Chicago isn't retaining on Lafferty and McCabe alone likely starts with a 1st heading back to Chicago. Not sure San Jose or Washington accept, Toronto is definitely overpaying for Henrique.

San Jose Does not. 23 1st is a Priority, Knies is as well, then you have to add and Kerfoot and Engvall are not the pieces we want.

The Meier price is going to be interesting. He's got a lot of value, but his contract situation and San Jose's future plans make it clouded. Teams know San Jose doesn't want that $10M QO on their hands, wonder if that makes the price lower.

Seravalli reoprted on the DFO podcast that the return won't be as big as DeBrincat was in the offseason.

Seravalli is an Idiot, teams overpay at the deadline vs off-season, Sharks can always sign the QO and move him 50% retained next season or the offseason. but his value is at an all time high and he has outperformed both Fiala and Debrincat this year. Plus he has the size those two don't have and is just as fast, and on top of that is way better at creating scoring chances where those two depend on help to create scoring chances. Meier is also the top guy available by a significant margin now with Horvat gone already.

I mean the ask is bigger than Cat, as is what's been rumored to already have been offered, so I don't get how people can possibly compare a trade deadline deal to a draft day deal. Especially when Cat should have gotten way more AND Chicago was desperate to re-coup a top ten pick that they traded away to Columbus so they weren't exactly in the driver's seat

Teams overpay at the deadline knowing it's a UFA and there's no need to worry about the player in the offseason. I understand what you're saying, but the uncertainty in Meier's next contract and the salary cap make the move more difficult for sure. Even flipping him at the offseason requires a $10M QO. I like him as a player a ton, I think he's an elite winger and would help many teams, but there's a lot of external factors going into a trade for him that could potentially change the return. Look at how long it's taking the Coyotes to move Chychrun and he's been playing like a top pair defenseman ever since coming back from injury.

THANK YOU!!! Ive been saying that over and over but no one listens.

Ok so you don't QO him. then isn't that the same thing. the other point is Teams have been allowed to discuss contract extension with Meier and his agent so most teams will have a set deal for when he comes over.

Yeah do people understand that you don't HAVE to qualify a player? Like if you want to get him as a rental then don't qualify him and he goes to UFA. Simple as that, you're no longer held to his QO.
But any team that is bidding against a team that CAN afford his QO or an extension will have to pay the highest price. SJ doesn't give a **** if you extend him or not, they're going to take the best offer there is.

Hell don't QO him! the Sharks could then resign him in the offseason and Grier would look like the greatest GM of all time.
Imagine getting a 1st and an A level prospect for renting a player to a team for 3 months, only to add him back with zero assets lost and multiple assets gained.

You pay a premium because he's RFA, lose, can't afford to qualify him, and he walks for nothing. Any team acquiring him will likely have the extension in place. The reality is there's not a lot of teams that can afford to do that, have the assets to pay the premium, and are contending.

23 first for dowd

It takes 1. Buffalo can very easily do that. NJ has quite a bit of money coming off the books (though also have some guys to re-sign) but if they really want to, they can get him extended

congrats on writing the worst post on this forum today

Certainly a no from Anaheim, if we trade Rico it will be for a 1st

Sandin doesn’t have value to us since we already have Zellweger Mintyukov and a whole bunch of other guys who are coming up

Hawks decline big time! A 2026 2nd? Seriously?

Ducks decline. We have no need for another LHD especially with the news of Lacombe signing a contract at the end of the NCCA season. Plus Ducks will likely look for a 1st for Henrique.

Most of the other 30 teams in the league would be able to outbid that offer for Meier. There’s just not nearly enough coming back to San Jose.

If I were the Leafs, I’d target Ryan O’Rielly and someone like Dmitri Kulikov or Nick Seeler. They’re good targets and are reasonably cheaper options for the Leafs who don’t have a ton of things to shop.

Servalli is a hot take artist who tailors his rumours to whatever Canadian radio market show he is on.

Kerfoot is a zero
Engvall is less then Zero
Knies and a 2nd for meier retained not happening

So San Jose can’t get a 1dt for Meier form Toronto but Toronto can sell his rights in the offseason and get a 1st and a good prospect? Gtfoh

Nope hes is right. Dowd is a top 5 4C in the league, and is on a very good contract...it would take a 1st for us to move him this year.

if he's worth a first the caps should be actively trying to trade him.

engvall pfp guy saying "Engvall is less then Zero" is the most shocking thing i've witnessed this week

we're not actively trying to trade him. he is the best 4c in the league signed for a very reasonable contract for one more year. giving him up would create a massive hole on the roster. that is why im not joking when i say it would take a 23 first for the caps to move dowd this year.

All this does is really highlight how bad the Capitals depth is if losing a guy I didn't know existed this morning makes the bottom fall out of the team. If the depth of the team is really that poor maybe sell off this season considering it's a deep draft?

the caps' depth players are not their issue in the slightest. dowd, hathaway, johansson, milano, sheary, gustafsson, tvr are all having incredible years and playing extremely well. the reason they are not firmly in a playoff spot right now is that besides ovechkin all of their top guys have either been hurt (backstrom, wilson, carlson) severely underperforming (kuzy, mantha) or both (oshie). i think they could still end up selling if things dont go well this month. if they do though, they wont move guys like dowd (or milano) that are signed beyond this season. the gap between what they are guaranteed to bring to the caps next year vs. what they could go for at the trade deadline is massive. sheary for example, who i think they will not have the room to re-sign, is an entirely different story and i would definitely move him for a 2nd or 3rd. for dowd though, it would need to take a massive overpayment for it to be worth it for the caps, who at this point in their cycle don't really care about the extra 4th or 5th.

would also just like to hammer home that dowd is incredibly good (a great article about him and hathaway was just written yesterday https://www.japersrink.com/2023/2/8/23590730/go-fourth-and-conquer-a-closer-look-at-the-capitals-potent-fourth-line-dowd-hathaway). has a legitimate case to be the second best defensive center in the league behind bergeron!