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Created by: deez
Published: Apr. 25, 2023 at 11:12 p.m.
Salary Cap: $82,500,000
Season Days: 185/185 (100%)
Central Registry Determination: This trade has been rejected because the upper limit has been exceeded by one of the trade parties

Logo of the Calgary FlamesCalgary Flames

OutStatusRetained SalaryEffective Cap HitRosterSPCReserve ListDraft Rd 1Rd 2-3Rd 4-7GPGAPGAASv%
Toffoli, TylerCalgary FlamesNHL-$4,250,000011---0000--
InStatusRetained SalaryEffective Cap HitRosterSPCReserve ListDraft Rd 1Rd 2-3Rd 4-7GPGAPGAASv%
Hagel, BrandonTampa Bay LightningNHL-$1,500,000011---0000--
2024 3rd round pick (Logo of the Tampa Bay LightningTBL)---010------
ChangeCap SpaceRosterSPCReserve ListDraft Rd 1Rd 2-3Rd 4-7GPGAPGAASv%
Initial$250,000183469369
Change$2,750,000000010
Final$3,000,000 (↑)18346937 (↑)9000

Logo of the Tampa Bay LightningTampa Bay Lightning

OutStatusRetained SalaryEffective Cap HitRosterSPCReserve ListDraft Rd 1Rd 2-3Rd 4-7GPGAPGAASv%
Hagel, BrandonTampa Bay LightningNHL-$1,500,000011---0000--
2024 3rd round pick (Logo of the Tampa Bay LightningTBL)---010------
InStatusRetained SalaryEffective Cap HitRosterSPCReserve ListDraft Rd 1Rd 2-3Rd 4-7GPGAPGAASv%
Toffoli, TylerCalgary FlamesNHL-$4,250,000011---0000--
ChangeCap SpaceRosterSPCReserve ListDraft Rd 1Rd 2-3Rd 4-7GPGAPGAASv%
Initial$1,400,0001531681512
Change-$2,750,0000000-10
Final-$1,350,000 (↓)15316814 (↓)12000
Apr. 25, 2023 at 11:23 p.m.
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Toffoli is worth more than that IMO
Apr. 26, 2023 at 8:19 a.m.
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Quoting: Gmonwy
Toffoli is worth more than that IMO


I feel the exact opposite. Hagel is younger, better and cheaper.
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Apr. 26, 2023 at 8:36 a.m.
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I'd do it but the Lightning wouldn't.

Hagel is younger, cheaper, taller and probably better too. The only negative is we'd be losing a right shot (which we need more of) for a left shot.
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Apr. 26, 2023 at 9:34 a.m.
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Quoting: Gmonwy
Toffoli is worth more than that IMO


Not sure about that. I think Calgary would need to add to get Hagel.
Apr. 26, 2023 at 2:20 p.m.
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Hagel scored 4 less goals 5 less assists is 7 years younger an RFA and makes slightly more than 1/3 of what Tofolli does add 2 firsts and TB probably still says F*** No.
Edit: BTW Brandon Hagel was second to Mitch Marner in takeaways this year. This is a joke right?
Apr. 26, 2023 at 2:32 p.m.
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Quoting: Gmonwy
Toffoli is worth more than that IMO


You usually have sound reasoning ,however you are wayyyyyyyyy off on this one. Hagel 24 yo 30-34-64 1.5 mil RFA Tofolli 31YO 34-39-73 4.25 mil You really think TB would add com on now be real.
Apr. 26, 2023 at 2:51 p.m.
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Please please someone explain why TB considers this for more than a millisecond before saying no.
Apr. 26, 2023 at 4:14 p.m.
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Quoting: Dan_the_Man
Please please someone explain why TB considers this for more than a millisecond before saying no.


Hagel played on a line with Point and Kucherov... Toffoli is more polished and would fit nice on the RW if they cant bring back Killorn. Hagel probably looking for term on his next deal that Tampa already has committed to other players and his next contract is going to be inflated because of who he plays with.
Apr. 26, 2023 at 4:20 p.m.
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Hagel played on a line with Point and Kucherov... Toffoli is more polished and would fit nice on the RW if they cant bring back Killorn. Hagel probably looking for term on his next deal that Tampa already has committed to other players and his next contract is going to be inflated because of who he plays with.


According to Allan Walsh escrow will be paid by the first couple weeks into the season. So after next year expect at least a 3-4 million dollar cap raise. Hagel Is 7 years younger better defensively as good offensively has a non-stop motor plays all situations. And is a RFA after next season still . Add 2 firsts maybe TB does that. TB gave up 2firsts a30 goal scorer and a solid 4th liner to get him this is a hysterically insulting offer. So Hagels 20 goal season with Chicago means nothing? Oy vie
Apr. 26, 2023 at 4:44 p.m.
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Quoting: Dan_the_Man
According to Allan Walsh escrow will be paid by the first couple weeks into the season. So after next year expect at least a 3-4 million dollar cap raise. Hagel Is 7 years younger better defensively as good offensively has a non-stop motor plays all situations. And is a RFA after next season still . Add 2 firsts maybe TB does that. TB gave up 2firsts a30 goal scorer and a solid 4th liner to get him this is a hysterically insulting offer. So Hagels 20 goal season with Chicago means nothing? Oy vie


They actually traded two firsts that were two drafts out and two maybe B level prospects who are both tied to the 2018 hockey canada scandal. But that doesnt matter. If they dont have an appetite for Hagel's next contract, Toffoli is a legit player, who was also traded for a 1st, 5th, B prospect, and proven NHL bottom 6 player. Similar returns.
Apr. 26, 2023 at 5:19 p.m.
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They actually traded two firsts that were two drafts out and two maybe B level prospects who are both tied to the 2018 hockey canada scandal. But that doesnt matter. If they dont have an appetite for Hagel's next contract, Toffoli is a legit player, who was also traded for a 1st, 5th, B prospect, and proven NHL bottom 6 player. Similar returns.


Taylor Raddysh scored 20 goals this year so yes a 20 goal scorer . Tofolli is also 7 years older and an UFA after next season while Hagel is an RFA with the cap is going way up so they will have the space to sign him. Easy NO. KEEP TOFOLLI it was Raddysh, Katchouk and 2 firsts
Apr. 30, 2023 at 10:39 a.m.
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This is a steal for the flames. You get BRANDON HAGEL and a 3rd
Apr. 30, 2023 at 10:41 a.m.
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I feel the exact opposite. Hagel is younger, better and cheaper.


Agreed
Apr. 30, 2023 at 7:58 p.m.
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there isnt a universe where this is accepted by TB. should report it tbh. horrible.
 
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