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Created by: Caufield

Team: 2022-23 Montreal Canadiens

Initial Creation Date: Feb. 3, 2023

Published: Feb. 3, 2023

Salary Cap Mode: Basic

Trades

MTL

Meier, Timo

SJS

Dvorak, Christian
Mesar, Filip
2023 1st round pick (FLA)
2024 2nd round pick (COL)

Additional Details:

14th OA

Buyouts

Karl Alzner: $833,333

Draft	Round 1	Round 2	Round 3	Round 4	Round 5	Round 6	Round 7
2023
2024
2025

ROSTER

LONG-TERM OUTLOOK

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ROSTER SIZE	SALARY CAP	CAP HIT	OVERAGES	BONUSES	CAP SPACE
22	$82,500,000	$74,797,499	$1,132,500	$5,490,000	$7,702,501

Left Wing	Centre	Right Wing
Caufield, Cole $880,833$880,833 ($850,000$850K) LW, RW UFA - 1	Suzuki, Nick $7,875,000$7,875,000 C UFA - 8	Meier, Timo $3,000,000$3,000,000 LW, RW UFA - 1
Harvey-Pinard, Rafaël $825,000$825,000 LW, RW RFA - 1	Dach, Kirby $3,362,500$3,362,500 C, RW RFA - 4	Anderson, Josh $5,500,000$5,500,000 RW, LW M-NTC UFA - 5
Dadonov, Evgeni $2,500,000$2,500,000 RW, LW M-NTC UFA - 1	Monahan, Sean $6,375,000$6,375,000 C, LW, RW M-NTC UFA - 1	Pezzetta, Michael $750,000$750,000 LW, RW UFA - 1
Hoffman, Mike $4,500,000$4,500,000 LW UFA - 2	Drouin, Jonathan $5,500,000$5,500,000 LW, RW M-NTC UFA - 1	Pitlick, Rem $1,100,000$1,100,000 LW, RW UFA - 2

Left Defense	Right Defense	Goaltender
Matheson, Michael $4,875,000$4,875,000 LD M-NTC UFA - 4	Savard, David $3,500,000$3,500,000 RD UFA - 3	Allen, Jake $2,875,000$2,875,000 G UFA - 1
Edmundson, Joel $875,000$875,000 LD/RD M-NTC UFA - 2	Barron, Justin $925,000$925,000 ($212,500$212K) RD RFA - 2	Montembeault, Samuel $1,000,000$1,000,000 G UFA - 2
Harris, Jordan $842,500$842,500 ($507,500$508K) LD/RD RFA - 1	Kovacevic, Johnathan $766,667$766,667 RD UFA - 3
Xhekaj, Arber $828,333$828,333 LD/RD RFA - 2	Wideman, Chris $762,500$762,500 RD UFA - 2

Scratches	Injured Reserve (IR)	Long Term IR (LTIR)
	Gallagher, Brendan $6,500,000$6,500,000 RW, LW M-NTC, NMC UFA - 5	Price, Carey $10,500,000$10,500,000 G NMC UFA - 4
	Armia, Joel $3,400,000$3,400,000 RW, LW UFA - 3	Byron, Paul $3,400,000$3,400,000 LW, RW UFA - 1
	Evans, Jake $1,700,000$1,700,000 C UFA - 3
	Slafkovsky, Juraj $950,000$950,000 ($3,500,000$4M) RW, LW RFA - 3
	Guhle, Kaiden $863,333$863,333 ($420,000$420K) LD/RD RFA - 3

Feb. 3, 2023 at 6:04 p.m.

Hockeypal

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Definitely not enough

Feb. 3, 2023 at 6:05 p.m.

Caufield

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Reinbacher Josi 2.0

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Quoting: Hockeypal

Definitely not enough

I've seen way worse

Feb. 3, 2023 at 6:06 p.m.

pbesner30

Pier-Luc Besner

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Quoting: Caufield

I've seen way worse

It's not because you've seen worse that it makes your trade proposal good

Feb. 3, 2023 at 6:07 p.m.

Caufield

Thread Starter

Reinbacher Josi 2.0

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Quoting: pbesner30

It's not because you've seen worse than it makes your trade proposal good

not saying it is enough either. Just that the value I put is much closer than what you may think...

Feb. 3, 2023 at 6:10 p.m.

pbesner30

Pier-Luc Besner

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Quoting: Caufield

not saying it is enough either. Just that the value I put is much closer than what you may think...

They want: a first, a top prospect (way better than Mesar) and a roster player

Feb. 3, 2023 at 6:26 p.m.

ricochetii

Go Habs Go

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Quoting: pbesner30

They want: a first, a top prospect (way better than Mesar) and a roster player

The 1st being 14th overall IS the top prospect. Arguably better since they get to choose their own player/position.
Mesar then becomes the late 1st which is more likely from any contending team.
Dvorak is the roster player.
This is a 2nd round pick more than the asking price.

Not a trade Montreal should make (we have other priorities than adding a winger), but it's easily in the ballpark if that is indeed the asking price.

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Feb. 3, 2023 at 6:45 p.m.

NHLfan10506

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Just give the MTL pick

Feb. 3, 2023 at 6:46 p.m.

Tbrew

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Dvorak doesn’t make a lot of sense. Grier is looking for a guy to rebuild with, not one on the wrong side of the aging curve
I would shoot for a protected Montreal 1st instead of Florida, given how a smart move by Zito can make this pick just another mid-late 1st

Feb. 3, 2023 at 6:48 p.m.

goodfella

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Should MTL be buyers?

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Feb. 3, 2023 at 6:52 p.m.

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Tbrew

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Quoting: goodfella

Should MTL be buyers?

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Feb. 3, 2023 at 6:58 p.m.

#11

Caufield

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Reinbacher Josi 2.0

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Quoting: goodfella

Should MTL be buyers?

Although it is buying, it is also a guy that can be on the roster for 10+ years

Feb. 3, 2023 at 10:51 p.m.

#12

Blacktown

Torresing

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Quoting: Caufield

I've seen way worse

I think it's on the right track. Maybe add Harris? I like Mesar a lot.

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Feb. 4, 2023 at 3:06 p.m.

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Armchair75

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Quoting: pbesner30

They want: a first, a top prospect (way better than Mesar) and a roster player

Did you not read the guy's trade Proposal? He has a Roster player in Dvorak, A First round pick from Florida, Plus Mesar and a 2nd rd pick. .........So you listed what you think SJ would want. His proposal covered everything you mentioned plus more. Because he is actually giving 2 1st rd picks as Mesar was a 1st rd pick. Lets compare this trade to Horvat, as everyone is saying Sharks will want equal to what Canucks got for Horvat.

Beauvillier(25) Dvorak(27), Point Production been pretty similar over last couple years. Dvorak wins faceoffs and PK's. Isles added a first round pick, this guy added Floridas pick, which could be higher than the Isles pick. Isles added Atu Raty, who was a 2nd round pick, vs Montreal adding Mesar who was a 1st rd pick. PLUS Habs add a 2nd rd pick. I think it is actually a very fair trade. If NOT it is very close. It could be tweaked.

If I am the Habs, IF I can move Edmundson and get a 1st in return, I would use that first to put in a package for Meier instead of the Florida pick.

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