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Created by: HabsFan33
Team: 2023-24 Montreal Canadiens
Initial Creation Date: Dec. 16, 2022
Published: Dec. 16, 2022
Salary Cap Mode: Basic
Description
First two trades happen at the draft and/or offseason prior to 2023-24 season.
Free Agent Signings
RFAYEARSCAP HIT
8$7,850,000
2$800,000
2$850,000
2$1,500,000
3$3,000,000
UFAYEARSCAP HIT
5$4,500,000
Trades
1.
NYI
  1. Armia, Joel
  2. 2023 4th round pick (MTL)
2.
MTL
  1. 2024 7th round pick (BOS)
ARI
  1. Hoffman, Mike ($1,500,000 retained)
  2. Mysak, Jan
  3. 2023 5th round pick (MTL)
3.
MTL
  1. Walker, Sean
  2. 2023 2nd round pick (LAK)
LAK
  1. Edmundson, Joel ($1,750,000 retained)
Additional Details:
deal done at 2023 deadline
4.
MTL
NJD
  1. Montembeault, Samuel
  2. 2023 4th round pick (VGK)
  3. 2024 7th round pick (BOS)
Additional Details:
deal done just after '22-'23 season is finished or at the draft.
Buyouts
Retained Salary Transactions
DraftRound 1Round 2Round 3Round 4Round 5Round 6Round 7
2023
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Logo of the LAK
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Logo of the PIT
Logo of the CGY
Logo of the MTL
Logo of the MTL
2024
Logo of the MTL
Logo of the COL
Logo of the MTL
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Logo of the MTL
Logo of the MTL
Logo of the MTL
Logo of the EDM
2025
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Logo of the CGY
Logo of the MTL
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ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES TooltipBONUSESCAP SPACE
23$83,500,000$75,511,666$1,170,000$3,920,000$7,988,334

Roster

Left WingCentreRight Wing
Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
$7,850,000$7,850,000
LW, RW
UFA - 8
Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
$7,875,000$7,875,000
C
UFA - 7
Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
$3,362,500$3,362,500
C, RW
RFA - 3
Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
$950,000$950,000 (Performance Bonus$3,500,000$4M)
RW, LW
RFA - 2
Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
$4,500,000$4,500,000
C, LW, RW
UFA - 1
Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
$5,500,000$5,500,000
RW, LW
M-NTC
UFA - 4
Logo of the New York Islanders
$4,150,000$4,150,000
RW, LW
UFA - 1
Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
$4,450,000$4,450,000
C
M-NTC
UFA - 2
Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
$6,500,000$6,500,000
RW, LW
M-NTC, NMC
UFA - 4
Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
$1,700,000$1,700,000
C
UFA - 2
Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
$850,000$850,000
RW, LW
RFA - 1
Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
$1,100,000$1,100,000
LW, RW
UFA - 1
Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
$800,000$800,000
LW, RW
UFA - 2
Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
$863,333$863,333 (Performance Bonus$420,000$420K)
LD/RD
RFA - 2
Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
$3,500,000$3,500,000
RD
UFA - 2
$3,000,000$3,000,000
G
UFA - 2
Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
$4,875,000$4,875,000
LD
M-NTC
UFA - 3
Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
$766,667$766,667
RD
UFA - 2
Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
$1,925,000$1,925,000
G
M-NTC
UFA - 2
Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
$828,333$828,333
LD/RD
RFA - 1
Logo of the Los Angeles Kings
$2,650,000$2,650,000
LD/RD
UFA - 1
Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
$1,500,000$1,500,000
LD/RD
RFA - 2
Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
$762,500$762,500
RD
UFA - 1
ScratchesInjured Reserve (IR)Long Term IR (LTIR)
Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
$10,500,000$10,500,000
G
NMC
UFA - 3

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Dec. 16, 2022 at 4:25 p.m.
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The kings and islanders laugh at those offers
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Dec. 16, 2022 at 4:26 p.m.
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The Armia trade doesn’t make sense for the isles imo. He’s a fourth line winger who is severely overpaid, and Beau is at worst an average second line winger.
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Dec. 16, 2022 at 4:29 p.m.
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i would much rather have beau than armia
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Dec. 16, 2022 at 4:30 p.m.
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Quoting: Isles5513
The Armia trade doesn’t make sense for the isles imo. He’s a fourth line winger who is severely overpaid, and Beau is at worst an average second line winger.


An average second line winger who has been a healthy scratch how many games so far this season? Also making $750K more than Armia and has never crack 40 pts in a season. That's not a second line winger imo. Armia could thrive on the third line with Pageau. He's also a great PK player.

