A bust a 1st a 2nd & StL retains nope sorry

Everyone tends to say overpay for rentals but it’s normal every TDL. Will continue. Need to add if retaining imo.

With RS and atleast 5-10 of the 20-22 teams that are competing for a real playoff spot in a position to buy the market isnt going to let Vlad go so cheap.
I think a better prospect or an additional 1st in addition to what you have will be more likely what we see exchanged
Without RS sure this deal works with STL taking less then atleast 1/3 of the 5-10 teams in on Vlad will offer just to avoid RS for 3-4 months... o wait that sound absurd.

While this fit would be incredible really , i think the only way STL RS is for the highest bidder .
After trying to move him for 3 summers and 2 Drafts they arent in a position where they'd forgo profit during their retool.

If a different Prospect other than Kravtsov is needed, than fine.
Nobody is paying 2 First Round Picks for a half year of Tarasenko.

othmann a '23 first and maybe a third and we'll retain 50 percent and pay the third team if necessary

ill take that bet
Ill stipulate they'll be conditioned for sure
But Vlad is one of the most dominate goal scorers the past 10 years and won a cup
You'll be shocked to learn Contenders covet these things and as far as cost goes

Hagel got 2 first round picks and two prospects taken in the 2nd round last year
Just saying Captialism is Supply vs Demand and with 22 teams buying that makes it fun this year
Especially when of those remaining 10 teams out of the playoff picture not buying that only 4 so far are actively selling.
ANA was trying to end its rebuild with the addition of Klingberg to back up Gibson but instead they're gonna get a top pick thanks to injuries piling up.
I doubt they blow it up and sell more then Klingberg and most of the 10 teams out of the playoff are in similar positions.

I just dont see how with whats available that Taresenko gets less then a 2 first round picks.
I mean if STL was open to taking just one they woulda closed the deal last TDL but felt lowballed
The reason they held out is they understand how the TDL works with Supply vs Demand dictating Value

Not event gunna read past the "Hagel got 2 first " because he had multiple years on a very low aav. Tank won't fetch more than Kane especially with your logic, considering Kane has been one of the best players in the league for 15 years and has 3 cups

Hagel had 2 and a half years left on a low Cap 3 year deal...and that's before he becomes an RFA again. Not an expiring Contract. Completely different.

More term, than Yes, probably multiple 1sts. But that's not the case.

Not getting our Top Prospect (ranked as one of the Top 20 in the NHL, overall) for a rental. Especially with his ELC being pivotal to our Cap strapped team next Season.

Hawks accept!

People on here acting like getting Vlad for a rental is as valuable as getting DeBrincat last season lol.

He will likely fetch what Giroux got last season which was a 1st, 3rd, and Tippet (average prospect), so I do not think this is that far off.

I don't think there has been a traded player at the deadline that has fetched what you guys are asking. Multiple first rd picks and prospects.

But giroux is insane at faceoffs and is a center which has more value... so probably less

The Hagel thing has been touched on by a couple of other users here...is there another example of a rental that has got multiple 1sts in recent memory? I don't disagree that he's probably a better option that Kane, but the rental market this year for forwards *should* be pretty swamped.

While I hate to be reminded of it, Martin St Louis was traded to the Rangers for a 1st Rounder and a Conditional Pick that became another 1st Rounder for reaching the Finals.

But that was not only a Conditional pick,but also a year a half of St Louis, ad opposed to an expiring Contract.

And even then (and rightfully so), most frowned upon it.

Yeah, I mean, I don't think you're trade is very far off. I wouldn't go crazy by switching up Othmann and Krav, but maybe someone like Cuylle or Robertson. Even then that's a pretty hefty package for Tank (IMO). He would certainly fill a void for the Rags though...*IF* I was doing it though, I'd be pulling the trigger ASAP...every point is going to be important for them...the difference between 2nd and 6th in that division is bananas.

While that would definitely benefit the Rangers, I don't think it would benefit the Blues.

Not only do they 100% need to know they are out of the Playoff hunt (and in a true position to Sell), but they want the contenders to battle against one another to get the best price (which I still think is closer to mine, as opposed to some of the other deals that were mentioned).

Both of those situations will occur closer to the TDL.

100% agree that it doesn't happen any time soon, but man, I wouldn't want to be the GM sitting on my hands in that division...bad week or two and you're done-fer.

If we're going to expend assets like that, and if St Louis is in fact in sell mode, I have a MUCH better option to look into:
rather than buy a Kane or Tarasenko for a single Cup run (assuming NYR even make the playoffs), while we are "willing" to part with these assets, I'd go a step further- and pay even more-in the interest of bringing in a KNOWN commodity, who is signed beyond this year:

BRING BACK BUCH!!!

While everyone would love that...

A) His production, as well as his sweet contract, would definitely cost both 1sts and Kravtsov. At least...

And B) paying that amount to bring back one of your own players, that you gave away for Blais and a 2nd, is definitely a bad look when it comes to asset management.

On these threads I NEVER advocate moving 1st round picks...let alone 2. But this is the one scenario I would consider what you mention and a bit more. Unfortunately, the bigger consideration here is your point"B"....it would be a HUGE admission of a botched trade. Not so much because of the return (yeah Blais has been underwhelming but part of that is his injury)- but the admission that trading skill for grit is a terrible idea. I'd gain a lot of respect for Drury if he were willing to look in the mirror and own up to this disastrous mind set which led to "scuttling" Buch. Of course, I'm not holding my breath...much more likely for them to continue trying to find ways to justify this trade (like Blais on PP2- PLEASE!!!)