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Created by: habitantlecolon
Team: 2022-23 Montreal Canadiens
Initial Creation Date: Dec. 7, 2022
Published: Dec. 7, 2022
Salary Cap Mode: Basic
Description
Drouin is done for the reminder of the season !
Trades
1.
MTL
  1. Hollowell, Mac
  2. 2023 1st round pick (TOR)
2.
MTL
  1. Faksa, Radek
  2. Khudobin, Anton
  3. 2024 2nd round pick (DAL)
3.
MTL
  1. Lucic, Milan
  2. 2025 1st round pick (FLA)
Additional Details:
CGY goes after Boeser and need cap space, so habs offer to take Lucic for a 2025/26 1st per ruling of Panthers
CGY
4.
MTL
  1. Zacha, Pavel
Additional Details:
Lucic goes back to Boston
BOS
  1. Lucic, Milan ($2,625,000 retained)
  2. Ylönen, Jesse
  3. 2023 4th round pick (VGK)
5.
EDM
  1. Anderson, Josh ($1,250,000 retained)
Additional Details:
Big body with speed paid as a 3rd line for the next 5 years so cap controlled.
6.
MTL
  1. Sissons, Colton
  2. 2023 3rd round pick (SJS)
NSH
  1. Evans, Jake
  2. Janmark, Mattias ($625,000 retained)
Buyouts
Retained Salary Transactions
DraftRound 1Round 2Round 3Round 4Round 5Round 6Round 7
2023
Logo of the MTL
Logo of the FLA
Logo of the TOR
Logo of the MTL
Logo of the MTL
Logo of the SJS
Logo of the MTL
Logo of the PIT
Logo of the MTL
Logo of the CGY
Logo of the MTL
Logo of the MTL
2024
Logo of the MTL
Logo of the COL
Logo of the DAL
Logo of the EDM
Logo of the MTL
Logo of the MTL
Logo of the MTL
Logo of the MTL
Logo of the MTL
Logo of the EDM
2025
Logo of the MTL
Logo of the CGY
Logo of the FLA
Logo of the MTL
Logo of the MTL
Logo of the MTL
Logo of the MTL
Logo of the MTL
Logo of the MTL
ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES TooltipBONUSESCAP SPACE
23$81,367,500$72,525,475$1,132,500$5,990,000$8,842,025
Left WingCentreRight Wing
Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
$880,833$880,833 (Performance Bonus$850,000$850K)
LW, RW
UFA - 1
Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
$7,875,000$7,875,000
C
UFA - 8
Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
$3,362,500$3,362,500
C, RW
RFA - 4
Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
$950,000$950,000 (Performance Bonus$3,500,000$4M)
RW, LW
RFA - 3
Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
$6,375,000$6,375,000
C, LW, RW
M-NTC
UFA - 1
Logo of the Edmonton Oilers
$925,000$925,000 (Performance Bonus$500,000$500K)
LW, C
RFA - 2
Logo of the Boston Bruins
$3,500,000$3,500,000
C, LW
UFA - 1
Logo of the Nashville Predators
$2,857,143$2,857,143
C, RW
UFA - 4
Logo of the Edmonton Oilers
$3,000,000$3,000,000
RW
UFA - 1
Logo of the Dallas Stars
$3,250,000$3,250,000
C, LW
M-NTC
UFA - 3
Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
$3,400,000$3,400,000
RW, LW
UFA - 3
Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
$2,500,000$2,500,000
RW, LW
M-NTC
UFA - 1
Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
$3,500,000$3,500,000
RD
UFA - 3
Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
$2,875,000$2,875,000
G
UFA - 1
Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
$875,000$875,000
LD/RD
M-NTC
UFA - 2
Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
$766,667$766,667
RD
UFA - 3
Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
$1,000,000$1,000,000
G
UFA - 2
Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
$863,333$863,333 (Performance Bonus$420,000$420K)
LD/RD
RFA - 3
Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
$925,000$925,000 (Performance Bonus$212,500$212K)
RD
RFA - 2
Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
$828,333$828,333
LD/RD
RFA - 2
ScratchesInjured Reserve (IR)Long Term IR (LTIR)
Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
$750,000$750,000
RD
UFA - 1
Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
$4,500,000$4,500,000
LW
UFA - 2
Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
$10,500,000$10,500,000
G
NMC
UFA - 4
Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
$842,500$842,500 (Performance Bonus$507,500$508K)
LD/RD
RFA - 1
Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
$6,500,000$6,500,000
RW, LW
M-NTC, NMC
UFA - 5
Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
$3,400,000$3,400,000
LW, RW
UFA - 1
Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
$750,000$750,000
LW, RW
UFA - 1
Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
$5,500,000$5,500,000
LW, RW
M-NTC
UFA - 1
Taxi Squad
Logo of the Dallas Stars
$3,333,333$3,333,333 ($2,208,333$2M$2,208,333$2M)
G
UFA - 1

