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Created by: dannibalcorpse
Team: 2022-23 New York Islanders
Initial Creation Date: Jan. 13, 2023
Published: Jan. 13, 2023
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The Islanders should be getting younger this deadline - at best, they profile as a bubble playoff team. Mortgaging what little future they have to sneak in as the 7th or 8th best team in the East would be a fool's move - so, sorry, Timo Meier isn't walking through that door.

I tried to find trades I haven't seen a bunch around these parts, while giving justifications for them. I think the values are pretty close, but I'm sure y'all will tell me why I'm completely wrong.

Lines are what I would put on the ice, assuming good health for everyone.
Trades
1.
NYI
  1. Dorofeyev, Pavel
  2. 2024 2nd round pick (VGK)
Additional Details:
VALUE: Mayfield should easily command a package equivalent to Josh Manson's last year: a 2nd & a solid prospect. Vegas gives a slightly better prospect than Drew Helleson to make up for the pick getting kicked to next year.
VGK
  1. Mayfield, Scott ($725,000 retained)
Additional Details:
NEED: Zach Whitecloud missed 23 games last year and has already missed 13 this year. The Knights look legit but need cheap, veteran depth - something Mayfield with retention qualifies as.
2.
NYI
  1. Labanc, Kevin
  2. 2023 5th round pick (CBJ)
Additional Details:
Labanc is slightly more productive than Beau, and who knows, maybe he pops off coming home to NY. He's a little older and a little more expensive, which eats some of the surplus value his production brings, but there's still enough for San Jose to need a little incentive. An advantageous pick swap in this year's draft should be fine.
SJS
  1. Beauvillier, Anthony
  2. 2023 4th round pick (NYI)
Additional Details:
NEED: A change of scenery, that's all - Beau has not really developed since putting up 21 goals in his first full NHL season. He obviously just doesn't fit into the Trotz/Lambert style of game. San Jose benefits from a slightly younger player and a slightly lower cap hit.
3.
NYI
  1. Thomas, Akil
  2. 2023 2nd round pick (LAK)
Additional Details:
VALUE: I'd argue that the MAF trade is a solid basis for a Varlamov trade, and Fleury got back a conditional 1st. Instead of that, though, the Kings just send a no-string 2nd and a forward prospect that's most likely blocked at this point - Thomas has a decent pedigree but needs to leapfrog, like, 5 guys to get regular NHL minutes. He'd have a better shot at getting time on an aging squad like the Islanders, so the Kings cash in one of their many young trade chips.
LAK
  1. Varlamov, Semyon ($2,500,000 retained)
Additional Details:
NEED: Pheonix Copley is a nice story, sure, but let's not kid ourselves: that .904 SV% isn't gonna fly in the playoffs. Acquiring Varly (.913) gives LA a solid 1B this year with tons of playoff experience, plus he's a pending UFA so you're not worried about a three-headed goalie next year if Jonathan Quick comes back.
4.
NYI
  1. Fortier, Gabriel
  2. 2023 5th round pick (TBL)
Additional Details:
Fortier's ceiling looks like what Parise is doing for the Isles right now - mostly 3rd/4th line, but can push up the lineup without killing you. Great locker room guy, and again - a younger player that can help you phase out the Martins & Clutterbucks of the world without a ton of pain. Parise's probably worth a 3rd; I think this captures that value more or less.
TBL
  1. Parise, Zach ($375,000 retained)
Additional Details:
NEED: Tampa doesn't necessarily *need* anything at this point, but they always seem to be in on inexpensive depth guys at the deadline. Parise is the type of guy who can play anywhere in the lineup, a real luxury for a contender like Tampa - I don't know if he pushes anyone out of the lineup completely, but he can give guys a night off down the stretch or fill in for an injury without losing much of anything.
Buyouts
Retained Salary Transactions
Buried
DraftRound 1Round 2Round 3Round 4Round 5Round 6Round 7
2023
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2024
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2025
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ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES TooltipBONUSESCAP SPACE
23$82,500,000$78,544,963$245,796$537,500$3,955,037
Left WingCentreRight Wing
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$7,000,000$7,000,000
LW
NTC
UFA - 4
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$7,000,000$7,000,000
C, RW
UFA - 1
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$894,167$894,167 (Performance Bonus$537,500$538K)
RW
RFA - 1
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$4,725,000$4,725,000
RW, LW
UFA - 2
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$6,000,000$6,000,000
C, LW
M-NTC
UFA - 3
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$863,333$863,333
RW
RFA - 2
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$925,000$925,000
LW, RW
RFA - 1
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$5,000,000$5,000,000
C
M-NTC
UFA - 4
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$5,000,000$5,000,000
RW, LW
NTC
UFA - 3
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$791,667$791,667
LW
RFA - 1
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$2,500,000$2,500,000
C
UFA - 5
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$1,750,000$1,750,000
RW
UFA - 2
Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
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$5,750,000$5,750,000
LD
NTC
UFA - 7
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$6,150,000$6,150,000
RD
NTC
UFA - 8
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$4,000,000$4,000,000
G
UFA - 2
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$2,500,000$2,500,000
LD
RFA - 3
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$4,000,000$4,000,000
RD
RFA - 3
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$750,000$750,000
G
UFA - 1
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$825,000$825,000
LD
UFA - 2
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$775,000$775,000
RD
UFA - 3
ScratchesInjured Reserve (IR)Long Term IR (LTIR)
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$5,000,000$5,000,000
RW, LW, C
UFA - 2
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$1,500,000$1,500,000
LW, RW
UFA - 2
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$750,000$750,000
LD
UFA - 1