Just figured since the rumours have had Beauvillier out of NY since last year, it was worth a shot.
Dec. 16, 2022 at 4:44 p.m.
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An average second line winger who has been a healthy scratch how many games so far this season? Also making $750K more than Armia and has never crack 40 pts in a season. That's not a second line winger imo. Armia could thrive on the third line with Pageau. He's also a great PK player.

Just figured since the rumours have had Beauvillier out of NY since last year, it was worth a shot.


Beauvillier is better than Armia, it’s that simple. Isles aren’t moving Beauvillier to take back a worse player
Dec. 16, 2022 at 4:53 p.m.
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Quoting: HabsFan33
An average second line winger who has been a healthy scratch how many games so far this season? Also making $750K more than Armia and has never crack 40 pts in a season. That's not a second line winger imo. Armia could thrive on the third line with Pageau. He's also a great PK player.

Just figured since the rumours have had Beauvillier out of NY since last year, it was worth a shot.


There haven’t been any substantial rumors about a beau deal. Also he doesn’t produce at a high clip because of the way they deploy him. He isn’t on the first unit Power Play, and he’s been relegated to a puck retrieval role on the Nelson line.

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Beauvillier is better than Armia, it’s that simple. Isles aren’t moving Beauvillier to take back a worse player


What he said.
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Dec. 16, 2022 at 5:04 p.m.
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Fun fact: Beauvillier's and Josh Anderson's productivity stats over the past 3 seasons are effectively identical:

Beauvillier last 3 seasons: 149 games, 32 goals, 41 assists = 73 points
Anderson last 3 seasons: 149 games, 44 goals, 22 assists = 66 points

Beauvillier last season: 75 games, 12 goals, 22 assists = 34 points
Anderson last season: 69 games, 19 goals, 13 assists = 32 points

Beauvillier this season: 27 games, 5 goals, 6 assists = 11 points
Anderson this season: 28 games, 8 goals, 2 assists = 10 points

And, of course, Beauvillier costs 75% of what Anderson costs.

Obvious from the imbalance between Anderson's goals and assists is that the two play an entirely different kind of game, but suggesting that Armia plus an early fourth equals either player is just cuckoo.
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Dec. 16, 2022 at 5:11 p.m.
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The best thing the Devils could do would be to let Blackwood go. Montembeault I dont think has a market. Akira Schmidt in Jersey looks like the real deal.

To get any value on Armia at this point, you need to retain half of his salary. If the Habs retain 1.7M and you can get a 3rd round pick. 1.7M for a contender would be attractive but it wont be the Isles whom look like frauds and got enough 4th liner plugs.

You dont need to pay to drop Hoffman. Keep him around for the tank.

Edmundson probably gets more. Most pundits are in agreement he will land a 1st.
Dec. 16, 2022 at 5:15 p.m.
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Quoting: OldNYIfan
Fun fact: Beauvillier's and Josh Anderson's productivity stats over the past 3 seasons are effectively identical:

Beauvillier last 3 seasons: 149 games, 32 goals, 41 assists = 73 points
Anderson last 3 seasons: 149 games, 44 goals, 22 assists = 66 points

Beauvillier last season: 75 games, 12 goals, 22 assists = 34 points
Anderson last season: 69 games, 19 goals, 13 assists = 32 points

Beauvillier this season: 27 games, 5 goals, 6 assists = 11 points
Anderson this season: 28 games, 8 goals, 2 assists = 10 points

And, of course, Beauvillier costs 75% of what Anderson costs.

Obvious from the imbalance between Anderson's goals and assists is that the two play an entirely different kind of game, but suggesting that Armia plus an early fourth equals either player is just cuckoo.


Armia is seen as 'soft' unlike Josh. That's what plays against his value. Hockey men hate that word.
Dec. 16, 2022 at 5:36 p.m.
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Say it with me now, "We won't be paying to move Hoffman. Not now, not ever."

Gonna have to add more to Armia, he doesn't hold that kind of value.

Edmundson deal is fair imo, I'm sure I'll be told how ignorant I am for that opinion.

Blackwood is a wildcard, I'll leave that one to NJD fans cause I honestly don't know how he's truly valued there.
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Dec. 16, 2022 at 5:41 p.m.
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Quoting: Just_A_Guess


Blackwood is a wildcard, I'll leave that one to NJD fans cause I honestly don't know how he's truly valued there.


I think Blackwood leaving Jersey would be addition by substraction. I dont know how you can trust that goalie when Vanecek/Schmidt have given the Devils goaltending consistency for the first time in years for a playoff push. Goalies hold little value in the best of times. He'd be the type of trade in the same vein as Puljujarvi. Hope and pray for the best.
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Dec. 16, 2022 at 5:43 p.m.
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Quoting: Koskinen_The_Great
I think Blackwood leaving Jersey would be addition by substraction. I dont know how you can trust that goalie when Vanecek/Schmidt have given the Devils goaltending consistency for the first time in years for a playoff push. Goalies hold little value in the best of times. He'd be the type of trade in the same vein as Puljujarvi. Hope and pray for the best.