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Dec. 7, 2022 at 5:49 a.m.
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Calgary declines easily. It doesn't cost a 1st to dump Lucic at this point in the season
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Dec. 7, 2022 at 5:51 a.m.
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Quoting: Ledge_And_Dairy
Calgary declines easily. It doesn't cost a 1st to dump Lucic at this point in the season


it's a 2025 1st, it far with a tone of ruling that could make it a 2026 1st. I guess it's not that bad, and if you want to move quick this can help !
Dec. 7, 2022 at 5:58 a.m.
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Oilers decline. That’s dreadful. I wouldn’t even trade Holloway for Anderson. The guys almost producing at the same rate as Puljujarvi.
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Dec. 7, 2022 at 6:06 a.m.
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Quoting: habitantlecolon
it's a 2025 1st, it far with a tone of ruling that could make it a 2026 1st. I guess it's not that bad, and if you want to move quick this can help !


Calgary has loads of TDL cap space, they don't need to dump Lucic
Dec. 7, 2022 at 6:33 a.m.
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Quoting: Ledge_And_Dairy
Calgary has loads of TDL cap space, they don't need to dump Lucic


shredding Lucic now getting boeser and perhaps a great d-man at tdl with that cap would bolster your team for a deep run
Dec. 7, 2022 at 6:39 a.m.
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Oilers decline. That’s dreadful. I wouldn’t even trade Holloway for Anderson. The guys almost producing at the same rate as Puljujarvi.


Kane McDavid Anderson in playoff and call me back ... Points are something space on ice is something else
Dec. 7, 2022 at 7:02 a.m.
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Quoting: habitantlecolon
shredding Lucic now getting boeser and perhaps a great d-man at tdl with that cap would bolster your team for a deep run


We can trade Lucic to Vancouver instead, he might actually waive there
Dec. 7, 2022 at 8:36 a.m.
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Hahaha you can’t seriously think boston would do that.
Dec. 7, 2022 at 8:55 a.m.
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How does this trade benefit Boston?

Zacha is on pace for 54pts this year, playing in the top 6 and likely takes on a bigger role next year if Krejci/Bergeron retire. Prior to even being traded to Boston he lived in the area and was elated when he was traded here. He's like to re-sign with the Bruins and be part of their future for years to come.

Lucic is on pace for 16pts and a shell of what he used to be. If you bought him out and he would sign with Boston for league min, then maybe I'd be interested in him. Ylonen can't crack a MTL line-up that is average at best. He sure as hell isn't crack Boston's line-up anytime soon, so the value to Boston is low. The 4th add no value at all as the odds of that pick becoming an NHL are very low.
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Dec. 7, 2022 at 9:33 a.m.
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Kane McDavid Anderson in playoff and call me back ... Points are something space on ice is something else

Anderson sucks in the regular season, but he produces even less in the playoffs. 14 points in 43 career games is a 4th line rate.

I wouldn't trade Puljujarvi for Anderson 1-for-1 even with that retention. You're miles from reality here.
Dec. 7, 2022 at 9:53 a.m.
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No interest in Lucic. You traded for him you keep him.

You add a 1st and swap Smith for Zacha, sure.
Dec. 7, 2022 at 10:15 a.m.
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Quoting: DefenseFirst
Hahaha you can’t seriously think boston would do that.


Nope but I'm in dire need of a move from my GM so I make Boston fan base move in to have some actions!
Dec. 7, 2022 at 10:17 a.m.
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Anderson sucks in the regular season, but he produces even less in the playoffs. 14 points in 43 career games is a 4th line rate.

