Knies isnt untouchable per Serivelle

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Created by: Zizzle

Team: 2022-23 St. Louis Blues

Initial Creation Date: Jan. 20, 2023

Published: Jan. 21, 2023

Salary Cap Mode: Basic

Trades

STL

Kerfoot, Alexander
Knies, Matthew [Reserve List]
2023 1st round pick (TOR)

TOR

Mikkola, Niko
O'Reilly, Ryan ($3,500,000 retained)
2023 3rd round pick (STL)

Additional Details:

Knies isnt untouchable per Frank Serivelle

STL

Othmann, Brennan
2023 1st round pick (DAL)

NYR

Tarasenko, Vladimir ($3,500,000 retained)

Retained Salary Transactions

Ryan O'Reilly: $3,500,000 (186.67%)
Vladimir Tarasenko: $3,500,000 (93.33%)

Draft	Round 1	Round 2	Round 3	Round 4	Round 5	Round 6	Round 7
2023
2024
2025

ROSTER

LONG-TERM OUTLOOK

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ROSTER SIZE	SALARY CAP	CAP HIT	OVERAGES	BONUSES	CAP SPACE
23	$82,500,000	$75,500,833	$1,100,000	$332,500	$6,999,167

Left Wing	Centre	Right Wing
Saad, Brandon $4,500,000$4,500,000 LW, RW NTC UFA - 4	Thomas, Robert $2,800,000$2,800,000 C, RW UFA - 1	Kyrou, Jordan $2,800,000$2,800,000 RW UFA - 1
Buchnevich, Pavel $5,800,000$5,800,000 LW, RW, C M-NTC UFA - 3	Schenn, Brayden $6,500,000$6,500,000 C, LW NTC UFA - 6	Neighbours, Jake $835,833$835,833 ($82,500$82K) LW, RW RFA - 3
Othmann, Brennan $894,167$894,167 LW RFA - 4	Barbashev, Ivan $2,250,000$2,250,000 LW, RW UFA - 1	Kerfoot, Alexander $3,500,000$3,500,000 LW, C, RW M-NTC UFA - 1
Toropchenko, Alexey $750,000$750,000 LW, RW RFA - 1	Acciari, Noel $1,250,000$1,250,000 C, RW UFA - 1	Brown, Logan $750,000$750,000 C, LW RFA - 1
Walker, Nathan $750,000$750,000 LW UFA - 1		Pitlick, Tyler $750,000$750,000 RW UFA - 1

Left Defense	Right Defense	Goaltender
Leddy, Nick $4,000,000$4,000,000 LD NTC UFA - 4	Faulk, Justin $6,500,000$6,500,000 RD NTC UFA - 5	Binnington, Jordan $6,000,000$6,000,000 G NTC UFA - 5
Rosén, Calle $762,500$762,500 LD UFA - 2	Parayko, Colton $6,500,000$6,500,000 RD NTC UFA - 8	Greiss, Thomas $1,250,000$1,250,000 ($250,000$250K) G UFA - 1
Krug, Torey $6,500,000$6,500,000 LD NTC UFA - 5	Bortuzzo, Robert $950,000$950,000 RD UFA - 2
Tucker, Tyler $808,333$808,333 LD/RD RFA - 1

Scratches	Injured Reserve (IR)	Long Term IR (LTIR)
		Scandella, Marco $3,275,000$3,275,000 LD M-NTC UFA - 2
		Perunovich, Scott $750,000$750,000 LD RFA - 1

Jan. 21, 2023 at 12:35 a.m.

delneggs

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Easy pass for the Rangers, Othmann is not available, period.

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Jan. 21, 2023 at 12:36 a.m.

Black61

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Quoting: delneggs

Easy pass for the Rangers, Othmann is not available, period.

As a petes season ticket holder he should be hes nothing special

Jan. 21, 2023 at 12:36 a.m.

NV94

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That’s way too much for Oreilly given the years he’s been having. Idk if he’ll even get a first

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Jan. 21, 2023 at 12:38 a.m.

