Quoting: Samsoc22
These are bad trades my man, I like a lot of ur opinions but these are terrible for Philly. Massive overpay to CBJ and I don’t think Toronto or Philly are good trade partners because they are in such a different stages that neither can really help the other
With the TOR trade, I didn't want to hear the "You're not getting a 100 point Selke guy for that" crowd, ya know? I think TK Provy retained, and a 1st are the start there. I also feel like Wade Allison is kind of in purgatory on this team. Didn't seem to take to Torts system well, seems to always be injured or a step behind. And seeler, is a good 3rd pairing guy, but nothing we couldn't live without. We also get a solid D prospect and another D man that could also do with a change of scenery and less responsibility. Still, that said, I think maybe i could lose the retained amount or even reduce that 1st to a couple 3rds or a 3rd and the 2nd. If we kept all 1st rounders I think it would be more even. Conversely, TOR isn't trading Marner without getting a 1st I would assume. And also assuming FLA will be good again next year, that pick is a 25-32 pick, so not the worst thing to lose.
The CLB trade I did mention it's prob an overpay, because I'm assuming that Carlsson is a slam dunk home run for CLB and they would really have to be enticed to move the pick. Obv we'd be switching our first to move up, moving hayes clears space, maybe could lower the retention, and if we stick with Hart, Ersson is a little redundant. I know he had a good showing, but his value may never be higher because of how big the question mark is with him. We also have Sandstrom and Feditov (who we hopefully see again in a few years, maybe he can defect ala Mogilny, and we also have that guy Kolosov who by all accounts looks solid. If it's Hart's net for the next 10 years, I would be fine making this trade off. Adding in a 3rd for Bean because i've always liked his game and having him on a third pairing but being able to move him up and down to account for injuries or other things, I think would behoove us to do for cheap.
That's just my thinking though.