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Jan. 13, 2023 at 12:45 p.m.
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Isles aren’t going to target Labanc in any deal imo
Jan. 13, 2023 at 12:45 p.m.
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You are asking the Kings to pay a 2nd to waive a goaltender who has gone 12-2 for the season at as close to the league minimum as you can. I don't see that happening.
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Jan. 13, 2023 at 12:55 p.m.
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Sharks would consider pretty good
Jan. 13, 2023 at 12:56 p.m.
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You are asking the Kings to pay a 2nd to waive a goaltender who has gone 12-2 for the season at as close to the league minimum as you can. I don't see that happening.


Yeah, the deal would be completely dependent on what Copley does between now and the deadline. Personally, I hate being a wet blanket, but I just don't see him holding up through the playoffs - that shiny 12-2-0 record is built on the back of a .904 SV%, which just doesn't seem sustainable. Out of every goalie who's played as many games as Copley (14), that .904 ranks 29th in the league. He's been buoyed by the Kings scoring 52 goals in his 14 starts (3.71 GF), compared to 3.23 in their other 31 games. I think the likelihood that he turns back into a pumpkin is looking pretty strong, unfortunately - but I'd love to be proven wrong, cuz he's a great story.
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Jan. 13, 2023 at 1:00 p.m.
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Yeah, the deal would be completely dependent on what Copley does between now and the deadline. Personally, I hate being a wet blanket, but I just don't see him holding up through the playoffs - that shiny 12-2-0 record is built on the back of a .904 SV%, which just doesn't seem sustainable. Out of every goalie who's played as many games as Copley (14), that .904 ranks 29th in the league. He's been buoyed by the Kings scoring 52 goals in his 14 starts (3.71 GF), compared to 3.23 in their other 31 games. I think the likelihood that he turns back into a pumpkin is looking pretty strong, unfortunately - but I'd love to be proven wrong, cuz he's a great story.


It's more likely Quick returns to form than Copley leading the team in the playoffs, Quick has had cold streaks before but he has played 92 playoff games and was solid last year. I think the Kings stay pat at goal at the deadline, they have too much money between quick and petersen to keep adding to that pile.
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Jan. 13, 2023 at 1:11 p.m.
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It's more likely Quick returns to form than Copley leading the team in the playoffs, Quick has had cold streaks before but he has played 92 playoff games and was solid last year. I think the Kings stay pat at goal at the deadline, they have too much money between quick and petersen to keep adding to that pile.


