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Boeser actual cost

Created by: Campabee
Team: 2022-23 Montreal Canadiens
Initial Creation Date: Dec. 6, 2022
Published: Dec. 6, 2022
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This is the minimum price, if you don't like it, stop trading for Boeser.
Trades
1.
VAN
  1. Barron, Justin
  2. 2023 1st round pick (MTL)
  3. 2023 2nd round pick (MTL)
Additional Details:
higher of the Montreal/Florida picks (top 10 protected) becomes the lower of the picks if either or both are top 10.
2.
MTL
VAN
  1. Dadonov, Evgeni
  2. Drouin, Jonathan
  3. Hoffman, Mike
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To the moon
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DraftRound 1Round 2Round 3Round 4Round 5Round 6Round 7
2023
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2024
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2025
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ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES TooltipBONUSESCAP SPACE
23$82,500,000$68,647,499$1,132,500$5,277,500$13,852,501
Left WingCentreRight Wing
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$880,833$880,833 (Performance Bonus$850,000$850K)
LW, RW
UFA - 1
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$7,875,000$7,875,000
C
UFA - 8
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$3,362,500$3,362,500
C, RW
RFA - 4
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$5,500,000$5,500,000
RW, LW
M-NTC
UFA - 5
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$6,375,000$6,375,000
C, LW, RW
M-NTC
UFA - 1
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$6,650,000$6,650,000
RW
UFA - 3
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$950,000$950,000 (Performance Bonus$3,500,000$4M)
RW, LW
RFA - 3
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$4,450,000$4,450,000
C
UFA - 3
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$6,500,000$6,500,000
RW, LW
M-NTC, NMC
UFA - 5
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$1,100,000$1,100,000
LW, RW
UFA - 2
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$1,700,000$1,700,000
C
UFA - 3
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$3,400,000$3,400,000
RW, LW
UFA - 3
Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
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$863,333$863,333 (Performance Bonus$420,000$420K)
LD/RD
RFA - 3
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$3,500,000$3,500,000
RD
UFA - 3
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$2,875,000$2,875,000
G
UFA - 1
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$842,500$842,500 (Performance Bonus$507,500$508K)
LD/RD
RFA - 1
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$766,667$766,667
RD
UFA - 3
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$1,000,000$1,000,000
G
UFA - 2
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$828,333$828,333
LD/RD
RFA - 2
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$4,875,000$4,875,000
LD
M-NTC
UFA - 4
ScratchesInjured Reserve (IR)Long Term IR (LTIR)
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$750,000$750,000
LW, RW
UFA - 1
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$10,500,000$10,500,000
G
NMC
UFA - 4
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$875,000$875,000
LD/RD
M-NTC
UFA - 2
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$3,400,000$3,400,000
LW, RW
UFA - 1
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$762,500$762,500
RD
UFA - 2

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Dec. 6, 2022 at 9:46 a.m.
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No one trades for Boeser.

This was what the Canucks wanted for peak JT Miller last year with a 1 year term left.

That didn't work for well for the Canucks when they took a hard line on Miller return prices.

Boeser has bleeded scoring chances against this season with a team leading 36 scoring chances against with him on the ice. That along with the benchings and healthy scratch threats. This isnt close to peak Miller hype.

Habs have enough overpaid wingers, Boeser just does not fit without a winger going back like Armia or Hoffman.
Dec. 6, 2022 at 9:58 a.m.
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Quoting: Koskinen_The_Great
No one trades for Boeser.

This was what the Canucks wanted for peak JT Miller last year with a 1 year term left.

That didn't work for well for the Canucks when they took a hard line on Miller return prices.

Boeser has bleeded scoring chances against this season with a team leading 36 scoring chances against with him on the ice. That along with the benchings and healthy scratch threats. This isnt close to peak Miller hype.


Boeser is on pace for 65 points

Last time I checked hockey was a team sport, meaning that narrowing down scoring chances against to a single player has as much value as +/- IMO. It is just such a useless stat
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Dec. 6, 2022 at 10:10 a.m.
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I seriously doubt Boeser will cost this much. Just about nothing points to the fact that Boeser is a hot commodity around the league, and even VAN is planning to move him only to presumably create cap space for re-signing Horvat.

There's likely something going on between him and VAN front office / coaching. Otherwise Boudreau wouldn't openly claim that he plans to healthy scratch him (which ultimately didn't happen), and the talks of him being allowed to look for a trade for himself.

