Flames Blow it up

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Created by: Jwalker5121

Team: 2023-24 Calgary Flames

Initial Creation Date: May 2, 2023

Published: May 2, 2023

Salary Cap Mode: Basic

Description

First Few things
-Marky, Hubby and Nazem aint going anywhere, to big of contracts after last season plus Marky has a full 32 team NTC

Tanev and Zud trade bait for deadline

In lots of the trades I didnt know specific Prospects. So I Just have draft picks. You can sub out any pick for a players drafted in that wound within the last 2 drafts

I focused mainly on acquiring for the 2024 draft and beyond. The new flames management group wont properly take over until close to the draft. This way gives then a full summer to figure out a plan

Hathaway, Lucic, Bunting signed to keep the prospects down. and the fists up to get the fans in the building

Free Agent Signings

RESERVE LIST	YEARS	CAP HIT
Feuk, Lucas	3	$900,000
Beck, Jack	3	$900,000
Huckins, Cole	3	$900,000
Whynot, Cameron	3	$900,000
Bell, Parker	3	$900,000

UFA	YEARS	CAP HIT
Lucic, Milan	1	$1,200,000
Stecher, Troy	1	$2,000,000
Stone, Michael	1	$775,000
Hunt, Dryden	1	$775,000
Phillips, Matthew	1	$900,000
Meloche, Nicolas	1	$900,000
Poolman, Colton	1	$900,000
Aston-Reese, Zach	1	$1,500,000
Rodrigues, Evan	3	$4,500,000
Bunting, Michael	4	$5,000,000
Hathaway, Garnet	2	$2,500,000
Jones, Martin	2	$1,200,000

Trades

CGY

Öhgren, Liam
2024 1st round pick (MIN)
2024 4th round pick (MIN)

MIN

Toffoli, Tyler

Additional Details:

Minnesota needs to go again. Cant waist a limited year of Kaprisov. Toff would have been 2nd of the Wild in scoring last season

CGY

2024 2nd round pick (DET)
2025 2nd round pick (DET)

DET

Mangiapane, Andrew ($1,800,000 retained)

Additional Details:

Detroit needs to take a step next season. It would be a bet on the Breadman rebounding but one that could pay off if he rebuonds

CGY

Olausson, Oskar
2024 1st round pick (COL)
2025 1st round pick (COL)

Additional Details:

Lottery Protected 2025 1st

COL

Lindholm, Elias ($2,000,000 retained)

Additional Details:

The Avs are gonna run it back. Its to early into the window to cal, it quits. But the team is banged up. If Landy misses the start of the season. Lindholm can cover tell he gets back. And if not. you have a guy ay 2C being paid 2.85mil who was a Selke finalist

CGY

2024 3rd round pick (VGK)
2025 3rd round pick (PIT)

PIT

Coleman, Blake

Additional Details:

The Pens love old dudes. Coleman needs a home and has cups. Win/Win

CGY

Niemelä, Topi
2024 3rd round pick (NYI)
2024 4th round pick (TOR)

Additional Details:

2024 4th turns to 2025 3rd if leaf's make Conference finals and backland plays 50% of games

TOR

Backlund, Mikael ($2,500,000 retained)

Additional Details:

Backlund has given enough to this team, He has played the most amount of games for the flames for a player drafted by the team. Let him go cup hunt

CGY

2023 1st round pick (CAR)
2024 1st round pick (CAR)
2024 2nd round pick (CAR)
2025 2nd round pick (CAR)

Additional Details:

Vaakanainen (Former 1st RD)
2022 1st
2 2nds

CAR

Andersson, Rasmus

Additional Details:

Hampus Lindholm to Boston deal for guideline other side is the comparable parts

CGY

2024 1st round pick (NYI)
2024 2nd round pick (NYI)
2025 1st round pick (NYI)
2025 3rd round pick (NYI)

NYI

Hanifin, Noah

Additional Details:

Wanted to trade him to Boston. But they don't have anything.
Again similar trade to the Hampus Lindholm and Andersson trades

CGY

2024 3rd round pick (DET)
2025 3rd round pick (DET)

