kane is back, Drouin can either take a bottom six spot, or continue playing top six, which could allow one of Kane, Nuge, or Hyman to run a third line. Not like they're paying much anyway... and it's a net cap move.
    3.
    MTL
    1. 2023 1st round pick (TOR)
    Additional Details:
    UNHEALTHY LINES: Giordano-Edmundson // Sandin-Liljegren // Benn-Holl
    HEALTHY LINES: Rielly-Brodie // Edmundson-Liljegren // Giordano-Sandin (Holl's probably moved by this point)
    TOR
    1. Edmundson, Joel
    Additional Details:
    With 3/4 of their top 4 defensemen out, the Leafs may need to make a trade so that they don't have a dude older than time itself playing with a pylon on their top pair (assuming that Sandin and Liljegren will be the second pair, and Benn with whoever on the third). Edmundson is a good add for that. Sure, he's been a bit rough, but he missed all of training camp and a good portion of the season. He'll take some time to adjust. This would also make Toronto's defense extremely strong if they become healthy (except Muzzin).
    4.
    MTL
    1. 2024 1st round pick (COL)
    COL
    1. Monahan, Sean ($3,187,500 retained)
    2. 2023 4th round pick (VGK)
    Additional Details:
    Rumours have swirled around linking Sean Monahan to the Colorado Avalanche. Personally, I'm not too sure why, considering Newhook is doing fine, and one of Landeskog/Rantanen/Rodrigues can take over. But if he gets moved there, I think he could be a decent middle six option, and would fit into the cap considering the Avs are projected to have about 8.4M of deadline cap space. Do I know what his return looks like? No, because he was good for the first part of the season (so far), and then slowed down when moved to C. Maybe he looks to be a winger from now on.
    Buyouts
    Retained Salary Transactions
    DraftRound 1Round 2Round 3Round 4Round 5Round 6Round 7
    2023
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    2024
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    2025
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    ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES TooltipBONUSESCAP SPACE
    23$82,500,000$66,815,832$1,132,500$5,277,500$15,684,168
    Left WingCentreRight Wing
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    $880,833$880,833 (Performance Bonus$850,000$850K)
    LW, RW
    UFA - 1
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    $7,875,000$7,875,000
    C
    UFA - 8
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    $3,362,500$3,362,500
    C, RW
    RFA - 4
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    $5,500,000$5,500,000
    RW, LW
    M-NTC
    UFA - 5
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    $4,450,000$4,450,000
    C
    UFA - 3
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    $6,500,000$6,500,000
    RW, LW
    M-NTC, NMC
    UFA - 5
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    $950,000$950,000 (Performance Bonus$3,500,000$4M)
    RW, LW
    RFA - 3
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    $1,700,000$1,700,000
    C
    UFA - 3
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    $880,833$880,833
    RW, LW
    RFA - 1
    Logo of the Edmonton Oilers
    $2,750,000$2,750,000
    LW, RW
    UFA - 2
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    $1,100,000$1,100,000
    LW, RW
    UFA - 2
    Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
    $3,400,000$3,400,000
    RW, LW
    UFA - 3
    Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
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    $4,875,000$4,875,000
    LD
    M-NTC
    UFA - 4
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    $863,333$863,333 (Performance Bonus$420,000$420K)
    LD/RD
    RFA - 3
    Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
    $2,875,000$2,875,000
    G
    UFA - 1
    Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
    $842,500$842,500 (Performance Bonus$507,500$508K)
    LD/RD
    RFA - 1
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    $766,667$766,667
    RD
    UFA - 3
    Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
    $1,000,000$1,000,000
    G
    UFA - 2
    Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
    $828,333$828,333
    LD/RD
    RFA - 2
    Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
    $3,500,000$3,500,000
    RD
    UFA - 3
    ScratchesInjured Reserve (IR)Long Term IR (LTIR)
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    $2,500,000$2,500,000
    RW, LW
    M-NTC
    UFA - 1
    Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
    $10,500,000$10,500,000
    G
    NMC
    UFA - 4
    Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
    $762,500$762,500
    RD
    UFA - 2
    Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
    $3,400,000$3,400,000
    LW, RW
    UFA - 1
    Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
    $750,000$750,000
    LW, RW
    UFA - 1

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    Nov. 30, 2022 at 4:57 p.m.
    #1
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    Montreal is going to be too far out of the bedard race by the deadline, they’re really not a bad team.

    As far as the trades go:
    Arizona wants a 2nd, he’s a .5 player right now, and his hit is $4.5m, that’s going to cost to move.

    Toronto isn’t going to use their 23 1st on JE when guys like chychrun and Kane are out there, plus others.

    Colorado might do it, but I think they’d aim higher with their 24 1st as well.
    Nov. 30, 2022 at 5:00 p.m.
    #2
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    We're not using a first on Joel Edmundson when a guy like Timo Meier is made available. I don't think any team is using a first on Joel Edmundson
    Nov. 30, 2022 at 5:06 p.m.
    #3
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    what rumours? I have yet to see any insider link the avs to the trade market, nevermind linking avs to a specific player
    Nov. 30, 2022 at 5:23 p.m.
    #4
    Owly
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    I wonder how many years of the Leafs never giving Montreal a first at the deadline before Hab fans stop dreaming of it happening.
    Nov. 30, 2022 at 8:16 p.m.
    #5
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    Quoting: coga16
    what rumours? I have yet to see any insider link the avs to the trade market, nevermind linking avs to a specific player


    It is the MTL fan board on Reddit 🤣
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    Nov. 30, 2022 at 9:05 p.m.
    #6
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    Quoting: coga16
    what rumours? I have yet to see any insider link the avs to the trade market, nevermind linking avs to a specific player


    It seems like every Habs fan on here is linking Monahan to the Avs but no Avs fans want Monahan circa 2022. If we could get Monahan 2014-2019 great, but he'll never be that guy again.
    Dec. 1, 2022 at 12:04 a.m.
    #7
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    Rumors from whom? Literally no one in Colorado has reported anything and there has been 0 reports from national media.

    All I ever see is Montreal fans posting trades on this site and Avs fans repeatedly and emphatically declining.
    Dec. 1, 2022 at 6:53 p.m.
    #8
    H.Lindholm Lover
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    for the 1500th time. Joel isnt worth that. leafs aren't spending a first on a D man when they are getting the best defense they've had since Matthews joined the team and their top 3 isn't even playing
     
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