Jimbo1119

Joined: May 2019

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So a 1st round pick plus a former 1st round pick- who since drafted has shown why he was a 1st round pick (and whose ELC is even eligible to slide again) for a rental??

NOT A CHANCE

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Jan. 21, 2023 at 12:38 a.m.

NV94

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Quoting: Black61

As a petes season ticket holder he should be hes nothing special

According to this site every prospect, doesn’t matter how good or bad they are is untouchable.

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Jan. 21, 2023 at 12:38 a.m.

MoSeider53

Future Norris guy

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First off it's Frank Seravalli.

And secondly Kyle Dubas isn't moving Matthew Knies for Ryan O'Reilly.

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Jan. 21, 2023 at 12:39 a.m.

worldwidesensei

Joined: Feb. 2018

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Quoting: NV94

That’s way too much for Oreilly given the years he’s been having. Idk if he’ll even get a first

Yea, Stastny was traded to WPG for a 4th and Dahlstrom, and that was an Oct trade.

Jan. 21, 2023 at 12:40 a.m.

MatthewsFan

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Kyrie Irving doubles down on his flat earth theory, and now wonders if dinosaurs existed. https://t.co/xA83F1jwvV pic.twitter.com/Ol9W9s0R2n
— Complex Sports (@ComplexSports) February 18, 2017

I believe everything I read online too

Jan. 21, 2023 at 12:43 a.m.

Black61

Joined: Sep. 2020

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Quoting: NV94

According to this site every prospect, doesn’t matter how good or bad they are is untouchable.

Its interesting because of covid there is this cohort pf players that the correlation between their talent and where they were picked isnt as strong. The petes for example have stillman who was the devils 1st rounder in 21 as well and while a solid player is definitely not a 1st round talent. We get to watch ottawa a bunch too from being in division and boucher is nowhere remotely close to a 1st round talent.

Othmann it wouldnt shock me if he struggles at higher levels. The talent is there but the drive isnt.

Jan. 21, 2023 at 12:45 a.m.

#10

NV94

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Quoting: MatthewsFan

Kyrie Irving doubles down on his flat earth theory, and now wonders if dinosaurs existed. https://t.co/xA83F1jwvV pic.twitter.com/Ol9W9s0R2n
— Complex Sports (@ComplexSports) February 18, 2017

I believe everything I read online too

To be fair I think Kyrie 100% believes that

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Jan. 21, 2023 at 1:05 a.m.

#11

delneggs

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Quoting: Black61

As a petes season ticket holder he should be hes nothing special

Your opinion, and you're entitled to it, but the fact remains, not available, and especially not for a rental.

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Jan. 21, 2023 at 2:03 a.m.

#12

aadoyle

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Yes for the right deal and this aint it

If Dubas turned down 3.5 years of Hagel and MAF for Knies why would he take 2 rentals both of which are underperforming

If Knies gets traded its for Meier whose an RFA.

Jan. 21, 2023 at 2:05 a.m.

#13

aadoyle

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Quoting: MatthewsFan

Kyrie Irving doubles down on his flat earth theory, and now wonders if dinosaurs existed. https://t.co/xA83F1jwvV pic.twitter.com/Ol9W9s0R2n
— Complex Sports (@ComplexSports) February 18, 2017

I believe everything I read online too

Hes not technically wrong but it wont be for this. It would probs be for someone like Meier or Konecney (aka someone with term) not underperforming rentals

Jan. 21, 2023 at 2:29 a.m.

#14

Zizzle

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Would Toronto have cap space for Meier or Konecny ? People say oh Toronto couldnt re sign O Reilly so he would only be a rental, yet all of a sudden they could do Meier or Konecny that would cost even more money?

Jan. 21, 2023 at 3:07 a.m.

#15

Mediumyeet

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There are never untouchable prospects when jobs are on the line. Dubas and Shanahan have done a great job building Toronto but make no mistake they are feeling the heat in the final year of their deals (final year for dubas at least. I'm not sure about Shanahan)

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