DET

Vladar, Daniel

CGY

Petersen, Cal
2023 2nd round pick (LAK)
2024 2nd round pick (LAK)

LAK

2023 7th round pick (CGY)

Additional Details:

Pay to move

Retained Salary Transactions

Andrew Mangiapane: $1,800,000 (31.03%)
Elias Lindholm: $2,000,000 (41.24%)
Mikael Backlund: $2,500,000 (46.73%)

Buried

Martin Jones: $50,000 ($1,200,000)

Draft	Round 1	Round 2	Round 3	Round 4	Round 5	Round 6	Round 7
2023
2024
2025

ROSTER

LONG-TERM OUTLOOK

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ROSTER SIZE	SALARY CAP	CAP HIT	OVERAGES	BONUSES	CAP SPACE
25	$83,500,000	$76,525,833	$0	$850,000	$6,974,167

Left Wing	Centre	Right Wing
Huberdeau, Jonathan $10,500,000$10,500,000 LW, RW NMC UFA - 8	Kadri, Nazem $7,000,000$7,000,000 C NMC UFA - 6	Coronato, Matthew $925,000$925,000 ($850,000$850K) RW RFA - 2
Bunting, Michael $5,000,000$5,000,000 LW UFA - 3	Rodrigues, Evan $4,500,000$4,500,000 LW, C UFA - 4	Phillips, Matthew $900,000$900,000 RW, C UFA - 1
Ruzicka, Adam $762,500$762,500 LW, C UFA - 1	Dubé, Dillon $2,300,000$2,300,000 LW, RW, C RFA - 1	Duehr, Walker $825,000$825,000 RW UFA - 2
Pelletier, Jakob $863,333$863,333 LW RFA - 1	Rooney, Kevin $1,300,000$1,300,000 C UFA - 1	Hathaway, Garnet $2,500,000$2,500,000 RW, LW UFA - 2

Left Defense	Right Defense	Goaltender
Weegar, MacKenzie $6,250,000$6,250,000 LD/RD NTC UFA - 8	Stecher, Troy $2,000,000$2,000,000 RD UFA - 1	Markström, Jacob $6,000,000$6,000,000 G NMC UFA - 3
Kylington, Oliver $2,500,000$2,500,000 LD/RD UFA - 1	Tanev, Christopher $1,125,000$1,125,000 RD M-NTC UFA - 1	Petersen, Cal $5,000,000$5,000,000 G M-NTC UFA - 2
Zadorov, Nikita $3,750,000$3,750,000 LD/RD UFA - 1	Stone, Michael $775,000$775,000 RD UFA
Whynot, Cameron $900,000$900,000 LD RFA	Jordan, Cole $900,000$900,000 RD RFA

Scratches	Injured Reserve (IR)	Long Term IR (LTIR)
Meloche, Nicolas $900,000$900,000 RD UFA
Aston-Reese, Zach $1,500,000$1,500,000 LW, RW UFA - 1
Lucic, Milan $1,200,000$1,200,000 LW, RW UFA - 1

May 2, 2023 at 6:43 a.m.

Lightman13

Patient gm

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Ok now this is funny. Just about every deal is swayed to Calgary by a 1st or 2 1sts

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May 2, 2023 at 6:43 a.m.

JuanDamienNebraska

Joined: Jan. 2023

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Hextall is gone. Pens decline.

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May 2, 2023 at 6:48 a.m.

MoreHitzSeider

Seiders on the Storm

Joined: May 2020

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Detroit declines. Why would Colorado pay 2 1sts for rental Lindholm?

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May 2, 2023 at 6:51 a.m.

Jwalker5121

Thread Starter

Kipper99

Joined: Jul. 2021

Posts: 52

Likes: 3

Quoting: Lightman13

Ok now this is funny. Just about every deal is swayed to Calgary by a 1st or 2 1sts

Lindholm, Ras, hanifin, Lindholm and Toffoli are all at least worth 1sts. Ras is elite and has term. Lindholm is the Hampus deal, Lindholm is a Selke finalist retained 50% and the flames traded a 1st to get Toffoli and hes been better sense he arrived

May 2, 2023 at 6:54 a.m.

