Two 1sts for Nelson from a team that can't even afford him. Somehow Chychrun AND Vejmelka only get two firsts combined though? And one of them is three drafts away lol.

Good to see threads where zero consideration was put in from the other teams perspective.

This is not stronger at all.

Varlamov is not worth a 1st. If you also take back Petersen and retain 50% on Varlamov then maybe, but even then I think the Kings would be hesitant to move a 1st for a rental goalie.

Yeah, that is not quite enough of an offer for both Chych and Veggie but there is no issue with 2025 1st round drafts. I am a prospect nerd and 2025 is going to be a loaded 1st round.

Aside from Mayfield to Edmonton, which seems kind of reasonable, these are all bad. The LA, Arizona and Minnesota trades are all ridiculously tilted in the Isles favor, and while the Anaheim one is ok-ish value wise, why on earth would they want a 38 year old rental in Parise? Or why would the Isles want 30-something Henrique as part of a "rebuild"? The Ducks would probably get a better return if they held Henrique until the offseason or next trade deadline and retained salary to send him to a contender.

-Underpay for Mayfield. He should be worth a 2nd and a prospect; Puljujarvi has moved from "prospect" to "reclamation project' at this point in his career. If the Oilers want to send him for cap purposes, I'll take a swing, but if I was Isles' GM I'm not putting a strong value on him and still demanding a legitimate young prospect from the Oilers for Mayfield.

-Minnesota has cap issue from the Parise/Suter buyouts that kick into a new gear next year. I could imagine them spending two premium assets (more likely to be a pick & a prospect than a pair of 1sts) for Brock but the Islanders would 100% need to offer full retention. It's a rebuild, eat the cash, who cares.

-I can't see LA spending a 1st to upgrade goalie; Pheonix Copley might not be the answer but I'd argue that the Kings are a little ahead of schedule and can figure out the net this summer. They'd take Varly, but the priced would have to be right - I think it would make sense to target one of the forwards that's going to be squeezed out of a spot eventually (Akil Thomas, Sameul F-iltered-emo, Sam Helenius) and a later pick than a 1st, and again: full retention is a must.

-Terrible value for the Coyotes, and terrible fits for the Islanders. Why spend $2.75M on a backup goalie to Sorokin? I assume you're keeping him around, if he's proven he can handle 55-60 games (I believe he has) than spending assets on another #1 goalie like Vejmelka is going to be a bad move. If you trade Varly, bring up Skarek and get him some NHL time to see if he's a feasible backup for '23-24; if not, there are a handful of decent veteran backups you should be able to sign for $2M or less instead of paying starter prices on Vejmelka. Beyond that, this deal would struggle to get Chych, let alone the goalie - one of the 1sts is two years away, Dufour isn't an A-tier prospect, and you're asking Arizona to also take back $4.15M in Beau. As far as the fit being bad for the Isles - they already have Pelech, Pulock, Dobson, & Romanov under contract - if you trade for Chych, one of those 4 dudes is going on the 3rd pair and staying there, probably Romanov. Do you want a guy you spend the 13th overall pick and gave a $2.5M cap hit playing third pair minutes?

-Why is Anaheim gonna do this? Parise is a pending UFA and they're in the lottery - not at all the type of player they would target. Henrique is also about to be a 33-year-old forward - I think he's good, sure, but if you're rebuilding why are you targeting a guy like him, much less giving up a pick, too? Trade Parise for a 3rd + a depth player, skip Henrique, and let someone like Raty or Holmstrom fill in whatever need you saw Henrique filling.

There’s no point here for Anaheim

We could retain 50% and should get a 1st back, we aren’t giving him away for a 3rd and an aged rental Zack Parise

Yeah, we don't have a succession plan in place for Henrique at 1LW, so unless we get a high value piece we can use to replace him, we're not moving him, he is more value on our team than Parise and a third.

I couldn't improve on a word of this (meaning the entire comment, not just the Anaheim part) if I spent more than an hour going through drafts

It just hit me: Shattenkirk!

Not that I think they should trade for Vejmelka, but $2.75MM is not starter money. That's "very good backup" money. Spot on with the rest though.