I wouldn't trade Puljujarvi for Anderson 1-for-1 even with that retention. You're miles from reality here.


I wonder why Ottawa, Edmonton, Cgy then called for Anderson asking if he was avaible!
Dec. 7, 2022 at 10:20 a.m.
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I wonder why Ottawa, Edmonton, Cgy then called for Anderson asking if he was avaible!

Because that's their job? Holland calls every GM regularly.
Dec. 7, 2022 at 10:27 a.m.
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I wonder why Ottawa, Edmonton, Cgy then called for Anderson asking if he was avaible!


This is something that’s going in habs land far too much.

A phone call doesn’t imply value. Lots of players without value get traded.

Maybe they’re calling to see if MTL would be willing to sweeten the pot - though i find that unlikely.
Maybe they’re calling to see if MTL would be interested in a bad contract swap.
Maybe they’re calling to see if MTL would retain.

We don’t know based off teams being interested what Anderson’s value is.
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Dec. 7, 2022 at 10:44 a.m.
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Oilers decline. That’s dreadful. I wouldn’t even trade Holloway for Anderson. The guys almost producing at the same rate as Puljujarvi.


JAnderson is not playing with 2 of the best players in the league, nor is he on 1st line PP with them, but has more points (not by much, but still). Unsure if he would produce more, worse or equivalent to Pul, but probably worth the risk. I'd say the 1-for-1 aspect would be an improvement.
Dec. 7, 2022 at 11:45 a.m.
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Quoting: Samsquanch14
JAnderson is not playing with 2 of the best players in the league, nor is he on 1st line PP with them, but has more points (not by much, but still). Unsure if he would produce more, worse or equivalent to Pul, but probably worth the risk. I'd say the 1-for-1 aspect would be an improvement.

Anderson v Puljujarvi
28 years old v 24 years old
$5,500,000 v $3,000,000

Here's how they stack up based on this year & last at 5v5. I'm using Rel stats to show how each impacted his team, I.e Edmonton had a +7.53 GF% when Puljujarvi was on the ice:

+0.30 CF% Rel v +6.69
-0.99 SF% Rel v +6.73
-1.79 GF% Rel v +7.53
+0.37 xGF% Rel v +9.40
+1.11 SCF% Rel v +5.99
-2.05 HDCF% Rel v +7.82

Anderson has less of an impact offensively AND defensively than Puljujarvi does. Plus he's older and much more expensive. Even if Montreal offered to retain $2.5M a 1-for-1 trade makes Edmonton worse now and in the long run.
Dec. 7, 2022 at 11:59 a.m.
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Anderson v Puljujarvi
28 years old v 24 years old
$5,500,000 v $3,000,000

Here's how they stack up based on this year & last at 5v5. I'm using Rel stats to show how each impacted his team, I.e Edmonton had a +7.53 GF% when Puljujarvi was on the ice:

+0.30 CF% Rel v +6.69
-0.99 SF% Rel v +6.73
-1.79 GF% Rel v +7.53
+0.37 xGF% Rel v +9.40
+1.11 SCF% Rel v +5.99
-2.05 HDCF% Rel v +7.82

Anderson has less of an impact offensively AND defensively than Puljujarvi does. Plus he's older and much more expensive. Even if Montreal offered to retain $2.5M a 1-for-1 trade makes Edmonton worse now and in the long run.


Last year imploding habs team + this year new d-core ... perspectives guys PERSPECTIVES! Try to put the guy on your roster and tell me how you can project him and with who. Now knowing that 6 clubs called for the last 8 months tell me WHY people are calling him a cap dump, a third liner... What or why GM are seeing something you don't ??
Dec. 7, 2022 at 12:07 p.m.
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Quoting: habitantlecolon
Last year imploding habs team + this year new d-core ... perspectives guys PERSPECTIVES! Try to put the guy on your roster and tell me how you can project him and with who.

The fact that Anderson was on a bad team last year doesn't help his case, as I used Rel numbers. It's EASIER to put up good Rel numbers on a bad team, as you're being compared to your teammates. Puljujarvi is being compared to the likes of McDavid and Draisaitl in the stats above, and still comes out far ahead of Anderson.
 
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