Jwalker5121

Thread Starter

Kipper99

Joined: Jul. 2021

Posts: 52

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Quoting: MoreHitzSeider

Detroit declines. Why would Colorado pay 2 1sts for rental Lindholm?

Why would Detroit decline? they have the pics and need a backup. 2 firsts for a rental 40% retained Selke finalist. They would be late 1sts. Would need to be a better package then what Vancouver got for Horvat and St.Louis got for O'Rielly

May 2, 2023 at 6:56 a.m.

Jwalker5121

Thread Starter

Kipper99

Joined: Jul. 2021

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Quoting: MoreHitzSeider

Detroit declines. Why would Colorado pay 2 1sts for rental Lindholm?

If you read the desc. it said any of the picks could be swapped with players drafted in that round in the last 2 years. I just dont know every teams prospect pools well enough

May 2, 2023 at 6:58 a.m.

MoreHitzSeider

Seiders on the Storm

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Quoting: Jwalker5121

Because we're already paying a 40 point player over 5.5 mil AAV. His name is Andrew Copp.

May 2, 2023 at 7:00 a.m.

MoreHitzSeider

Seiders on the Storm

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Edited May 2, 2023 at 7:09 a.m.

Quoting: Jwalker5121

If you read the desc. it said any of the picks could be swapped with players drafted in that round in the last 2 years. I just dont know every teams prospect pools well enough

Lindholm is still a rental. You'll get one 1st. Not 2 1sts or the equivalent of one (prospect). You're greedy and unrealistic. Vladar will get a 3rd. Not 2 of them. Why would any team pay that for a goalie when they can sign a UFA goalie? Is Vladar any better than Aidan Hill?

May 2, 2023 at 7:34 a.m.

MNBassman

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(No comment!!)

May 2, 2023 at 7:44 a.m.

#10

Ledge_And_Dairy

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Flames get fleeced in the Mangiapane and Coleman deals.

Andersson is worth far kore than Lindholm was due to his term

Why would Calgary ever consider trading for Petersen with Wolf being NHL ready?

May 2, 2023 at 8:08 a.m.

#11

ecupirate07

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Canes would be likely to be more interested in that coleman or mangiapane deal than the Andersson one. But the deals are under valued so thats why.

May 2, 2023 at 8:40 a.m.

#12

Xqb15a

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COL isn’t trading 3 1st for one year of Lindholm because they can’t re-sign him.

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May 2, 2023 at 8:54 a.m.

#13

ryanmaher10

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This is beyond laughable, those trade hauls are absurd. Multiple 1sts for Noah Hanifin?!

May 2, 2023 at 9:17 a.m.

#14

MoSeider53

Future Norris guy

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Detroit passes, Only Calgary player we'd remotely have interest in, Would be Elias Lindholm as our 2C. We don't need Andrew Mangiapane.

May 2, 2023 at 9:28 a.m.

#15

dereliicte_campaign

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I agree on the Rasmus, Coleman, Backlund and Mangiapanne valuations, but I think all others are a bit of an overpay.
I suspect the flames move a lindholm and a toffoli, but avoid the complete rebuild.

May 2, 2023 at 10:16 a.m.

#16

TJTwolf

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Avs won't likely be looking to Lindholm (much as he'd be ideal as their 2C) as they can't afford to re-sign him.

May 2, 2023 at 4:33 p.m.

#17

Jwalker5121

Thread Starter

Kipper99

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Quoting: Ledge_And_Dairy

Flames get fleeced in the Mangiapane and Coleman deals.

Andersson is worth far kore than Lindholm was due to his term

Why would Calgary ever consider trading for Petersen with Wolf being NHL ready?

Look at the team ahead of him. it would be stupid for the flames to let wolf get shelled for a year. hide the prospects who havent had a season in the nhl in the ahl. let them win. bring them all up end of season or after trade deadline when you move more parts

May 2, 2023 at 6:56 p.m.

#18

Ledge_And_Dairy

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Quoting: Jwalker5121

B2b AHL goalie of the year. Its literally just wasting his time keeping him down

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