Detroit passes, We're not trading back 4 spots with the 17th pick, If anything Yzerman would use that one to move up to 12th or 13th overall perhaps even 11th depending on what Vancouver wants to do.

Detroit would take Moore with 17 before trading it back. I assume he is gone by then though.

Maybe, maybe not. As illustrated by the historical comps, this is well within the ballpark of what we've seen teams do previously, so it's not really the type of trade fans can accurately accept or reject.

Just a hypothetical that fits precedent and adds another angle to the Addison-DET proposals that have been popping up.

Perhaps. This aligns well with comps, so it's more of a thought experiment than a definitive yes/no proposal.

Wouldn't do it. Rather just lose a 2nd.

That's fair. As we've seen in every draft prior, moves up or down are are usually contingent on who's still on board relative to the individual rankings/lists each team has. Which, IMO makes it kinda tough to say one way or the other until we see how the actual draft plays out. But to each their own.

That’s fair, and honestly if I didn’t have several players I hope they draft at 17 hoping they fall I’d be okay with it, since I like to think I started the wave of Addison to Detroit for the early second (and recently added the 4th back if needed).

There are a lot of mocks having Moore to Detroit at 9, that’s why I mentioned he would be grabbed at 17. If Detroit can snag two of Leonard / Moore / Barlow / Wood I would be thrilled.

Even a 2nd is generous for a guy with significant defensive concerns. He is still young and has upside, so I'd be willing to take a flier on a 2nd, but no higher.

Yeah. I mean I think the biggest factor is that I want to move up since there are definitive tiers in this draft that are larger than previous drafts.

Given a few surprise picks, I think there'll be a player or two that'll be no brainers at 17OA and will be better than at 21OA.

Lol well my apologies for not giving you credit for starting the Addison train. I wasn't sure where that idea originated, but I'm not one to copyright so well done there.

Agree on Moore - I noted that in the trade desc. I included him to try and communicate to Wild fans why you'd even entertain this idea to begin with. I mean, it's really not all that compelling from MNs side, so that was the sort of explainer on why you'd even go there. If you're not getting a C you believe in, then the diff between 21 and 17 in this deep draft is hardly worth Addison.

But I hear ya on trying to scope out value picks at 17. I'd be doing the same - that's presumably why MN traded up from 22 to 20 to get Wallstedt. It's just hard to really predict what will happen as fans, so no harm in tossing out ideas on moving up or down.

For sure, but you can very easily argue the inverse of that. Given the depth of the draft, there's potentially a player (or even several) still on board at 21 that your team considers in the same tier as what's available at 17. Without knowing their list and how the draft plays out, it's just too hard to say.

You could have someone that's in your top 7-10 show up at 17, which yeah no brainer. But just as well, you could be looking at a mushy middle of 15-25 that are all ranked similar. In which case, this trade is a no-brainer.

That's why these trades show up every year.

Theres no need to move out 1st to get Addison so I wouldn't

I just enjoy Addy and am fortunate with work to get free wild tickets occasionally. Personally I’d like to see MIN find a Maata to pair him with to teach him the defensive game (Hronek comparable). Faber should able to take that job and run with it.

Not going to lie I was rattled when Detroit traded up and took Cossa instead of Wallstedt. My former player just texted me a bunch of lol and skull faces (he’s from Upsala) and said it was a mistake. He also told me Willander should go top 15 so at least I can have some ammo if he’s wrong.

Personally I hope Danielson (also in trade description) falls to Minnesota or they take a stab at Stenberg.

Danielson at 21 would be great - def think that would be a nice fit for MN.

So Stenberg is interesting, as is the other Frolunda guy Edstrom. I admittedly don't know much about either but Pronman had Eriksson-Ek listed as an Edstrom comp. Who do you have higher between those 2?

Edit: @drmantalban

Personally Stenberg. Captain for u18 team, respected as one of the better leaders and his game seems translatable to the NHL. If I’m honest, I haven’t seen as much of Edstrom, but based on what I know of Swedish leagues, he is capable of scoring goals.

Stenberg higher floor, lower ceiling

Edstrom lower floor, higher ceiling, more likely to be a gamble.

Fair enough. Feel like you're missing some of the nuance here, but not gonna criticize opinions.

Out of curiosity, who are your top 5 preferred choices at 17 (excluding inconceivable choices like Bedard or Fantilli)?

Nice that's super helpful, I appreciate the insight. I've only seen a few twitter clips of each and didn't realize Stenberg was the U18 captain. Good breakdown on each, I'll be interested to see where they each go later next month.

Of course! Due to location and family Minny is the “second team” in our house so its nice to have a team that competes in May

Now if you want JEE for 17….. I’d do that lol

I think we’re overestimating the difference in player that will be around at 21. I would be quite surprised off hand if one of Ritchie/Yager/Edstrom isn’t available then. Moving up to 17 isn’t going to get you a much better prospect than 21 and it’s really a waste of Addison’s asset value.

Lol regarding Ek, hit me up at the 2029 TDL and we can work something out

I completely agree - that's what I was trying to communicate above to some of the others that rejected the proposal.

I wouldnt' necessarily initiate this type of trade myself, but they do happen and I wanted to look at an alternative approach to the Addison-DET trades for the sake of discussion

Edstrom is a super interesting name right now, I don’t think he was on either Button or McKenzie’s list until recently and that’s a hype train that probs doesn’t get past 21 if MN is there.

Question I have with Stenberg is whether he’s done enough to be closer to 20 rather than 30.

Yeah, the only way you’re interested in this from the Wild POV is if the board starts to look like a run on Cs in the late teens.

If the wings are where he goes, this is a deal that waits until DET is on the clock at 17 or before day 2 kicks off.

Well Wallinder is looking like he should go top 15. Cossa stings, but it's not as bad as you may be making it out to be.

Yeah Edstrom is interesting with his frame and production over the last year. Pronman has him at 18 in his latest list, as I'm sure you've seen. He's all over the place with different mocks, though.

I've not seen much of him or Stenberg, so I don't really have an opinion one way or the other.