Personally I'd love to make a move to acquire him if the price is right. Change of scenery to a rebuilding team with little pressure to win right now could really turn him up.
Dec. 16, 2022 at 5:48 p.m.
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Quoting: Just_A_Guess
Personally I'd love to make a move to acquire him if the price is right. Change of scenery to a rebuilding team with little pressure to win right now could really turn him up.


Montembeault has shown a decent improvement from last season after playing with a broken hand all year. I rather they gave him more games especially in rebuilding years. Allen needs more games off. He's been pushed too hard. I dont know how Blackwood would fit especially at that cap hit when they will be trying to have the max cap room at the TDL to be a 3rd party team in trades.
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Dec. 16, 2022 at 5:52 p.m.
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Montembeault has shown a decent improvement from last season after playing with a broken hand all year. I rather they gave him more games especially in rebuilding years. Allen needs more games off. He's been pushed too hard. I dont know how Blackwood would fit especially at that cap hit when they will be trying to have the max cap room at the TDL to be a 3rd party team in trades.


I'm not the biggest fan of Monty, for his salary he's alright but honestly he's not going to be much more than he is now imo. Blackwood, I would think, would be a better option to bet on. Blackwood/Allen tandem during the rebuild is how I would play it. I think it's worth the gamble.

Edit: Then once Allen's contract is up we can go with Blackwood as the sole starter (assuming he works out as such) and have Primeau as the back-up (which is likely his ceiling)
Dec. 16, 2022 at 5:52 p.m.
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Quoting: OldNYIfan
Fun fact: Beauvillier's and Josh Anderson's productivity stats over the past 3 seasons are effectively identical:

Beauvillier last 3 seasons: 149 games, 32 goals, 41 assists = 73 points
Anderson last 3 seasons: 149 games, 44 goals, 22 assists = 66 points

Beauvillier last season: 75 games, 12 goals, 22 assists = 34 points
Anderson last season: 69 games, 19 goals, 13 assists = 32 points

Beauvillier this season: 27 games, 5 goals, 6 assists = 11 points
Anderson this season: 28 games, 8 goals, 2 assists = 10 points

And, of course, Beauvillier costs 75% of what Anderson costs.

Obvious from the imbalance between Anderson's goals and assists is that the two play an entirely different kind of game, but suggesting that Armia plus an early fourth equals either player is just cuckoo.


cook them
Dec. 16, 2022 at 5:58 p.m.
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I'm not the biggest fan of Monty, for his salary he's alright but honestly he's not going to be much more than he is now imo. Blackwood, I would think, would be a better option to bet on. Blackwood/Allen tandem during the rebuild is how I would play it. I think it's worth the gamble.

Edit: Then once Allen's contract is up we can go with Blackwood as the sole starter (assuming he works out as such) and have Primeau as the back-up (which is likely his ceiling)


I simply dont feel like goaltending really needs to be addressed until they are close to competing. Colorado found two starters in b2b in years by trade in Kuemper and Georgiev. Goalies simply dont get you to the top but can push you to the end once you are close!

The Habs should be focused on cap flexibility and development. Their cap situation still isnt great next season. This why I dont think Blackwood makes like a good bet, same goes for Boeser. Even if Blackwood performed well, they couldnt afford him next season in another rebuilding year.
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Dec. 16, 2022 at 6:07 p.m.
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Quoting: Koskinen_The_Great
I simply dont feel like goaltending really needs to be addressed until they are close to competing. Colorado found two starters in b2b in years by trade in Kuemper and Georgiev. Goalies simply dont get you to the top but can push you to the end once you are close!

The Habs should be focused on cap flexibility and development. Their cap situation still isnt great next season. This why I dont think Blackwood makes like a good bet, same goes for Boeser. Even if Blackwood performed well, they couldnt afford him next season in another rebuilding year.


I mean that's totally fair too. We could definitely hope to essentially "buy" a goalie when we're ready since we're still gonna be cap strapped. I just like the idea of have options in net since goalies are so hard to predict. We would definitely need to have a busy rest of season/off season to give us some cap flexibility going into the subsequent years if we were to do any acquiring.

I can see KH using MB's prospects as bait to move contracts (mostly because he has said he won't pay with picks to move contracts). He's a crafty one! But I do agree drafting and development should be our main focus. Never hurts to try and swap some current faces if we can make it work, have the team build chemistry from the ground up while we develop various prospects.

In KH I trust...lol
 
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