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Fair trades and SJ

Created by: RV23
Team: 2022-23 New Jersey Devils
Initial Creation Date: Feb. 19, 2023
Published: Feb. 19, 2023
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Since we’ve learned certain SJ fans just go off their feelings and feelings alone. I feel the need to post this prospect value chart so they can fully understand why certain players are OFF limits:

McKeen's
(includes NHLers)
Hughes #2
Nemec #10
Holtz #15
Eklund #26
Gritsyuk #63

THW mid-season list

Hughes #1
Nemec #5
Eklund #7
Holtz #8
Casey #55
Bordeleau #61
Gritsyuk #79
Foote #89
Mukhamadullin #96

Corey Pronman's U23 list
(includes all U23 in NHL)
Hughes #14
Nemec #40
Eklund #44
Mukhamadullin #68
Holtz #72
Bordeleau #89
Gritsyuk #147

Scott Wheeler

Hughes #2
Nemec #4
Holtz #22
Eklund #23
(Bordeleau, Mukhamadullin, Casey were all in #51-100 mentions)

This will give you select few fans guidance on what is actually a fair deal instead of just crossing your arms, stomping your feet and screaming “I WANT HUGHES” “I WANT NEMEC”. If you don’t wanna do fair business, go kick rocks because we’re done with this BS.
Trades
SJS
  1. Casey, Seamus [Reserve List]
  2. Holtz, Alexander
  3. 2023 1st round pick (NJD)
Buyouts
Recapture Fees
Buried
DraftRound 1Round 2Round 3Round 4Round 5Round 6Round 7
2023
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2024
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2025
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ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES TooltipBONUSESCAP SPACE
23$82,500,000$80,771,625$0$482,500$1,728,375
Left WingCentreRight Wing
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$5,450,000$5,450,000
RW, LW
UFA - 1
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$7,250,000$7,250,000
C
UFA - 5
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$3,000,000$3,000,000
LW, RW
UFA - 1
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$6,000,000$6,000,000
LW, RW
NMC
UFA - 5
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$8,000,000$8,000,000
C
UFA - 8
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$2,000,000$2,000,000
C, LW, RW
UFA - 1
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$4,500,000$4,500,000
LW, RW
UFA - 1
Logo of the New Jersey Devils
$2,375,000$2,375,000
C, LW
UFA - 1
Logo of the New Jersey Devils
$894,167$894,167 (Performance Bonus$400,000$400K)
RW, C
RFA - 2
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$3,200,000$3,200,000
LW
UFA - 1
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$975,000$975,000
C
RFA - 1
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$874,125$874,125
C, LW
RFA - 1
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$750,000$750,000
RW
RFA - 1
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$825,000$825,000
RW
UFA - 1
Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
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$3,166,667$3,166,667
LD
UFA - 1
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$9,000,000$9,000,000
RD
NMC
UFA - 6
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$3,400,000$3,400,000
G
UFA - 3
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$1,125,000$1,125,000
LD
UFA - 1
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$4,400,000$4,400,000
RD
UFA - 5
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$2,800,000$2,800,000
G
UFA - 1
Logo of the New Jersey Devils
$1,100,000$1,100,000
LD/RD, LW
UFA - 2
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$4,166,666$4,166,666
RD
UFA - 1
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$795,000$795,000 (Performance Bonus$82,500$82K)
LD
RFA - 1
ScratchesInjured Reserve (IR)Long Term IR (LTIR)
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$4,125,000$4,125,000
G
UFA - 1

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Feb. 19, 2023 at 2:51 a.m.
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I hope this value charts will trend around deadline, Im very interested to see this from other fanbases.
Feb. 19, 2023 at 3:06 a.m.
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I want Hughes! I want Nemec! I want Jay Pandolfo!
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Feb. 19, 2023 at 3:09 a.m.
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Quoting: MoreHitzSeider
I want Hughes! I want Nemec! I want Jay Pandolfo!


Pando might not move as well as he once did these days! 😂
Feb. 19, 2023 at 3:10 a.m.
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Pando might not move as well as he once did these days! 😂


Ok. I'll settle for kicked in the junk voice Mister Unibrow Bobby Holik.
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Feb. 19, 2023 at 3:11 a.m.
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Ok. I'll settle for kicked in the junk voice Mister Unibrow Bobby Holik.


Ooo that’s a tough one are we talking Devils Holik or Rangers Holik?! Dealbreaker there
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Feb. 19, 2023 at 3:12 a.m.
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Ooo that’s a tough one are we talking Devils Holik or Rangers Holik?! Dealbreaker there


Holik likely weighs about 350 pounds these days.
Feb. 19, 2023 at 3:13 a.m.
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Quoting: MoreHitzSeider
Holik likely weighs about 350 pounds these days.


