JT Compher is more of a wing than a Center. I like him but man after seeing ROR in that Tampa series and the fact Kampf might (probs) be gone. Having a defensive former Selke guy in ROR might be the better choice especially if hes willing to sign 2-3 years at 4mill

I got a feeling ROR is coming back as man he looked happy. Just build a proper 3rd line around him

Something like

Knies-ROR-Brown or something. Nothing against Acciari but he seems better as a 4th liner

Based on his quotes today, ROR wants to test the Free Agency market. There is no hometown discount in the cards for us. He is going to get paid quite a bit, and I wouldn't be comfortable with shilling out that much money for a guy on the wrong side of 30 that had his season derailed by injuries. Compher has a positive defensive influence, and took 1600 faceoffs this season with an FO% of 48.8. I'll concede that his faceoff stats this season aren't fantastic, but that is something we can work on.

I personally doubt the guys go to a guy like Compher, I think it's likely we see Kampf resigned and Holmberg relied upon in the 4C spot. I thought for sure ROR would want to stick around, but it seems unlikely. That really opens the door for a Kampf return, but I'd like to see a more offensively talented 3C

I think he will test but idk how many teams gonna throw more than 5mill or offer the talent Toronto has. Like u saw him with the big boyz he was happy. Now there is a scenerio he goes back to the Blues or signs with Redwings but I just cant see it but who knows.

Now if he walks than to me you sign a nice reasonable price 3c at around 2.5-3mill (Haula, Suter (Matthews old buddy from Lions), Eller) and than use the remaining money to bring one or two good LW like Bertuzzi, Killorn, Barbashev, etc.

Trades also an option (Maybe u trade away Nylander in a package for another good C)

Like dont get me wrong love Compher but he is also a player that makes me nervous. As if we lose 2 defensive specialists like Kampf and ROR who in the Dzone both were 60% I would want someone like them to come in

My concern with Compher is that he becomes another Kerfoot, but I'd be willing to take the gamble. Suter and Haula are both good shouts as well, I think we should circle in on Suter. Really wanted him before the Wings locked him up

Suter makes sense as a 4C. Good defensively. Kampf replacement

I argue 3c. In Chicago he did well as a 2c. As look at some of the goals that man scored compared to Kampf there is more offense

I would be fine with him as the 3c

No

Someone to watch this offseason Wennberg. SEA gonna probs want to either give Geekie or Wright another shot. So we may see them want to move that 4.5mill out

Shouldnt cost much either

In general going cheaper at the 3c allows for more to go to scoring wings

Like we could do

Bertuzzi-Matthews-Nylander
Knies-JT-Marner
Jarnkrok-Suter-Killorn
Lafferty-Holmberg-Acciari

Rielly-Schenn
McCabe-Brodie
Giordano-Liligren

Woll/Samsonov

Now if ROR is willing to come back scrap some of that and go **** yea welcome aboard but if hes going spend more on some wingers.

Leafs Line up for 2023/24.

Forwards: 14 (11 returning)
XXX - Matthews @ $14M - Nylander @$9.5M
Knies - Tavares - Marner
Jarnkrok - XXX - Robertson
Lafferty - Holmberg @ $1.25M - XXX
Taxi Squad: McMann - Steeves

Defence: 8 (6 returning)
Rielly - XXX
Brodie - McCabe
Liljegrin - Timmins
Taxi Squad: Giordano - XXX

Goal: 2
Murray
Sansonov @$4.5M.

I gave some raises to AM, Willy, Pontus and Sammy.
If my math is right, they need to find 3-F and 2-D. And they have $3M to do it (with the $83.5M cap). That's $600k each (under league minimum.

I think everyone will say to Dump Murray and bring in Woll - to save $4.0M. But 2 things; 1) we have to ship off a draft pick or prospect to do it, 2) that still only gives us $7M for 5 player. $1.4M each doesn't buy you much talent.

Murray apparently might be done. He was sitting on the bench but like Smith u could easily say his head injury isnt safe along with his many LBI's. If not u do the same as u did with Mrazek

I can't believe we are going to get to watch Leafs hockey without Holl and Kerfoot next season. I've waited so long for this day

Pls no more David Kampf also.

We wanted him once, I’d look at him again


He would be my ideal 4C

I want to give Holmberg another shot and bring back Acciari

Lafferty-Holmberg-Acciari

As when he played besides the final 2 games he looked good. Acciari and Lafferty can take faceoffs

Cause there are guys who deserve a shot now and could get it

Yeah I want him gone. Consider this: Cooper will still be Tampa's HC, same with Maurice and Montgomery with their respective teams. With what confidence can any of us here say Keefe going to match these other HCs nevermind outdoing them to put this team in position to be successful?

I have zero confidence in Keefe. If he still HC come preseason, I won't know what to think of Dubas or whoever is in charge.

You haven't explored a Nylander or Marner trade in this scenario but if a shakeup is coming, I don't think trading Nylander shakes things up enough. His salary for this coming season isn't impactful enough to bring in players in at multiple positions which BTW is what I think is needed.

