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Created by: CJ1909

Team: 2023-24 Detroit Red Wings

Initial Creation Date: Apr. 27, 2023

Published: Apr. 27, 2023

Salary Cap Mode: Basic

Description

- Wings pick best player available with how this years lotto turns out
- Talbot signing could be any veteran goalie that can provide some more confident starts unlike this year
- Wings take a chance with Granlund to rebuild value as that 3C slot has been another gaping hole which also provides Kasper a much needed year in Grand Rapids so we can hang onto his 3 year ELC
- Myers ($6M), Perron ($4.75M) & vet goalie ($2.5M) come off the books next year + $2-3M cap increase when Seider ($8M increase) @ Raymond's ($5-6M increase) deals hit the books
- Do or die season for Veleno

All in all I think this team can sneak into the playoffs with good goalie play, better defensive play and improved special teams.

Free Agent Signings

RFA		YEARS	CAP HIT
Veleno, Joseph		2	$1,200,000
DeBrincat, Alex		8	$8,000,000

UFA		YEARS	CAP HIT
Acciari, Noel		2	$1,500,000
Talbot, Cam		1	$2,500,000

Trades

DET

Johansen, Ryan

NSH

Fabbri, Robby

DET

Granlund, Mikael
Petry, Jeff
2023 1st round pick (PIT)
2023 3rd round pick (NJD)

Additional Details:

#14 for #18 swap as part of cap moves

PIT

Chiarot, Ben
Zadina, Filip
2023 1st round pick (NYI)
2024 4th round pick (DET)

DET

DeBrincat, Alex [RFA Rights]
Thomson, Lassi

OTT

Kubalik, Dominik
2023 1st round pick (PIT)
2023 2nd round pick (VAN)

Additional Details:

#14 + '23 2nd + (2nd/3rd for Kubs at cheap cap who puts up goals)

DET

Myers, Tyler
2023 3rd round pick (VAN)

VAN

2023 5th round pick (DET)

Buyouts

Justin Abdelkader: $1,055,556

Retained Salary Transactions

Jakub Vrána: $2,625,000 (50%)

Draft	Round 1	Round 2	Round 3	Round 4	Round 5	Round 6	Round 7
2023
2024
2025

ROSTER

LONG-TERM OUTLOOK

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ROSTER SIZE	SALARY CAP	CAP HIT	OVERAGES	BONUSES	CAP SPACE
22	$83,500,000	$72,117,639	$0	$4,740,000	$11,382,361

Left Wing	Centre	Right Wing
Rasmussen, Michael $1,460,000$1,460,000 LW, C UFA - 1	Larkin, Dylan $8,700,000$8,700,000 C NTC UFA - 8	DeBrincat, Alex $8,000,000$8,000,000 LW, RW UFA - 4
Copp, Andrew $5,625,000$5,625,000 C, LW, RW M-NTC UFA - 4	Johansen, Ryan $4,000,000$4,000,000 C, RW UFA - 2	Raymond, Lucas $925,000$925,000 ($2,500,000$2M) RW, LW RFA - 1
Berggren, Jonatan $925,000$925,000 RW, LW RFA - 1	Granlund, Mikael $5,000,000$5,000,000 C, RW UFA - 2	Perron, David $4,750,000$4,750,000 RW, LW M-NTC UFA - 1
Söderblom, Elmer $878,333$878,333 ($57,500$58K) LW, C RFA - 2	Veleno, Joseph $1,200,000$1,200,000 C RFA - 1	Acciari, Noel $1,500,000$1,500,000 C, RW UFA - 3
Hanas, Cross $859,167$859,167 ($57,500$58K) LW RFA - 2

Left Defense	Right Defense	Goaltender
Walman, Jake $3,400,000$3,400,000 LD M-NTC UFA - 3	Seider, Moritz $863,333$863,333 ($850,000$850K) RD RFA - 1	Husso, Ville $4,750,000$4,750,000 G M-NTC UFA - 2
Edvinsson, Simon $894,167$894,167 ($850,000$850K) LD RFA - 3	Petry, Jeff $2,343,750$2,343,750 RD M-NTC, NMC UFA - 2	Talbot, Cam $2,500,000$2,500,000 G UFA - 1
Määttä, Olli $3,000,000$3,000,000 LD UFA - 2	Myers, Tyler $6,000,000$6,000,000 RD M-NTC UFA - 1
	Thomson, Lassi $863,333$863,333 ($425,000$425K) RD RFA - 1

Apr. 27, 2023 at 7:13 p.m.

Jfstompers

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I don't get the Johansen love but I wouldn't move him for Fabbri if I'm Nashville, Fabbri can't stay on the ice. Pittsburgh might do something to clear cap but I doubt it includes taking Chairot back. They'd be better keepimg Grandlund than taking him. Sure Myers , sure debrincat

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Apr. 27, 2023 at 7:22 p.m.

TheFastAndTheFleuryous

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What is up with all the Johansen for Fabbri trades

Apr. 27, 2023 at 7:23 p.m.

CJ1909

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Quoting: Jfstompers

RyJo is a much needed 2C that is solid on draws, plays big, allows Copp to be offensive and his $8M cap doesn't hurt us while

Overall I agree about Granlund, but lots of PITT fan despise the Granlund move. I just don't think he fits their system, but under a coaching change it might be better for them. I feel them getting ride of the $11.25M in cap while only taking on Chairot who is more than serviceable and gets a bad rep would be a better Dman in the PITT system that plays more similar to MTL or WPG where he had success.