This is conjecture, but usually when there's smoke, there's fire. And if they truly plan to just move him to give him a re-start somewhere else, while gaining cap help, the valuation in this trade is going to age like milk.
Dec. 6, 2022 at 12:17 p.m.
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Quoting: Campabee
Boeser is on pace for 65 points

Last time I checked hockey was a team sport, meaning that narrowing down scoring chances against to a single player has as much value as +/- IMO. It is just such a useless stat


You are picking your own narrative. Even the Canucks scribes have the return very low

https://theathletic.com/3973820/2022/12/06/canucks-ilya-mikheyev-brock-boeser/

"Colleagues Thomas Drance and Rick Dhaliwal reported that the Canucks understand “that the return will be relatively pedestrian” if a Boeser trade is found. It shouldn’t come as a surprise that his value is minimal given the market conditions that the Oliver Bjorkstrand trade in the offseason hinted at, for example."

"Some clubs will therefore frame Boeser as an oft-injured, one-dimensional player who doesn’t score consistently enough at five-on-five to justify his $6.66 million cap hit."
Dec. 6, 2022 at 1:03 p.m.
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You kidding right ?!
Dec. 6, 2022 at 1:16 p.m.
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Quoting: Mental_yuppi
You kidding right ?!


He's going overboard, for sure.
Hockey pundits were saying in the Summer that Boeser's 7M qualifying offer was worth walking away from the player. He has only torpedo'd his value further and he makes too much money.

Boeser is a soft, perimeter player that plays wing. Those are 3 things in hockey that are never valued unless you actually score goals and Boeser has never scored more than 29 goals in a season.
Ppl comparing him to Josh Anderson, they clearly don't understand how a market works.
Josh is neither a perimeter player or soft yet can score like Boeser with multiple 20 goal seasons whereas Anderson has played on bad teams in bottom 6 roles whereas Boeser has had Petey feeding him for years.

Mikheyev is outshining Boeser in a span of a few months on Petey's wing.

There is little to no zero chance Boeser is traded for a 1st without significant money retained or money going back.
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Dec. 6, 2022 at 1:36 p.m.
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Quoting: Koskinen_The_Great
He's going overboard, for sure.
Hockey pundits were saying in the Summer that Boeser's 7M qualifying offer was worth walking away from the player. He has only torpedo'd his value further and he makes too much money.

Boeser is a soft, perimeter player that plays wing. Those are 3 things in hockey that are never valued unless you actually score goals and Boeser has never scored more than 29 goals in a season.
Ppl comparing him to Josh Anderson, they clearly don't understand how a market works.
Josh is neither a perimeter player or soft yet can score like Boeser with multiple 20 goal seasons whereas Anderson has played on bad teams in bottom 6 roles whereas Boeser has had Petey feeding him for years.

Mikheyev is outshining Boeser in a span of a few months on Petey's wing.

There is little to no zero chance Boeser is traded for a 1st without significant money retained or money going back.


Hey to be fair, I never compared him to Josh and players like Boeser have a place in hockey just as much as Anderson. Boeser is more of what we wanted Drouin to become, a 50+ point setup winger which at peak value would be worth a 1st + 2nd + good prospect right now given that he is on an almost ppg pace, signed for 3 more years and at less than 7 mil (think 2014-15 Voracek value).
Dec. 6, 2022 at 1:40 p.m.
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I think this is a little rich - I think Barron & a 2nd (or comparable value from another team) would be enough.

I also would be shocked to see this as an in-season trade. All the teams that have the cap space to add Boeser are the teams that shouldn't be spending futures to add a veteran like him. In the summer, when his deal is down to 2x$6.65M and teams have cap space, there will be more competition for him (plus knocking potential retention from 3 seasons down to 2 will make Vancouver more likely to consider it.)
Dec. 6, 2022 at 2:10 p.m.
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Hey to be fair, I never compared him to Josh and players like Boeser have a place in hockey just as much as Anderson. Boeser is more of what we wanted Drouin to become, a 50+ point setup winger which at peak value would be worth a 1st + 2nd + good prospect right now given that he is on an almost ppg pace, signed for 3 more years and at less than 7 mil (think 2014-15 Voracek value).


Yeah the Josh Anderson stuff still triggers a whole lotta folks that think they know the market better than the insiders like Frank Seravalli and Lebrun (despite both being correct most of the time such as the Lehkonen, Kulak and Chairot trades, for example) theres a certain poster even in this thread that follows me around everywhere and in all my ACGMs despite, myself, never going in his threads. Poor guy, he will never get over that Anderson dude. I can simply bring up the name Anderson and that poster appears like clockwork, much like the boogeyman because I did an ACGM to the Isles with a 1st round pick return. This triggers him to this day YET they got Romanov instead of Anderson which wasnt exactly far off.
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