Quoting: JoeROFLCOPTER
I mean calling this a **** trade for both sides is just overrating Kerfoot, Engvall, and especially Holl.
Kerfoot - Pending UFA, would rather overpay for Walman than resign Kerfoot
Engvall - Sunny is used extensively on PP2/PK2. Provides far more use.
Holl - Blows. Saying that Walman wouldn't do better than Holl just shows you only care about points (which Walman would definitely still do better than, sadly statistics aren't biased in this case)
Robertson - Lower ceiling than Vrana, provides less use when injured than Vrana in AHL.
You're only looking at the trade from Detroit's side.
The Leafs management like Kerfoot, he might have lost some favor but he's still serving a role. Doesn't matter if fans want to dump him to make moves. If the Leafs do dump him it's going to be to add someone of significance, not anyone in this trade.
Engvall can PK too, like I said they are basically the same player.
Holl might suck be he's playing a role that doesn't suite him, it's not like Walman is going to come to the Leafs and do better in Holl's role. Just because he works well in Detroit's system and with players. You need to put stats in context at the end of the day, and there is bias in statistics as well. If you have their player cards though please do share.
Idk where you get that Robertson has a lower ceiling than Vrana, but what I do know is that Robertson is on an ELC and Vrana has an NHL contract, his own fair share of injuries and he missed most of the year do to his mental health. Acquiring him is a much bigger wild card than Robertson.
The only place where you might have a point is Walman (pending ufa as well), but that remains to be seen, but again where are the Leafs going to play him?
It really is a bad trade for both sides and there's no two ways about it.