Apr. 27, 2023 at 7:25 p.m.

CJ1909

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Quoting: TheFastAndTheFleuryous

What is up with all the Johansen for Fabbri trades

It seems like the Preds want to move RyJo to let the younger Cs in their system develop and Fabbri can provide some scoring punch on the wing with veteran presence for a decent cap him (half of RyJo). And if Fabbri can't get on the ice at least they have $8M free now.

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Apr. 27, 2023 at 7:33 p.m.

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I think the Pens have better options. Even though he's overpriced, Petry is still a legit 2nd pairing defenseman. Ben Chairot tanked Seider so hard when they were paired together that I don't trust him on my blueline period. I don't think Zadina for Granlund makes up that difference, and Granlund's buyout is pretty reasonable.
I get the idea behind the trade, and it's an interesting one to consider. Yeah, it's more cap space to build a better supporting cast, but IMO the downgrade to our already poor defense is significant enough to counteract that.

Apr. 27, 2023 at 7:33 p.m.

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I actually dont want Chiarot.. rather keep Petry, buyout Granlund and keep the higher pick.

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Apr. 27, 2023 at 7:53 p.m.

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Preds do it

Apr. 27, 2023 at 8:00 p.m.

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Quoting: Marcsnack

I actually dont want Chiarot.. rather keep Petry, buyout Granlund and keep the higher pick.

How do you feel about a #14 and Granlund for #18 and Zadina trade. I don't know how I feel about it yet but it just popped in my brain.

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Apr. 27, 2023 at 8:01 p.m.

Jfstompers

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Quoting: CJ1909

If I had to have Chairot making 4.7 for 3 more years or Granlund for 2 at 5 it's not a choice. I. Keeping Granlund and playing him in the middle 6 where he is actually an asset. Chairot isn't good.

Apr. 27, 2023 at 8:07 p.m.

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CowanDeBrabarian

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I mean, I think it's a reasonable offer for Myers compared to most people on this site. I just wonder if VAN doesn't pay his bonus and try to get away without having to pay to get rid of him. When you consider there's no retention, its probably worth trading down from a 3rd to 5th to shed 6 mil.

Apr. 27, 2023 at 8:33 p.m.

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Quoting: Haymaker26

To be fair, Chiarot and Seider were a bad idea. Seider did pretty good last year with Oesterle. Seider did unbelievably well with Walman. Turns out, seider is a puck carrier but he can't do it when his partner can't keep up to give him an outlet. Yzerman is drafting guys who can skate for a reason.

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Apr. 27, 2023 at 8:55 p.m.

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Wings pass on everything, this is terrible

Apr. 27, 2023 at 9:04 p.m.

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CJ1909

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Quoting: buffbry

Wings pass on everything, this is terrible

What would you do?

Apr. 27, 2023 at 9:07 p.m.

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Quoting: tonyhzs

Completely agree and that is why I think Chiarot was put in such bad light. He was a terrible match for Seider. Seider needs to play at pace not that slow and rugged old style that Chiarot excels at. I feel like Chiarot is due for a bounce-back year, but the roster just doesn't make sense with him and Maata.

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Apr. 27, 2023 at 9:44 p.m.

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Quoting: CJ1909

What would you do?

Not anything here except the ryjo trade

Apr. 27, 2023 at 9:57 p.m.

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Quoting: tonyhzs

Even if that's the case, it's still not the best move for Pittsburgh. It makes the value a little closer, but the Pens already have an issue with keeping up with faster, younger teams. Chiarot wouldn't fix that issue any better than Petry would.

Apr. 27, 2023 at 10:01 p.m.

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Quoting: Haymaker26

100% agree. Kind of the same with Petry in Detroit. Thr trade proposed here really doesn't make a lot of sense for either team.

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Apr. 28, 2023 at 1:20 p.m.

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Quoting: tonyhzs

100% agree. Kind of the same with Petry in Detroit. Thr trade proposed here really doesn't make a lot of sense for either team.

I do believe that a Chiarot/Petry would actually work esp in the playoffs. Their styles match well together and they wouldn't try to skate too much thus getting them out of position as they would play more zone based coverage. We need a good RHD for 1/2 years to get us through the last 2/3 years of the rebuild that can bring solid vet presence and some more leadership for the plethora of prospects we are trying to develop, especially on the D side. Maata would need to be shipped out instead as the left side is now a wasted log jam with multiple years tied up and Simon needs to be playing.

Apr. 28, 2023 at 8:10 p.m.

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Quoting: CJ1909

Maata is fine. Petry and Chiarot would be a disaster. Detroit needs a mobile RD. Maata was good for Hronek because both players relied on outlet passes, and both knew how to cover for the other. Seider and Walman can do that too, but they also love moving the puck themselves because they are awesome skaters. This is what separates good defensemen from great ones. Maata is great at the outlet pass, but he needs another outlet pass D. Maata is better than Chiarot at everything but shooting and toughness, which Detroit lacks. If Maata could figure out fusion with Chiarot, DragonBall Z style, we'd be left with a great defenseman.

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