It's tough for me, because what you're saying makes sense, and the Kings have enough youth to be set up well for the next few years...but I also look at the Western Conference this year and see a lot of uncertainty. The Avalanche aren't even in playoff position right now and might take the year off after winning the Cup. Every team that's currently in playoff position has some big red flags - I think LA is in a really strong position to make a run, and if I was Rob Blake I'd be super tempted to cash in some of those young forwards for a veteran or two to close any holes on my roster. Maybe it's not Varly, but I can easily see the Kings being a major player at this year's deadline.
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Jan. 13, 2023 at 1:21 p.m.
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Yeah, the deal would be completely dependent on what Copley does between now and the deadline. Personally, I hate being a wet blanket, but I just don't see him holding up through the playoffs - that shiny 12-2-0 record is built on the back of a .904 SV%, which just doesn't seem sustainable. Out of every goalie who's played as many games as Copley (14), that .904 ranks 29th in the league. He's been buoyed by the Kings scoring 52 goals in his 14 starts (3.71 GF), compared to 3.23 in their other 31 games. I think the likelihood that he turns back into a pumpkin is looking pretty strong, unfortunately - but I'd love to be proven wrong, cuz he's a great story.


TB takes that and wins 3 in 4
Edit not sure how I quoted you my bad
Jan. 13, 2023 at 1:21 p.m.
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It's tough for me, because what you're saying makes sense, and the Kings have enough youth to be set up well for the next few years...but I also look at the Western Conference this year and see a lot of uncertainty. The Avalanche aren't even in playoff position right now and might take the year off after winning the Cup. Every team that's currently in playoff position has some big red flags - I think LA is in a really strong position to make a run, and if I was Rob Blake I'd be super tempted to cash in some of those young forwards for a veteran or two to close any holes on my roster. Maybe it's not Varly, but I can easily see the Kings being a major player at this year's deadline.


We might be, the Kings window opened a bit prematurely last season, but the front office has stayed somewhat conservative when it comes to purchasing short-term assets. But it won't likely be for goaltending it will be for LD. The Kings are scoring at a pretty impressive rate with Kaliyev and Moore not even in the lineup, so they will have an offensive boost coming for the forward group. At goal you want Quick to return to form (or even Petersen) to take the role from Copley, so you have three options there, I would however look for another AHL goalie who did well with the Kings in Troy Grosenick and it would cost them pennies on the dollar, then you have your choice between 4 goalies (but like I said, you are still banking on Quick to regain control).

The blaring weakness is LD, having Sean Durzi play his offside with Matt Roy and the declining play of Edler, short and long-term the Kings need to address finding that left-shot defenseman. But even then the Kings are winning games against tough teams, they don't need to be buyers because win now teams like Calgary or Edmonton are more desperate and willing to pay amounts the Kings don't need to bite at.
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Jan. 13, 2023 at 1:23 p.m.
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Labanc is playing much better than Beauvillier so it makes zero sense to do this just to upgrade a 5th to a 4th.

Maybe if Beau was a UFA, then the Sharks could flip him for more picks, but honestly they'll get a better return from Labanc
Jan. 13, 2023 at 2:58 p.m.
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I think that you're right on value for the Kings trade, but as my knowledgeable colleague @tryger says, the fit isn't as good as you perceive it. I don't see us getting any playoff goalie at the deadline. Like him, I'm hoping for at least one major LhD acquisition -- maybe a dark horse like Jake McCabe or Shayne Gostisbehere, if the front office evaluate one of them as worth it.
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Jan. 20, 2023 at 1:05 p.m.
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Great great great AGM
I read the whole conversation with the Kings fans, I understand both point of view. But LA really need a top 4 LHD, if they do acquire one, it's gonna cost them prime assets. So a top 4 LHD + Varly could be a lot to give for a team who isn't a contender. But again, you pointed out the West have a lot of question mark, so it could be wise to pull the trigger this year. Very interesting
 
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