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Draft Class: 2023
Created By: Went_Wughes
Published: May 13, 2023 at 9:54 a.m.
May 13, 2023 at 10:05 a.m.
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MTL take 100% Smith if available
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May 13, 2023 at 10:13 a.m.
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MTL take 100% Smith if available


Zero chance Smith falls past SJS
Word is CBJ are very interested in Smith
May 13, 2023 at 10:50 a.m.
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MTL take 100% Smith if available


Smith falls because he is a one dimensional turnover machine.
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May 13, 2023 at 11:03 a.m.
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Quoting: Rob32sjsharks
Zero chance Smith falls past SJS
Word is CBJ are very interested in Smith


could you link the source?
May 13, 2023 at 11:04 a.m.
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Quoting: SJSGM
could you link the source?


That smith doesn’t fall or CBJ interest?
May 13, 2023 at 11:20 a.m.
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Quoting: SJSGM
could you link the source?


Benson will 1000% go before Smith.
May 13, 2023 at 11:43 a.m.
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Quoting: Rob32sjsharks
That smith doesn’t fall or CBJ interest?


CBJ interest
saw from Sheng yesterday that CBJ wants a center, so really either Smith or Carlsson. Really hope they want Smith because I'd love Carlsson
May 13, 2023 at 11:45 a.m.
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Benson will 1000% go before Smith.


I would really like SJ to draft Benson if Benson, Fantilli, Carlsson is the top 3. Love his compete and well-roundedness. Do you know why he's dropped for a lot of people though? At the start of the year he was always around #5 and now I've seen some even have him out of the top 10.
May 13, 2023 at 11:52 a.m.
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I would really like SJ to draft Benson if Benson, Fantilli, Carlsson is the top 3. Love his compete and well-roundedness. Do you know why he's dropped for a lot of people though? At the start of the year he was always around #5 and now I've seen some even have him out of the top 10.


They like to create mystery and uncertainty to make the draft more interesting. But Fantilli-Carlsson-Benson is guaronteed unless someone really takes a gamble on Michkov. I'd don't think Michkov gets past AZ. But if he does. He will slide outside the top 10. Where AZ takes him 12th. But I have a feeling Michkov is really being held hostage to stay in the KHL.
May 13, 2023 at 11:56 a.m.
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CBJ interest
saw from Sheng yesterday that CBJ wants a center, so really either Smith or Carlsson. Really hope they want Smith because I'd love Carlsson


Smith can play C/RW and is a RHS. He was the main component of his line making both his wings superior. RHS solid size with a very high ceiling and still has untapped potential. Smith has more offensive upside than Carlsson. Though Carlsson has better size and defensive game I think smith is the better fit!
Imagine a top line in 3-4 years of Cole Eiserman (2nd OA 24 draft) Eklund and Smith!
May 13, 2023 at 12:04 p.m.
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Quoting: Rob32sjsharks
Smith can play C/RW and is a RHS. He was the main component of his line making both his wings superior. RHS solid size with a very high ceiling and still has untapped potential. Smith has more offensive upside than Carlsson. Though Carlsson has better size and defensive game I think smith is the better fit!
Imagine a top line in 3-4 years of Cole Eiserman (2nd OA 24 draft) Eklund and Smith!


I disagrree. Carlsson will be a far superior 200 ft ppg player. I think Leonard & Perreault beasting on the wings really gave Smith more room and time to be overly creative. His game will suffer at the next level as he wont have time and space like he has now, nor will his turnovers be tolerated. Smith is very much a project. Wheras Carlsson will be NHL ready and competitive very soon. My money would be on Carlsson 10 fold, furthermore, Benson is a more efficent more reliable version of what people think Smith is.
May 13, 2023 at 1:19 p.m.
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Quoting: Went_Wughes
I disagrree. Carlsson will be a far superior 200 ft ppg player. I think Leonard & Perreault beasting on the wings really gave Smith more room and time to be overly creative. His game will suffer at the next level as he wont have time and space like he has now, nor will his turnovers be tolerated. Smith is very much a project. Wheras Carlsson will be NHL ready and competitive very soon. My money would be on Carlsson 10 fold, furthermore, Benson is a more efficent more reliable version of what people think Smith is.