Owns a chain of Five Guys down the shore. Man’s gotta eat.
Feb. 19, 2023 at 3:20 a.m.
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Owns a chain of Five Guys down the shore. Man’s gotta eat.


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Feb. 19, 2023 at 4:53 a.m.
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Nemec and Hugh’s are 100% off limits and sharks fans should know that, as I do.
any shot Mukh over Casey?
I don’t hate Casey but sharks passed on him 3 times before Jersey took him
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Feb. 19, 2023 at 5:13 a.m.
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Quoting: Rob32sjsharks
Nemec and Hugh’s are 100% off limits and sharks fans should know that, as I do.
any shot Mukh over Casey?
I don’t hate Casey but sharks passed on him 3 times before Jersey took him


You got it, I’d shake your hand and call it a deal! I’m motivated to get this over with
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Feb. 19, 2023 at 5:39 a.m.
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You got it, I’d shake your hand and call it a deal! I’m motivated to get this over with


Me too. though I would be lying if I said I’d be happy. I want to keep Meier.
Feb. 19, 2023 at 5:42 a.m.
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Quoting: Rob32sjsharks
Me too. though I would be lying if I said I’d be happy. I want to keep Meier.


I wholeheartedly understand that, giving away a top player is never something that should be well received. Look what happened when we lost Parise for nothing. Lost a whole decade because of that debacle.
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Feb. 19, 2023 at 6:14 a.m.
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I wholeheartedly understand that, giving away a top player is never something that should be well received. Look what happened when we lost Parise for nothing. Lost a whole decade because of that debacle.


on the flip side imagine the sharks lining up
Meier Hertl Bedard!
obviously that’s an insane long shot
hell I’d be happy with Meier Hertl Smith (will smith RHC)
but Eklund Hertl Holtz doesn’t have that same firepower.
Feb. 19, 2023 at 8:32 a.m.
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It’s a good list you got there.
Reminds me of this one
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Feb. 19, 2023 at 9:21 a.m.
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Quoting: Rob32sjsharks
on the flip side imagine the sharks lining up
Meier Hertl Bedard!
obviously that’s an insane long shot
hell I’d be happy with Meier Hertl Smith (will smith RHC)
but Eklund Hertl Holtz doesn’t have that same firepower.


My personal conspiracy theory is that Gary Bettman will not allow a team other than the Coyotes win Bedard because he refuses to let his Arizona pet project die
Feb. 19, 2023 at 9:33 a.m.
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It's not only Sharks fans, there are a lot of people on this site who don't have the slighest inkling about true deadline trade values who only go by feelings when they are commenting on trade proposals, they must not read any rumoured reports from insiders or remember any previous deadline trades. My favourite comment is "________ declines", no discussion at all, they just announce that you are wrong and they are right haha.

The selling teams fans tend to really go off their rockers overvaluing their players and get amplified more (and a lot of leaf fans are part of the problem here I am well aware haha).

A lot of trolling goes on, and in their comments they announce their demands are right and you are wrong, lol. Feelings are the new facts in today's society unfortunately.
Feb. 19, 2023 at 9:51 a.m.
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Quoting: Rob32sjsharks
Nemec and Hugh’s are 100% off limits and sharks fans should know that, as I do.
any shot Mukh over Casey?
I don’t hate Casey but sharks passed on him 3 times before Jersey took him


Casey clears Mukh easily. If the Sharks passed on Casey that's their problem.
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Feb. 19, 2023 at 12:29 p.m.
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Quoting: Rob32sjsharks
Nemec and Hugh’s are 100% off limits and sharks fans should know that, as I do.
any shot Mukh over Casey?
I don’t hate Casey but sharks passed on him 3 times before Jersey took him


I like casey more than Mukh specifically timeline wise bc I don't see a spot for mukh in the next year or two but Casey's timeline should be more like 3 years
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Feb. 19, 2023 at 1:14 p.m.
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It’s a good list you got there.
Reminds me of this one


Yes obviously it’s the list you put together for us last week, I would love to know where the Canes and Sabres prospects fall into the Pronman, Wheeler, and Mckeen lists. I’d assume it’s not drastically far from what THW put together. Sucks that you gotta have subscriptions to read them.
Feb. 19, 2023 at 1:36 p.m.
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Quoting: pretzelcoatl
Casey clears Mukh easily. If the Sharks passed on Casey that's their problem.