The obvious guy to trade is Marner based on salary alone, the tricky part is to where and for what.

I also want to see Holmberg given a shot but prefer they not continue to stick him with grinders. Most common line mates (ZAR, Anderson, Hunt, Simmonds, Engvall) Don’t bury him on a line with Lafferty and Acciari.

I’d like to see him with Knies and Jarnkrok on a 3rd line.

Just caught up on the entire thread here.

You guys are the best. Fri/Sat we are trading Matthews/Marner/Nylander

Sun/Mon we're promoting Dubas to president. and running it back.

I'm fully on board with the entire core coming back. If trading Tavares was possible I'm sure we'd all be behind that...but we will have to ride him for another 2 seasons.

I took a few days for me to accept the fact that this 5 games series was really on a razors edge. I'm not ready to forgive everyone just yet but I'm also not going to trade our best assets just due to frustration.

Have a look at tampa's track record leading up to their back-to-back cup wins. It was 11 years after taking Stamkos first overall and involved many years missing the playoffs and a couple first round exits.

Hopefully we can get Auston to sign a Mackinnon type contract. Somewhere between 14.5-16% of the cap...even if they go 15% of a future $85m cap that's $12.75. I don't see any reason it needs to be over $13m aav.

Whoever is running the show...it'll be most interesting to me to see what they do in goal. I think I might be behind trying to dump Murray and then trading Sammy's rights...then signing a vet like Raanta at around $2m on a 1-2yr deal to backup Woll...or try and do sammy on a 2yr deal that doesn't handcuff us.

I didn't like Bertuzzi a whole lot at the deadline but he looked good in that first round matchup....if you had him and Knies running the left side...stick with Matthews-Marner / Tavares-Nylander....that's a top 6 with skill and bite.

And hopefully McCabe starting the year with the leafs makes a big difference...I've read a few times how much more difficult it is for a d-man to integrate himself with a new team mid-season..so I'm optimistic this squad can continue to push forward

Lol. But for the record I am not ok with running it back. This is 7 straight years of failure. It would be insane to run back the same core after they’ve proven time and time again they cannot win when it matters most.

I wonder what the logistics of trading for Troy Terry are

ANA probs gonna keep him as they cant rebuild forever. They gonna add Fantilli then go from there. We would probs have to massively overpay for him

I would rather take advantage of another teams cap situation like SEA did with OB where u pay almost nothing for a good player

I can’t think of any reason why Anaheim would trade him for anything the leafs have, except maybe for something like Knies plus for Terry, or Terry plus for Matthews.

I’m in the camp of all 4 can’t be back. It doesn’t ****ing work in the playoffs. They have gone out in the same manner every year, when the going gets tough the core does not produce. It’s just a fact. I feel like we have to stop with all these WSH-TBL comparisons. This is such a different team. They are weak mentally, Paul MacLean “This is where we’ve supposed to be right here. This is where you do it. You can exercise so many fukcin demons and they demons in their heads, they got them in their car, they got’em under their fukcin beds. Everywhere they turn there’s a fukcin demon”. Nylander and Rielly are the only ones who have showed the moments will never be to big for them. It’s beyond debating at this point. Tavares isn’t going anywhere, Matthews isn’t going anywhere, Nylander has proven the lights don’t bother him and performs (plus he adds an elements the other 3 don’t bring) Marner has the cap hit to make significant changes and get the best return. The only reason I am hesitant is he and Matthews are a packaged deal.

Seeing the likes of Bob, Hill, in the Conference finals I’m with you on trading Samsonov for assets and looking at Korpisalo to tandem with Woll.

I really need to hear T.J Brodie come out soon and say he was playing injured otherwise TOR needs to seriously move on from him. They need to get quicker on the backend.

John Tavares is not a Center anymore, they need to move him permanently to LW next season and find a new 2C. And I love Knies but please let’s not put all the pressure on him to be a top 6 fwd next year. TOR needs a legit top 6 winger (I’d love Bertuzzi also).

Finally build a legit 4th line that doesn’t get caved in night after night.

Jarnkrok is a fine piece to have in case of injury to put into the top 6 but not a mainstay. Build a solid 3rd line with him on it.

I’d love to see Dubas President, Pridham GM, Spezza AGM, Mike Vellucci Head Coach

Tyler Bertuzzi would be my #1 UFA target this summer.

He is like Bunting only better offensively and is to me the better rat.

U want someone with that FU element but can also make u pay Bertuzzi's the guy

7 playoff games 5 goals and assists

Like just imagine they bring him and Konecney in. Its very possible to do it even with the big 4. Konecney wont come cheap but we got the assets to make a deal work

It's just the one guy we'd like to move is the one we can't. Matthews shouldn't be an option otherwise we're back to the years when we try and sign Tim Connolly to be a big #1 C. Marner just does too much for us at such a high level that we wouldn't get value back that can replace it.

If you trade Nylander for another top 6 RW, I can get behind that...I don't need it...but I can accept the reality they may look to switch things up a bit..