I disagree with you on this, Leonard and Perrault are thought of as highly as they are only because of their pairing with Smith, smith drove the play and they benefitted immensely. Carlsson may be a bigger better 200’ guy but offensively he isn’t on the same level.

This all being
Said one of the two is getting drafted #3 and the other #4. And whoever the sharks get is going to be a good to very good player.
May 13, 2023 at 1:25 p.m.
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Quoting: Rob32sjsharks
I disagree with you on this, Leonard and Perrault are thought of as highly as they are only because of their pairing with Smith, smith drove the play and they benefitted immensely. Carlsson may be a bigger better 200’ guy but offensively he isn’t on the same level.

This all being
Said one of the two is getting drafted #3 and the other #4. And whoever the sharks get is going to be a good to very good player.


You will be shocked when Smith falls. People don't understand how elite Leonard is as a PF now how good Perreault is at grinding and puck retrieval. Smith had more turnovers per 60 than any draft eligible player in this class. Plus his pass completion was the lowest. He will drop. His game is inflated and exacerbated by his line mates at PP time. Watch more film.
May 13, 2023 at 1:28 p.m.
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Quoting: Rob32sjsharks
I disagree with you on this, Leonard and Perrault are thought of as highly as they are only because of their pairing with Smith, smith drove the play and they benefitted immensely. Carlsson may be a bigger better 200’ guy but offensively he isn’t on the same level.

This all being
Said one of the two is getting drafted #3 and the other #4. And whoever the sharks get is going to be a good to very good player.


also one last thing, don't too shocked if Moore gets taken before Smith. Anyhow, love the Irbe icon. Peace.
May 13, 2023 at 1:41 p.m.
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I do not want Montreal to take Reinbacher at #5. In my opinion the ceilings for the other possible talent like Michkov/Smith/Benson (P. Kane/Zegras/Gaudreau) far exceeds Reinbacher's ceiling (Ryan McDonagh or Shea Theodore).
Plus next year is loaded with defensemen in the draft and Montreal will not likely be very good next year, so they should get another high pick, which they can use on picks for defence. Just my thoughts.
May 13, 2023 at 2:03 p.m.
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I do not want Montreal to take Reinbacher at #5. In my opinion the ceilings for the other possible talent like Michkov/Smith/Benson (P. Kane/Zegras/Gaudreau) far exceeds Reinbacher's ceiling (Ryan McDonagh or Shea Theodore).
Plus next year is loaded with defensemen in the draft and Montreal will not likely be very good next year, so they should get another high pick, which they can use on picks for defence. Just my thoughts.


P. Kane/Zegras/Gaudreau I think these comparisons are very very exaggerated. Maybe style but if you have these expectations for ceiling you'll be very disappointed.
May 13, 2023 at 2:23 p.m.
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Quoting: Went_Wughes
P. Kane/Zegras/Gaudreau I think these comparisons are very very exaggerated. Maybe style but if you have these expectations for ceiling you'll be very disappointed.


Those are comparisons that I have read on different websites from some "insiders" for what it is worth.
May 13, 2023 at 4:51 p.m.
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also one last thing, don't too shocked if Moore gets taken before Smith. Anyhow, love the Irbe icon. Peace.


Irbe got me into Hockey back when the sharks were brand new! We will see CBJ are very high on Smith so I would not be surprised to see him gone before we draft. I’ve seen a lot of Smith footage and not just the highlight reel lol. I just thing he is special and is only going to get better, all 3 of those guys will be too 6 studs in 3-4 years
May 13, 2023 at 4:52 p.m.
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Benson will 1000% go before Smith.


He should but he won't. Centers are too valuable
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May 13, 2023 at 5:28 p.m.
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He should but he won't. Centers are too valuable


I think he will because he is in fact THAT much better.
May 13, 2023 at 6:17 p.m.
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You'd have to think Montreal trades back before reaching and taking Reinbacher at 5.
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May 13, 2023 at 9:35 p.m.
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Benson will outside top-10
Smith goes in top-3

book it
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May 13, 2023 at 9:56 p.m.
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Benson will outside top-10
Smith goes in top-3

book it


Yasso I'd take Carlsson over Smith.
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I think he will because he is in fact THAT much better.


hmm
 
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