Quoting: dgibb10
I like casey more than Mukh specifically timeline wise bc I don't see a spot for mukh in the next year or two but Casey's timeline should be more like 3 years


I prefer Mukhamadullin






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Feb. 19, 2023 at 1:39 p.m.
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My personal conspiracy theory is that Gary Bettman will not allow a team other than the Coyotes win Bedard because he refuses to let his Arizona pet project die


except I think the best thing for Hockey would be Bedard in a large market like Chicago or Montreal! we will see i guess
Feb. 19, 2023 at 1:42 p.m.
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Quoting: NHLfan10506
I prefer Mukhamadullin








They're both studs but I worry Mukh might end up in a situation where he's ready and there just isn't a spot for him
Feb. 19, 2023 at 1:44 p.m.
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Casey clears Mukh easily. If the Sharks passed on Casey that's their problem.


this comment makes no sense. if you like him more than Mukhamadullin why are you trying to keep mukh and trade Casey?
Feb. 19, 2023 at 1:50 p.m.
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Yes obviously it’s the list you put together for us last week, I would love to know where the Canes and Sabres prospects fall into the Pronman, Wheeler, and Mckeen lists. I’d assume it’s not drastically far from what THW put together. Sucks that you gotta have subscriptions to read them.


Keep in mind, they are all different methodologies and criteria, so hard to compare X on one list vs Y on another.

BUF - Pronman
31. Jack Quinn
47. Jiri Kulich
52. John-Jason Peterka
76. Peyton Krebs
81. Matthew Savoie
141. Noah Ostlund
145. Isak Rosen
151. Devon Levi

BUF - Wheeler
10. Matthew Savoie
26. Jiri Kulich
44. Noah Ostlund
HM. Isak Rosen

BUF - McKeens
11. Jack Quinn
19. Matthew Savoie
22. John-Jason Peterka
34. Devon Levi
47. Noah Ostlund
50. Jiri Kulich
75. Prokhor Poltapov
120. Isak Rosen
127. Ukko-Pekka Luukkonen
145. Ryan Johnson
156. Erik Portillo
185. Alexander Kisakov
244. Josh Bloom
261. Oskari Laaksonen
280. Mats Lindgren

BUF - EP Rinkside
17. Jack Quinn
21. John-Jason Peterka
24. Matthew Savoie
79. Noah Ostlund
83. Jiri Kulich
85. Isak Rosen

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CAR - Pronman
22. Alexander Nikishin
24. Seth Jarvis
116. Scott Morrow

CAR - Wheeler
38. Alexander Nikishin
39. Scott Morrow

CAR - McKeens
71. Pyotr Kochetkov
74. Scott Morrow
97. Jack Drury
130. Alexander Nikishin
136. Ryan Suzuki
143. Gleb Trikozov
176. Alexander Perevalov
181. Ville Koivunen
196. Aleksi Heimosalmi
242. Noel Gunler
249. Vasili Ponomaryov

CAR - EP Rinkside
63. Scott Morrow
64. Gleb Trikozov
69. Ville Koivunen
98. Jack Drury
114. Alexander Nikishin
115. Aleksi Heimosalmi

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NJD - Pronman
14. Luke Hughes
40. Simon Nemec
45. Dawson Mercer
68. Shakir Mukhamadullin
72. Alexander Holtz
137. Nolan Foote
147. Arseni Gritsyuk

NJD - Wheeler
2. Luke Hughes
4. Simon Nemec
22. Alexander Holtz
HM. Shakir Mukhamadullin
HM. Seamus Casey

NJD - McKeens
2. Luke Hughes
10. Simon Nemec
15. Alexander Holtz
63. Arseni Gritsyuk
114. Shakir Mukhamadullin
129. Fabian Zetterlund
148. Reilly Walsh
165. Nolan Foote
174. Nico Daws
177. Seamus Casey
191. Tyce Thompson
217. Kevin Bahl
277. Michael Vukojevic
295. Nikita Okhotiuk

NJD - EP Rinkside
15. Luke Hughes
16. Alexander Holtz
18. Simon Nemec
107. Shakir Mukhamadullin
Feb. 19, 2023 at 1:55 p.m.
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Quoting: Rob32sjsharks
except I think the best thing for Hockey would be Bedard in a large market like Chicago or Montreal! we will see i guess


It’s very much a conspiracy theory on my part.
I would actually love to see Bedard land in California too. SJ or (I’m sorry) Anaheim would really be great places to see a generational guy like him land
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